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Early days, yet Rob, early days. And while Ms. Haffner is getting her message out, we need to pray that God keeps the ears of our youth protected from such things. |
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The FACT remains that this document, however old, has gone unchallenged and the signators in the church have not been disciplined and told to repent, recant or be removed. These people still priss around in collars and purple, taking God’s money, spouting their heresies and immoral agendas and no one has the guts to deal with them in the correct and Scripture-mandated way. Therefore the young are being fed to these foxes and vultures. |
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When it was originally released in 2000, the “Declaration” had around 850 signatures (see here) and has now grown to include more than 3,200. |
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This looks like an old list on which an update has been attempted. Clearly, some of the names have long since left the positions with which they are identified. But others are relatively new in their positions, so there is a disconnect. The name listed near the beginning as at the “Episcopal church” in Angels Camp, CA is especially an eyebrow-raiser. Angels Camp is in the territory of the Diocese of San Joaquin—in fact, in the area that was part of the area in which I served as Rural Dean from 2000-2007. There was never an Episcopal congregation in that town during my time, nor do I recognize the name of the individual. This leads me to believe (without taking the trouble to look it up) that we’re talking about a recent plant by the Lamb regime. |
fwiw, Rwanda is the most densely populated nation on earth. I recently visited. Kigali is the cleanest city in Africa. Everywhere you looked, new construction was going up. I heard two different figures—last year, the GDP grew either 7 or 12%. |
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This “declaration” has been around for a long time already. I remember seeing a version of it somewhere in the handouts at GC 2000, Denver. and here is another press release that gives further background, including when the declaration was first circulated, and which Episcopalian bishops signed on first: Dale, I’ve known you to ask very intentional questions for clarity, but I’ve never known you to be particularly confused about anything. Here’s a comment without sarcasm markers: Isn’t one of Alinsky’s rules to mock? These folks now claim around 5000 signatures, from 50 religious groups, limited to ordained, professional, seminary faculty, etc. That averages out to 100 per religious group. 200 plus such folks from TECUSA should not surprise anybody. In fact, is that all they’ve been able to get to sign on? What a miniscule representation. Now, if you were to add up the numbers of clergy from just the Christian mainlines (say 10 of those 50 different religious groups), do you know how many clergy that would be? 100,000, more? 5000 signatures sure sounds like a lot, but it is a pittance in comparison. Do you think if we had a declaration around online for 9 years, and now a non-profit to back IT up and promote it constantly, that is, to advocate marriage and abstinence outside of marriage that there wouldn’t be at least 235 clergy and professional types to sign on? Well, in fact, how many clergy types belong to and advocate either T1:9 or Stand Firm?! RGEaton |
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Dan, |
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I see Fr. Backlund’s name listed in the Aug 2009 newsletter for St Paul’s: http://www.stpaulssacramento.org/Epistle/2009August/August2009Epistle.pdf |
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I found the list helpful as two names (not famous people at all) are familiar from the past and I had hoped to speak with them about missionary support - I will now not bother. So far as I am concerned they have gone to the dark side. |
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Ralinda, Now back to our regularly scheduled thread. |
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Dear Ralinda (21), |
Once again, there is a combination of words in the title that reveals the real agenda. One would usually think that “Sexuality Morality” would mean things like chastity and marital fidelity but when combined with the words “justice” and “healing” there is an entirely different spin on the phrase Sexual Morality. It concerns me that words are co-opted and given new meanings to portray what is wrong as right and to intentionally obfuscate the intent of the communication. |
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Dear Ralinda, This may have nothing to do with the subject, but I feel suddenly led to share this with you: |
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How old is this list? At least five years I suspect.