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March 10, 2009

Geek Alert: New Mobile Site, Assorted Geekery

Yes, I know that href tags aren’t working in the comments. Yes, I know that your comment isn’t visible at the top of “Recent Comments” the moment you post. I don’t know why href tags are getting stripped in the comments (they’re actually getting removed before they even make it into the database - I’m investigating it now). As for why you don’t see your comments immediately at the top of the sidebar, read this comment.

On a positive note, I finally had some time to begin working on a sho’nuff mobile version of Stand Firm. There’s a good bit of window dressing and other niceties to do, but I think it’s a decent start. You can see it here on your iPhone, Blackberry or other web-enabled phones, and there’s even a nifty little icon for those iPhone users who want to bookmark SF on their main screen. I highly recommend it.

THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. I have an iPhone, so I can see what’s not working well on it. If you have an iPhone and you see something that isn’t working, please trust that I’m aware of it and will either fix it or just re-write the manual and call it a feature. No need to email me about it. wink

ON THE OTHER HAND, I could use some feedback from you Blackberry users, so by all means feel free to drop in some comments here about how it looks and behaves. Also, you iPhone users are welcome to leave comments with suggestions for improvements. For example, right now I’m thinking the buttons along the top menu may be too short - they’re a little hard to hit with your finger. Re-did the buttons and made them taller. Much better now.

ALSO NOTE that only 3 of the 4 main buttons are functional - the “More” section is still under development.

Note also that once you leave one of the main panes, you’re taken to the regular site - for example, if you click on a comment or article.

I’m going to have to put a lot more work into a login page that works well on mobile devices, so for now, if you want to log in you have to do it the old-fashioned way: Navigate to the standard home page, tap the login button, and go through the normal login form. After that you should be able to comment.

UPDATE: I’ve created a new article template especially for the mobile version that seems to work pretty well (at least on the iPhone - Blackberry users, are you seeing anything?). What I need is someone with monster Apache and/or JQuery chops to tell me how to redirect all links to /foo/123 to /foo_bar/123

I’m assuming it involves .htaccess and regular expressions, but a JQuery solution would be preferable. Anyone? Bueller?

UPDATE: Blackberry users - see if you can follow the instructions at this page to turn on Javascript and CSS, and tell me if you then see any content at the SF mobile site.

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On a crackberry, the link gives a SF logo on the left with “Traditional Anglicanism in America” on the right.

Then, there are 3 buttons in a row: comments, the week, and features. The next row has the “more” button.

Nothing else on the page. Button text is small, but legible.

Nothing happens in clicking on any of the buttons.

[1] Posted by Ralph on 3-10-2009 at 05:35 PM · [top]

Well that ain’t what I wanted to happen.

[2] Posted by Greg Griffith on 3-10-2009 at 05:40 PM · [top]

I will have to check this out on my husband’s Blackberry.

[3] Posted by The Little Myrmidon on 3-10-2009 at 06:06 PM · [top]

Yes, I know that href tags aren’t working in the comments. Yes, I know that your comment isn’t visible at the top of “Recent Comments” the moment you post. I don’t know why href tags are getting stripped in the comments (they’re actually getting removed before they even make it into the database - I’m investigating it now).

Cheers to you for sanitizing your database inputs. Can’t be too careful, right?

If you haven’t already, you might try peeking at the config.php file. Take a look at the $AllowableHTML and $CensorList arrays and make sure HREF is doing what you want it to do.

…says the man who learned this the hard way. smile

[4] Posted by Athanasian on 3-10-2009 at 07:11 PM · [top]

…says the man who learned this the hard way. smile

Oh yeah, I need to get the smileys working again…

[5] Posted by Greg Griffith on 3-10-2009 at 07:42 PM · [top]

The mobile link is awesome on the iPod-Touch too!!! 


[6] Posted by BabyBlue on 3-10-2009 at 08:20 PM · [top]

Yes, am sending this from the Pod. Way cool, Greg - you rock!


[7] Posted by BabyBlue on 3-10-2009 at 08:25 PM · [top]

Yeah, I just see the Standfirm graphic, and the four boxes (Comment, the week, features, more)  Nothin’ else.

Blackberry curve, OS 4.5 with the Blackberry browser.

[8] Posted by Paul B on 3-11-2009 at 07:06 AM · [top]

BlackBerry users being marginalized by iPhone folks. Accccch. Whatever happened to plain vanilla HTML? (smile)

Going to the regular website, produces the following:
- The large version of the logo (including the “Be on your guard” quote.
- Day and date
- “recent comments” without any recent comments
-“Around the Web” has moved here, and can also be reached by clicking the ‘Blogs’ button in the top menu.

© 2004-2009 Stand Firm, LLC. All rights reserved.
- [23 : 0.0703]
- A Nashotah House banner
- Welcome, Ralph
- The buttons, which are functional
- A line, containing graphics for “the week” and “features”

And, nothing else. Although the buttons work, none of them produces the articles.

[9] Posted by Ralph on 3-11-2009 at 07:19 AM · [top]

Are there instructions somewhere on getting “Smileys” included on postings. I’ve tried several times and ways and it just doesn’t happen for me?
P.S. Greg, What’s an IPhone?
I suppose I have disqualified myself from posting on this thread if I asked the above two questions. (just kidding on Question #2)

[10] Posted by Fr. Dale on 3-11-2009 at 08:11 AM · [top]

I have exactly the same thing as #9 on my Windows Mobile Treo:  just banners and no content and a non-working mobile page.  I’m not completely surprised:  I got hooked on StandFirm because it was one of the few websites I’m actually interested in that I could get readable on the stupid thing, so it is not a shock that slight changes make it unusable with the PDA’s “Internet Explorer” browser.

[11] Posted by RoboDoc on 3-11-2009 at 08:22 AM · [top]

Blackberry users - seems that the Blackberry browser doesn’t support JQuery, which I use to swap content in and out of the screen as you navigate. Let me take a look at some workarounds.

[12] Posted by Greg Griffith on 3-11-2009 at 08:31 AM · [top]

Blackberry users - please see update in main post about enabling Javascript and CSS.

[13] Posted by Greg Griffith on 3-11-2009 at 08:42 AM · [top]

Greg, Blaclberry works with Opera Mini 4.2.

Posting from it now.

[14] Posted by Paul B on 3-11-2009 at 08:58 AM · [top]

I’ve usually kept JavaScript off, because having it on seems to slow down browser performance with a “Running Script” message.

I do have JavaScript enabled now, as well as Support Style Sheets. Neither the traditional site, nor the mobile site is working properly.

HTML Scripture and Tradition instruct us to keep it simple. Revisionists have introduced complexities that obscure the plain, simple message.

[15] Posted by Ralph on 3-11-2009 at 09:05 AM · [top]

Hi, Enabled Javascript and it works, there’s no option for css that I can find, but the Javascript tip did the job on my crackberry bold.  Now I can use it even more…is that good?

[16] Posted by Ann McCarthy on 3-11-2009 at 09:13 AM · [top]

I have Blackberry OS, which is the latest available to t-mobile customers. I gather that 4.6 will work with JQuery.

Doing a system upgrade is utter misery for Mac users. You have to find a PC, do a backup, install the upgrade, and then do an entire brand new Enterprise Activation.

In any case, 4.6 isn’t yet available for the 8320 Curve.

I’ll turn JavaScript back off until we hear further news.

[17] Posted by Ralph on 3-11-2009 at 09:38 AM · [top]

” . . . trust that I’m aware of it and will either fix it or just re-write the manual and call it a feature. No need to email me about it.”

Oh Greg!  That is SO ‘80s!  We did that back when I, the “hardware” tech, was modifying the programs the real programmers wrote!  <span style=“color:#cc0000;”>;>)</span>

I don’t have a mobile device but wish you all of God’s blessing, coding accuracy and speed!

Aggie, Class of ‘70
Blog:  <a > An Anglican Firearms “Enthusiast”</a>

[18] Posted by aggie on 3-11-2009 at 10:07 AM · [top]


Rewriting the manual and calling it a feature is timeless. It will never go out of style!

For Blackberry users -

Javascript support (and thus JQuery support) on the Blackberry varies wildly depending on which browser version you’re using. I’d like to be able to maintain separate versions of the standard and mobile sites, but we just don’t have the time or the manpower. Instead, I’m going to let RIM catch up with the rest of the world in its browser support of web technologies. Javascript and CSS are hardly exotics, and I expect that over the next few months more and more Blackberry users will be able to use them as long as they continue to upgrade their operating systems. (And not to be snarky, but if RIM doesn’t kick it into high gear on web support soon, I suspect more and more BB users will be switching to iPhone).

[19] Posted by Greg Griffith on 3-11-2009 at 10:19 AM · [top]

My Palm T/X (on Wi=Fi) only gets the “welcome” page - with no articles or comments.  Buttons lead to a similarly labeled page - but with no content other than a confirmation that I am logged in.

[20] Posted by AnglicanXn on 3-11-2009 at 10:52 AM · [top]

Fortunately, T19 still works perfectly well with the BlackBerry. As of a few days ago, the standard site version of StandFirm did, as well.

This BB user would rather be using an iPhone (despite Apple’s contributions to the fight against Proposition 8), but the iPhone only works with ATT service. International ATT service is unfortunately extremely expensive, particularly for data. And, the Blackberry Enterprise Server allows people to manage corporate e-mail very efficiently from all over the world. So, no switch for the foreseeable future.

Kudos to Greg for the work he has put into this site. It is not my site, so how it is managed, and its geek factor, are none of my business.

Signing off, Rafe.

[21] Posted by Ralph on 3-11-2009 at 10:53 AM · [top]

#19- That’s it! I’ve had it! I’m junking my Blackberry and going Baby Blue’s route with an iphone. Shorting RIM and buying Apple stock to make up for my early termination fees. Once Wall Street hears about this conflict of Blackberry and StandFirm their stock is going to tank.

[22] Posted by Keith Bramlett on 3-11-2009 at 11:09 AM · [top]

I get the same result as Ralph in #1.  My BB shows my Java is enabled, but I did not see anything about CSS when I followed the instructions on the linked help page for enabling Java and CSS.

[23] Posted by veritas2007 on 3-11-2009 at 12:59 PM · [top]

Instead of “CSS,” look for something to do with “style sheets.”

[24] Posted by Greg Griffith on 3-11-2009 at 01:00 PM · [top]

Ok.  Checked Support Style Sheets.  Still get the same four-button only result.

[25] Posted by veritas2007 on 3-11-2009 at 01:03 PM · [top]

#22-Alright, I was half right.
Shares of Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple jumped $4.05, or 4.6 percent, to $92.68.

[26] Posted by Keith Bramlett on 3-11-2009 at 05:05 PM · [top]

i cannot get to this site on my moto q. it just uses windows mobile 5 and whatever basic version of IE comes with that.

[27] Posted by micahtowery on 3-11-2009 at 08:36 PM · [top]

Greg I’ll add my thanks for what your doing. I’s been reading stand Frirm on my I Phone since I bought the phone but now I can just click the icon on the home page and I’m right there… way cool.

[28] Posted by bob+ on 3-11-2009 at 10:22 PM · [top]

Somewhat off topic, but I’ve not been able to access titusonenine on my computer since the big changeover.  Any ideas?

[29] Posted by evan miller on 3-12-2009 at 09:53 AM · [top]


If you’re running a Windows computer, try clicking Start-Programs-Command Prompt, then entering this command:

ipconfig /flushdns

You can close that window afterwards. If that doesn’t work, try restarting your computer. If that still doesn’t work, send me a private message and we’ll take it from there.

[30] Posted by Greg Griffith on 3-12-2009 at 10:12 AM · [top]

How about doing something for us poor Windows Mobile users?  I am running 6.0 of WinCE and when I select the MOBILE button, the mobile page opens but none of the four tabs (comment, the week, features, and more)do anything.  That is for the Internet Explorer Mobile.

I also have the Opera browser on the device (HTC X7501) and it goes immediately to the Mobile page containing the 4 tabs mentioned above.  Of the 4 tabs, ‘comments’ and ‘the week’ seem to work but ‘features’ and ‘more’ are dead. 
Hope I’ve been helpful,
Brad Miter

[31] Posted by Brad M on 3-13-2009 at 12:53 PM · [top]


I’m still working on the “More” screen, so it’s going to be dead. Can’t understand why Features is dead and the others aren’t - same code handles all 3 buttons, and there’s nothing odd about the Features HTML. I continue to tinker with it, so all information from users is potentially helpful.

[32] Posted by Greg Griffith on 3-13-2009 at 02:45 PM · [top]

That is for the Internet Explorer Mobile.

Please don’t forget that IE Mobile has no real functionality.  It is my preferred browser as Opera is too slow.

[33] Posted by Brad M on 3-13-2009 at 04:09 PM · [top]

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