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January 31, 2010

BREAKING: +Anis Resigns from SCAC, Cites Uselessness and Double Standards

The Archbishop of the Middle East has called out The Episcopal Church and hard-core revisionists in the broader Communion. This is remarkable not just for its candor and accuracy, but for the fact that it comes from someone as patient and sweet-tempered as Mouneer Anis, who reminds me of a more patient and sweeter-tempered Drexel Gomez, if that’s possible. His departure can only been seen as one of the more devastating comments on Rowan Williams’ leadership in recent memory:

After much prayer and consideration, I hereby submit my resignation from the Standing Committee of the Anglican Communion (SCAC). I have come to realize that my presence in the current SCAC has no value whatsoever and my voice is like a useless cry in the wilderness. Having said that, I must say that since I joined the committee in 2007 I have learnt quite a lot and made friends who may disagree with me whom I appreciate very much and I will miss.

...I have come to the sad realization that there is no desire within the ACC and the SCAC to follow through on the recommendations that have been taken by the other Instruments of Communion to sort out the problems which face the Anglican Communion and which are tearing its fabric apart. Moreover, the SCAC, formerly known as the join Standing Committee (JSC), has continually questioned the authority of the other Instruments of Communion, especially the Primates Meeting and the Lambeth Conference.
Some may say that the provinces within the Anglican Communion are autonomous, and each province is free to make its own resolutions. While I agree and accept the autonomous nature of each province, I believe that the participation in the decision making process that affects the life of the Anglican Communion should be for those who show respect in word and deed to the whole Communion - not those who turn their backs to every appeal and warning.

Many sing praises of “inclusiveness” while at the same time the exclude others. I am deeply disturbed in my conscience when I see a kind of double-standard in dealing with different issues. While emphasizing the importance of caring for for the marginalized in our communities, like the LGBT community, the orthodox Anglicans are being marginalized. I understand that in a family, the concern of every member is cared for; but this is not the reality in our meetings where the orthodox voices are disregarded or suppressed.

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Prophetic words from Jerusalem.

[1] Posted by Michael D on 1-31-2010 at 07:54 PM · [top]

I hope that Bishop Mouneer knows that he continues to be in the prayers of Anglicans around the world. One can only imagine the heartbreak he feels in having to write such a letter. May our Lord continue to bless him, his province and his ministry in this time of trial for the Communion.

And may our Lord grant to Archbishop Williams and others the grace to hear and heed the good bishop’s words.  The time grows short.

[2] Posted by tjmcmahon on 1-31-2010 at 08:08 PM · [top]


[3] Posted by bdino on 1-31-2010 at 08:10 PM · [top]

An amazing statement.  What holy boldness and grace…a perfect blend.

[4] Posted by Liz Forman on 1-31-2010 at 08:10 PM · [top]

Please do follow the link and read Bishop Mouneer’s statement in its entirety.  This is a devastatingly accurate assessment of the state of the Anglican Communion.

I had the great privilege of becoming acquainted with Bishop Mouneer during my time in Egypt and of serving his diocese in a small way with some office work.  The diocese is small in numbers but very large in its witness to the poor and the sick in Egypt. The Bishop has been a strong witness also in his role in Anglican Communion matters.  All Anglicans, especially in the Westernized nations, would do well to heed his voice.

And while I’m at it, American Anglicans can now donate to a U.S. tax-deductible charity which sends the funds directly to support the mission of the Diocese of Egypt, its hospitals and educational services, providing an effective Christian witness in the heart of the Sunni Muslim world.

[5] Posted by Katherine on 1-31-2010 at 08:12 PM · [top]

This is the beginning of the end. The Anglican Communion will unravel. Its only a question of when. Sad really. It will be interesting to see how Abp John Chew reacts to this statement. He and Abp Mouneer worked hard to support ABC but the betrayal at the last ACC meeting was a bitter pill to swallow.

[6] Posted by AhKong2 on 1-31-2010 at 08:19 PM · [top]

I have a feeling Chew with back Anis to the hilt, but I don’t know either men so my guess is as good as yours.

Might this be the begining of a more open revolt by the previously silent Global South provinces?  Might more provinces go the way of the FCA?

[7] Posted by AndrewA on 1-31-2010 at 08:30 PM · [top]

Would that some of the Dioceses (we won’t call any names, just call them “pardners”), will read and heed the fact they are not going to be “saved” by signing the Covenant.

What a mess..

Grannie Gloria

[8] Posted by Grandmother on 1-31-2010 at 08:45 PM · [top]

If someone were to get copies of this to the members of the coming CoE Synod, one wonders if it might not impact the dynamics of that meeting.

The upcoming April GS meeting will be interesting to watch as well.  Remember the invitation- only those prepared to sign the Ridley draft and uphold Lambeth 1.10 need apply.  And that would appear to be the entire GS other than Brazil and maybe South Africa.  If the Communion has a future, it will be laid out in the next 6-8 weeks, and TEC, Canada, NZ, etc. are specifically not invited to participate in the planning.

[9] Posted by tjmcmahon on 1-31-2010 at 08:46 PM · [top]

Sheep on the right; goats on the left. Looks like a practice round in preparation for the big day.

+Mouneer is to be commended for being a shepherd of the sheep who has been willing to slog through the mess left by the goats and their wolvish “shepherds”. He wanted to make sure any lost sheep found their way back to the Sheepfold.

Now that he’s shaken off the dust from his sandals it’s pretty clear the sorting will accelerate.

[10] Posted by Doug Stein on 1-31-2010 at 08:59 PM · [top]

I have posted a quick analysis of Bp. Mouneer’s letter on T19 at

[11] Posted by Stephen Noll on 1-31-2010 at 09:09 PM · [top]

I’m so proud of Mouneer Anis.  Nobody can accuse him of being “hasty” or quick-drawing or impatient.  He has attended all the meetings and been dragged through the mire and had all sorts of betrayals and he’s plugged away, doing what he believed was his duty. 

And now he’s doing what he believes to be his duty again.

Man, I’m just so proud of his work over the past six years—the full body of it. He resigns with honor and dignity.

[12] Posted by Sarah on 1-31-2010 at 09:11 PM · [top]

The entire letter, including the footnotes, is well worth the read.

With grace and clarity, this good Bishop has spoken the truth in love.

What a contrast to the new majority of TEC and other western bishops who have cheapened grace, trampled the truth underfoot and consequently failed to act in the very love that has now eluded them in their self-deception, and I fear, the millstone of outright deception now firmly tied around their necks.

[13] Posted by AngliCanDo on 1-31-2010 at 09:21 PM · [top]


[14] Posted by Hosea6:6 on 1-31-2010 at 09:22 PM · [top]

How long do you suppose it will be before KJS asserts that ++Anis has renounced his orders and/or membership in the Anglican Communion.

On a more serious note, and having met and heard from ++Anis, I think that this if even he has given up on interacting with TEC, his action signifies not only how much more will the positions of the Global South be solidified, but how much more the fabric has been torn past mending.

[15] Posted by Connie Sandlin on 1-31-2010 at 09:38 PM · [top]


[16] Posted by Septuagenarian on 1-31-2010 at 09:51 PM · [top]


[17] Posted by JustOneVoice on 1-31-2010 at 09:52 PM · [top]


[18] Posted by heart on 1-31-2010 at 09:59 PM · [top]

Me too - subscribe.

[19] Posted by Bo on 1-31-2010 at 10:07 PM · [top]

And me, too!

[20] Posted by Cennydd on 1-31-2010 at 10:11 PM · [top]

+Anis has done so many things with this letter and his resignation. Consider just the fact that he has called into question the legitimacy of the SCAC itself, by not playing along with its challenges to the Primates Meeting and the Lambeth Conference.

Not that Lambeth has teeth any more, either, thanks (again) to Rowan and his allowing that ridiculous “indaba” nonsense, but +Anis seems to be rejecting not just the SCAC’s challenges to the Instrument of Unity, but rejecting the very notion that the SCAC even has grounds on which to make the challenges.

One thing’s for sure… Rowan Williams might be able to pigeonhole Peter Akinola as a hothead or an extremist… he might be able to pigeonhole Henry Orombi as unbending and unwilling to compromise… but he can’t pigeonhole Mouneer Anis as a hothead, or as an extremist, or as unbending, or as unwilling to compromise. When Mouneer Anis has had it up to here with your stupid committee, you’ve got bigger problems than you think.

[21] Posted by Greg Griffith on 1-31-2010 at 10:22 PM · [top]

In the full article, Abp. Anis and Cardinal Kasper have gotten this whole mess into a nutshell with their pinpointing of poor “apostolicity of the faith” in TEC and their cohorts.

They are trying to emphasize the authority of the ACC more than the authority of the above-mentioned instruments.  This clearly contradicts the Anglican way which affirms that we are “Episcopally led and synodically governed,” as Cardinal Kasper said at the Lambert Conference 2008:

“It also seems to us [the Roman Catholic Church] that the Anglican commitment to being ‘episcopally led and synodically governed’ has not always functioned in a way as to maintain the apostolicity of the faith, and that synodical government misunderstood as a kind of parliamentary process has at times blocked the sort of episcopal leadership envisaged by Cyprian and articulated in the ARCIC.”

[22] Posted by Mother on 1-31-2010 at 10:34 PM · [top]

This certainly makes the upcoming Global South meeting take incredible importance. I certainly would like to know what ABp Chew is thinking tonight.

[23] Posted by robroy on 1-31-2010 at 10:37 PM · [top]

I understand that in a family, the concern of every member is cared for; but this is not the reality in our meetings where the orthodox voices are disregarded or suppressed.

Something must be faced.  Either orthodox voices are going to be suppressed or liberal voices are going to be suppressed.  Which side gets suppressed will be determined by who wins the conflict, but there is no outcome that will allow happy coexistence between liberal religion and conservative religion.  So conservatives really shouldn’t complain that liberals are trying to suppress conservative voices.  They wouldn’t be consistent liberals if they weren’t trying to suppress conservative voices.  That is what liberals do.  It’s what conservatives should have been doing to liberal voices for several decades.  Then this crisis would never have come about.

Liberals are not spiritual family.  They are not wayward brothers.  They are advocates of a false religion.  They love the darkness and hate the light.  There is no point to reconciliation on these terms.  Consider them as the enemy, and accept that they must be driven out.  There is absolutely no doubt that this is the liberal view of the conflict.  It is a sober realistic and immutable view.  One hopes that conservatives would realize this truth, and act upon it.


[24] Posted by carl on 1-31-2010 at 11:10 PM · [top]

Prayers tonight for Bishop Anis…this is certainly an act of courage and faith.

[25] Posted by Intercessor on 1-31-2010 at 11:10 PM · [top]

The Anglican Communion in its present form will not recover from this.

[26] Posted by Br_er Rabbit on 1-31-2010 at 11:32 PM · [top]

Working from my recall, which may be faulty:  17 of the 35 provinces in the AC broke communion with TEC after VGR’s consecration; over a quarter of the bishops of the AC boycotted Lambeth Conference; one primate has not attended the last three meetings of the so-called Standing Committee, and another now resigns.  (I think that’s two out of five primates.) 
GAFCON and ACNA are sailing along.  The Roman Catholic Church sets up Anglican ordinariates.
We are a conciliar institution looking at the equivalent of a parliamentary vote of no confidence.

[27] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 1-31-2010 at 11:41 PM · [top]

A faithful leader. How he served, and how he left, should be a model for others.

[28] Posted by Going Home on 2-1-2010 at 12:02 AM · [top]

Carl, #24, Conservative Christians have no desire to emulate liberals, they have a better role model.

[29] Posted by Betty See on 2-1-2010 at 12:19 AM · [top]

[29] Betty See

Conservative Christians have no desire to emulate liberals, they have a better role model.

It’s not a matter of emulation.  It’s a matter of executing the necessary actions.  This conflict is not a family squabble defined by and constrained by common blood and common law.  It is a war.  Those who fight in war must acquire and develop remarkably similar skills.  Do you think the German submarine commander in WWII operated in any significant way different from his American counterpart?  It was not how they fought that separated them, but what they fought for.  So also here.  It is not wrong to silence an expression of a false gospel in the church.  It is not wrong to drive a heretic from the pulpit.  It is not wrong to expel an apostate from the ministry.

Liberals are seeking to advance a counterfeit version of Christianity.  They are seeking to silence the true gospel and replace it with a false gospel.  In doing so, they are simply being faithful advocates of their own religion.  We can’t accuse them of treachery when they are simply being consistent.  To advance liberal Christianity, it is necessary to first repress its orthodox competition.  To get mad and say “How dare they try to suppress our voice!” is equivalent to saying “How dare General Rommel try to win the Battle of El Alamein!”  Don’t get mad at them.  Respect them as the enemy and treat them as such. 


[30] Posted by carl on 2-1-2010 at 12:46 AM · [top]

1. I don’t agree with those who feel that “the Anglican Communion is finished”. How could that possibly be? The Communion existed long before this proposed covenant.  Millions of Anglicans the world over hold the Anglican Communion in great esteem, and their beliefs will not change one whit because of this. So, no, I don’t believe the Communion has been diminished or damaged. However, I agree that the liberals’ attempt to muzzle or divert the leaders of the Anglican Communion (through manipulating the ACC and Standing Committee) has been seriously damaged.

2. I would also say that +Anis’ resignation reinforces the growing tendency of orthodox Anglicans throughout the world to regard Canterbury as irrelevant. It doesn’t have to be that way; if a godly and orthodox Christian leader were at the helm (e.g. if Nazir-Ali had been chosen in 1991 instead of Williams) then Canterbury’s status would be enhanced by now. But +++Williams seems determined to drive orthodox to the brink of abandoning Canterbury’s primus inter pares role.

3. I urge you all to read Stephen Noll’s posts on TitusOneNine. As he points out there, ++Orombi has boycotted the last three Standing Committee meetings, but no-one has thought fit to inform ordinary members of the Communion of that fact

4. As Stephen Noll observes in his erudite posts, there is virtually no written constitution for the governing instruments of the Communion, which has left the Primates with freedom to act as their conscience dictates. However, the proposed covenant attempted to limit the ability of orthodox Primates to take joint action by defining a “Primates Council” as one called by the ABC. If the ABC declined to call a Council (as he in fact declined to do in 2009), the Primates Council would not exist.

5. +++Williams has ten more years before the customary age of retirement. He can do much more damage in that time. It would be best if the orthodox Primates dispensed with any further input from Canterbury and drafted their own covenant which sees Canterbury as simply one of the Primates. I wish it didn’t have to be that way, but without an orthodox ABC, Canterbury just cannot be trusted.

An alternative of course would be for the British establishment to tell +++Williams that its time to retire, which they might well do if they thought Canterbury’s status could be seriously threatened. But, in the absence of such a move, better to have a covenant without Canterbury than suffer any more of +++Williams’ shenanigans.

[31] Posted by MichaelA on 2-1-2010 at 03:01 AM · [top]

3. I urge you all to read Stephen Noll’s posts on TitusOneNine. As he points out there, ++Orombi has boycotted the last three Standing Committee meetings, but no-one has thought fit to inform ordinary members of the Communion of that fact.

Clarification: I do not speak for Henry Orombi. I do know he thought RW’s invitation of the JSC to the New Orleans HOB was a violation of the Primates’ decisions at Dar. As for the other two meetings, I can only say that he found other engagements more pressing than the JSC meetings, which says something. But I don’t think I called that a boycott.

[32] Posted by Stephen Noll on 2-1-2010 at 03:48 AM · [top]

I live in Cairo and attend an Episcopal church in Bishop Mouneer’s diocese, although these are my own views.
+Mouneer is no communion-wrecker. He has taken this decision out of extreme frustration. When he didn’t attend GAFCON, his evangelical credentials were questioned and it was thought he was too close to the AoC and Communion “establishment”. He has been a supporter of the covenant process, although he disagreed with watering down section 4.
It is the continued ineffectiveness of any of the instruments to do anything about TEC’s intransigence that has driven him to resign.

[33] Posted by spicksandspecks on 2-1-2010 at 05:32 AM · [top]


[34] Posted by Boring Bloke on 2-1-2010 at 05:42 AM · [top]

Wow.  Just catching up on this news.  Prayer and thanksgiving for Bp. Mouneer today.  I’m thankful for his bold witness and his integrity.  May the Lord give much wisdom to all orthodox leaders within the Anglican Communion as they seek to know how to respond.  May the Lord use ++Mouneer’s witness to shine light on the truth and bring conviction and lead many to repentance.

[35] Posted by Karen B. on 2-1-2010 at 08:28 AM · [top]

It is time for a JERUSALEM COVENANT. 

And it is time for a real Anglican Communion.

The Anglican Communion has been a sham from the beginning.  The first meeting of the ‘Anglican Communion’ at Lambeth in 1867 was as much a sham as the last Lambeth and the last AC meeting in Jamaica were shams.

Orthodox Anglicanism is a beautiful, clear, effectual, life-giving, valid and orthodox expression of Christianity and is definitely worth saving.

However, it must be backed by a Covenant based on Scripture, the Articles and Formulary that is carefully overseen and guarded by a Primates Council that operates in the fear of God, not man.

Anglicanism must have a real Communion reinforced by a real Covenant that mandates transparency and accountability, swift and certain consequences - jury, judge, justice and jail. 

There must be accountability and consequences for ALL levels of structures (parish to province) and ALL levels of leadership (primates to laity) - a penalty box removal from all forms of influence, ie teaching, preaching, committees, leading retreats, etc. and include those outside the Anglican body or retired, who are promulgating ungodly apostate agendas (ie, Spong, Kevin Jennings, Obama, Sebelius, etc.) to speak in the church, at church-sponsored venues or be sponsored.

This accountability and transparency should cover personal behavior, finances as well as scrupulous adherence to Communion canons and constitution.

Without insisting on these safeguards, Anglicanism will remain embroiled forever in a codependent, enmeshed, unhealthy, turbulent relationship with the North American/UK-centered AC which has in reality become The Episcopal Political Idealogy Desemination organization (TEPID). See Revelation 3:16 (or all of Revelation 2-3)

And without safeguards, Anglicanism will be plagued by charlatans, scandals and drains on her, or rather CHRIST’S reputation, people, resources and time.  The harm done to the Name and people of Jesus Christ is primary.

Without such safeguards, Anglicanism as an organization will remain the anarchical oligarchy of a privileged old boys club it has always been. 

It is a true testimony to the power of our Holy Almighty God that He has been able to use Anglicans to spread His Gospel despite so many purple and vestment clad insulated and privileged counterfeit shepherds.

[36] Posted by Floridian on 2-1-2010 at 08:30 AM · [top]

[37] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 2-1-2010 at 09:51 AM · [top]

in our meetings where the orthodox voices are disregarded or suppressed

Here is the current reality throughout the western power structure of the AC.  Revisionists have never answered this charge.  They simply cannot.


Would that other bishops follow Abp. Anis’s lead.

[38] Posted by Athanasius Returns on 2-1-2010 at 10:04 AM · [top]

The time for Rowan Williams to step down has passed. In retirement, he can keep writing popular spirituality books, and dabble in theology. Her Majesty can easily find someone who will take charge and cleanse the temple.

[39] Posted by Ralph on 2-1-2010 at 10:09 AM · [top]

And she will.

[40] Posted by Cennydd on 2-1-2010 at 10:13 AM · [top]

Thank you Jill (37), that is a beautiful and fitting prayer.  May our Lord continue to bless and strengthen Bishop Mouneer.

[41] Posted by tjmcmahon on 2-1-2010 at 10:28 AM · [top]

Oh, what a joy and relief to read PLAIN SPEAKING, with STRAIGHT-FORWARD WORDS, no roundaboutation of thinking or speaking, no “weasel-wording” to say one thing and sound like the opposite!  What pleasure to have a spade called a spade, and not MUFFLE it so someone thinks it’s a club!  No crossed fingers behind the back!  No fawning because “we need the money”  How Christ-like!  Thanks be to God!

[42] Posted by Goughdonna on 2-1-2010 at 10:45 AM · [top]

Well now, there is more than one take on this. The revisionist world view doesn’t quite see things the same way. They see this as a power grab by +Anis who is only a puppet of the conservatives.
I don’t think they have the capacity or the desire to look beyond the interests of TEC.

[43] Posted by Fr. Dale on 2-1-2010 at 10:56 AM · [top]


Jim Naughton might as well have I’M A RACIST tattooed on his forehead.

BigTex AC

[44] Posted by BigTex AC on 2-1-2010 at 11:03 AM · [top]

Carl, regarding your take on liberals: it does make sense, but what always made me crazy when I was in TEC was the way many bishops and others would blab on about “inclusiveness” when it was really code for “inclusive on OUR terms”. If they had said that right from the start, maybe some conservatives would’ve left sooner, but some (like myself) thought the term had a much broader meaning than it truly did. When we saw firsthand the persecution of conservatives who spoke out, we knew the liberals were not being honest.

[45] Posted by DavidSh on 2-1-2010 at 11:03 AM · [top]

Dcn Dale, let ‘em think what they will….not that it’ll make any difference.  Bishop Mouneer has spoken….loud and clear....and if the revisionists don’t like it, then that’s too bad.

[46] Posted by Cennydd on 2-1-2010 at 11:15 AM · [top]

And now, of course, we can expect Schori and Company to gloss over his resignation with their usual spin.

[47] Posted by Cennydd on 2-1-2010 at 11:17 AM · [top]

Meanwhile, Naughton has attacked +Anis and is rather nasty about it:

[48] Posted by Newbie Anglican on 2-1-2010 at 11:37 AM · [top]

#30 Carl

Your comment was the best to answer to.  It is the Enemy that has whispered in these peoples ears. He has falsely promised them glory and recognition in this world if they will only do these things that they are doing.  I have been observing the increasing fight around the world against Christianity; and, we know who is the author of this battle.  We are at war with Evil.  We need to renounce the revisionists as the heretics, apostates, and blasphemers that they are.  We need to reject Communion with them and call for their repentance and penitence.  We need to do this with love as Christ has taught us.

[49] Posted by BillB on 2-1-2010 at 11:38 AM · [top]

And the ABC has sent the following non-statement:

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, today expressed his regret at the decision of the Most Revd Dr Mouneer Anis, Bishop of the Anglican Diocese of Egypt with North Africa and the Horn of Africa, and President Bishop of the Province of Jerusalem and the Middle East, to resign from the Standing Committee of the Anglican Communion:

“Bishop Mouneer has made an important contribution to the work of the Standing Committee, for which I am deeply grateful. I regret his decision to stand down but will continue to welcome his active engagement with the life of the Communion and the challenges we face

[50] Posted by Goughdonna on 2-1-2010 at 11:54 AM · [top]

I think the Queen should ask for the resignation of both Williams and Kearon.  No one can dispute her titles of Head of the Church of England and Defender of the Faith. She has earned great affection over her long reign.  She would be roundly criticized by some, of course, but it has become increasingly difficult to defend the status quo. I think she has the traction to weather the storm. She could appoint appropriate interims and recommend a time of healing before proceeding with the next appointment.  I know it would be unprecedented in the modern history of the British monarchy, but the situation is unprecedented as well.

[51] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 2-1-2010 at 12:31 PM · [top]

It’s funny how the ABC has no time to answer the specific questions that ++Anis’ resignation raise, but yet he has plenty of time to lecture Wall Street on how they should use their money.

[52] Posted by billqs on 2-1-2010 at 12:35 PM · [top]

#52, billqs,

That’s not funny.  That’s pathetic with a capital P.

[53] Posted by Athanasius Returns on 2-1-2010 at 12:43 PM · [top]

I think that it was Sir Humphrey Appelby who observed `It’s interesting that that nowadays politicians want to talk about moral issues, and bishops want to talk politics.’ That was in the 1980s, and things have moved on, but the principle remains. Surely discussions about economics, politics, climate change, millennium development goals etc. are the very centre of the modern Archbishop’s job. What are trifling matters such as Church discipline, doctrine, evangelism, sacraments and exposition compared to that? (Also, since he believes himself better qualified than them to take their job, perhaps Archbishop Williams feels that economists etc. are better qualified than him to fulfil his own vocation. It’s not his fault that the bankers and lawyers aren’t doing anything to stop TEC).

[54] Posted by Boring Bloke on 2-1-2010 at 01:02 PM · [top]

#51—If I remember correctly, Kearon’s office is paid for by TEC money, and not even ++RW has control over that appointment.

[55] Posted by tk+ on 2-1-2010 at 01:09 PM · [top]

[52] billqs

It’s funny how the ABC has no time to answer the specific questions that ++Anis’ resignation raise, but yet he has plenty of time to lecture Wall Street on how they should use their money.

Lecturing Wall Street about money is moral posturing.  There really is no risk to RW from such punditry, and he gets alot of backslaps from all the right people for ‘speaking truth to power.’  This resignation however is dangerous to RW and his plans.  He has to consider carefully how to diffuse this matter.  If he rushes in and rashly chooses to cut the red wire, he will likely set the bomb off in his face.


[56] Posted by carl on 2-1-2010 at 01:50 PM · [top]

#51. Jill Woodliff,

I think the Queen should ask for the resignation of both Williams and Kearon.

I agree with you about this. Does this make me a moderate like you or does it make you a hot head like me?

[57] Posted by Fr. Dale on 2-1-2010 at 02:14 PM · [top]

#57, neither, Dcn Dale.  It just makes us realists.  There is no trust left.

[58] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 2-1-2010 at 02:53 PM · [top]

I think the Queen should ask for the resignation of both Williams and Kearon. 

I think conservatives have given magical thinking enough chances.  Why the queen? I suggest the tooth fairy, who I recollect from my childhood was very reliable.

[59] Posted by paradoxymoron on 2-1-2010 at 02:59 PM · [top]

I wonder if the timing of Abp. Mouneer’s letter was influenced by the COE Synod scheduled for next week. I understand that a private member’s resolution, to be debated next week, calls for the COE to recognize ACNA. Would that explain some of Jim Naughton’s anger?

Cross posted at T-19.

[60] Posted by Publius on 2-1-2010 at 03:06 PM · [top]

Actually Publius it’ll be interesting to see how Naughton reacts if the CofE synod does recognize ACNA, given his and his commentators’ rants over at the Cafe. Approval from England would not fit nicely into the “they-didn’t-get-their-way-and-now-they’re-subverting-again” rant, which of course is flawed from the get-go, but that’s another matter. Dave

[61] Posted by DavidSh on 2-1-2010 at 03:39 PM · [top]


I think conservatives have given magical thinking enough chances.

Magical thinking is a symptom of psychosis….but you’re close… very close. Now moderates, that is another story. By the way, conservatives did get an unexpected win in Massachusetts. Could it be two in a row?

[62] Posted by Fr. Dale on 2-1-2010 at 04:30 PM · [top]

1. Stephen Noll at #32

Clarification: I do not speak for Henry Orombi. I do know he thought RW’s invitation of the JSC to the New Orleans HOB was a violation of the Primates’ decisions at Dar. As for the other two meetings, I can only say that he found other engagements more pressing than the JSC meetings, which says something. But I don’t think I called that a boycott.

Quite right, my apologies. You didn’t state anything about ++Orombi’s reasons for not attending the meetings, so my use of the word “boycott” was inappropriate.

Thank you for your regular perspectives from Africa, which is such an important part of our Communion these days.

2. Greg Griffith at #21

One thing’s for sure… Rowan Williams might be able to pigeonhole Peter Akinola as a hothead or an extremist… he might be able to pigeonhole Henry Orombi as unbending and unwilling to compromise… but he can’t pigeonhole Mouneer Anis as a hothead, or as an extremist, or as unbending, or as unwilling to compromise.

Respectfully, yes he can pigeonhole +Anis as all those things. His pigeonholing of ++Akinola and ++Orombi was never remotely justified, so he won’t need any justification to do the same to Anis.

++Akinola and ++Orombi were (and are) fearless and prophetic leaders, and their decision to openly break with Canterbury was just as godly a decision as that of +Anis to attempt to work with the liberals. In my view, it is a great pity that Anis didn’t attend Gafcon (he may well regret it himself now). But what’s done is done. The important thing is that +Anis has made this public witness, and that we support him in prayer and by any other means possible.

3. Floridian at #36,
I don’t think the Anglican Communion is a sham. I think the real Anglican Communion is here already, and operating as well as any denomination ever has. It is facing a determined assault by western liberals who are attempting to subvert it, using such means as the Standing Committee or the “covenant”, but that doesn’t change what has been happening now for some time.

Nor do we necessarily need a covenant at all - the present “covenant” appears to be a tool of the liberals to prevent the Primates operating according to their conscience. Whilst I am not against the idea of a covenant per se, I can see a strong argument that we may be better off without one.

[63] Posted by MichaelA on 2-1-2010 at 05:36 PM · [top]

#59, I’m well aware that an intervention by Her Majesty is highly unlikely, but I still regard it as the least destructive option.  I shudder when I contemplate the politics that may take place around financially vulnerable provinces in the Communion.

[64] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 2-1-2010 at 06:12 PM · [top]


[65] Posted by kalee on 2-1-2010 at 10:12 PM · [top]

Michael A, In the years since GC03, we have seen nothing but sham, shilly-shallying, shenanigans and shell games out of the revisionists and their allies.

Read the history of the first Lambeth at the Anglican Curmudgeon’s (entitled Ghost of Lambeth Past)....what we have seen was present in the beginning of the AC

[66] Posted by Floridian on 2-1-2010 at 10:34 PM · [top]

I have no argument with you about that, Floridian. It doesn’t really go to my point, however.

[67] Posted by MichaelA on 2-1-2010 at 10:56 PM · [top]

Like so many others above, I heartily welcome this important move by ++Anis.  As Greg and others rightly noted, this eminently patient and kind man is well known for his persistent efforts to build bridges instead of walls among international leaders of the AC.  His integrity can’t be reasonably questioned (although that hasn’t kept Jim Naughton from doing it, unreasonably).

Naturally, I applaud and salute this champion of orthodoxy for taking this highly significant step, and releasing such a calm, restrained letter announcing his decision.  The only thing I’ll add is that this resignation must inevitably tend to undermine the practical usefulness of the new Covenant, since the Covenant relies so heavily on the “SCAC.” which is now more thoroughly discredited than ever.

As I’ve said all along, the current international structures of the AC are hopelessly broken, beyond repair.  They don’t need “fine tuning” or “adjustment.”  The whole system needs to be totally overhauled and replaced.  Not slow, evolutionary change, but drastic, revolutionary change in our polity system, and in our whole culture, at the international level is necessary.  Nothing less will suffice.

Which is one reason, among many, why nothing less than a New Reformation will do.  This weighty protest against the subersion of the SCAC and AC from one of the most honored and distinguised leaders in the Global South is a significant sign that such a radical re-forming of Anglicanism is closer than ever.  Thanks be to God.

David Handy+

[68] Posted by New Reformation Advocate on 2-2-2010 at 12:12 PM · [top]

PS, thanks to Dr. Noll for taking the time to weigh in here (#11 and 32).  As always, his astute comments are very helpful.

David Handy+

[69] Posted by New Reformation Advocate on 2-2-2010 at 12:16 PM · [top]

Two sections of Abp. Anis’s letter stand out:

There are many good aspects of the Covenant but I have the following points to make:

A.  I hope that Provinces who would sign and adopt the Covenant would take it seriously and think many times before taking unilateral decisions that may hinder the mission of other parts of the Communion.
B.    Provinces who violate the spirit of the Covenant should not be allowed to sign or adopt the Covenant in the first place.  Otherwise, we will be allowing provinces to come to a covenantal relationship while carrying baggage that has already torn the fabric of the Communion.  Such provinces need to be encouraged to sort out the conflict with the Communion before they adopt the Covenant.

5.  The Good News for Anglicanism

Having made all of the critiques, the good news is that the Anglican Communion is alive and fast-growing, mainly in the Global South.  Many people are leaving congregational churches to join the Anglican Church for its strong Scriptural stand, its ordered structure, and its rich liturgical worship.  It’s a phenomenon that the churches that uphold the traditional Anglican faith are growing very fast.

I sense a gathering storm that will suppress the onslaught of the “enlightened”, elitist revisionist powerbrokers of the AC.  E’en so, LORD Jesus quickly come.

[70] Posted by Athanasius Returns on 2-5-2010 at 11:08 AM · [top]

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