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Earth religions get worship area at Air Force Academy

Tuesday, February 2, 2010 • 3:35 pm


The Air Force Academy has set aside an outdoor worship area for Pagans, Wiccans, Druids and other Earth-centered believers, school officials said Monday.

A double circle of stones atop a hill on the campus near Colorado Springs has been designated for the group, which previously met indoors.

"Being with nature and connecting with it is kind of the whole point," said Tech. Sgt. Brandon Longcrier, who sponsors the group and describes himself as a Pagan. "It will dramatically improve that atmosphere, the mindset and the actual connection."

The stones were moved to the hilltop last year because erosion threatened to make them unstable in their previous location near the visitors center. Crews arranged them in two concentric circles because they thought it would be a pleasant place for cadets to relax, Longcrier said.

When Longcrier and academy chaplains were looking for an outdoor worship space, they discovered one already existed in the form of the circles.

Lt. Col. William Ziegler, one of the academy's chaplains, said designating the space is part of the school's effort to foster religious tolerance and to defend the constitutional guarantee of religious freedom.

"It's about our commitment as airmen to protect freedom and defend freedom. To me this is a freedom thing," he said.

Comments:

When will these flyboys be given the labyrinth they so obviously need??

[1] Posted by via orthodoxy on 02-02-2010 at 02:55 PM • top

A story like this actually does not bother me. I’d much rather a group of people express who they really are and fight for their Constitutional rights for free exercise than the “freedom from religion” atheistic approach of the secularist.

[2] Posted by Hosea6:6 on 02-02-2010 at 03:08 PM • top

Well at least they didn’t put in the Cadet Chapel.  That would really have been a sacrilege.

[3] Posted by Cennydd on 02-02-2010 at 03:11 PM • top

Why don’t they just build an Episcopal Church?

[4] Posted by Matt Kennedy on 02-02-2010 at 03:27 PM • top

The ACLU will be along any moment… any moment now… just give them a bit…

[5] Posted by Festivus on 02-02-2010 at 03:28 PM • top

#4 Matt - see #1 above.

[6] Posted by Festivus on 02-02-2010 at 03:29 PM • top

I was a USAFA cadet for one (very long) semester.  The Chapel was a wonderful place to worship, and the chaplain was a biblical Christian.  It is a long story about how I got there and why I left, but the Chapel and the Nav’s kept me going.

I am both glad and sad about this “earth-religion” worship area.  It is a good thing that it was not just subsumed under some generic “Protestant” label; they get to be distinct and the Christian group does not have to try to accommodate them.  On the other hand, they are away from Christ’s truth, and headed for spiritual disaster.  I sometimes wonder if Wicca, etc, would be so attractive (I suspect a lot of adherents think of the “cool” factor) if churchianity were not so common.  The joy of knowing Jesus is hard to see when many professing Christians are moralizers and self-helpers rather than committed to knowing, loving, and serving Jesus.

[7] Posted by AnglicanXn on 02-02-2010 at 03:30 PM • top

Well as long as they aren’t getting naked, smoking peyote and offering raisin cakes to the Queen of Heaven up on the flatiron—that would be a bit too much religious freedom. 
I think the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell will be more disruptive to the Academy than the wiccan circle.

[8] Posted by Ralinda on 02-02-2010 at 03:50 PM • top

I have a son at the AFA, and I am VERY glad they are not in the chapel.  I frankly don’t like the Muslim’s being in there.

If you ever get a chance to visit - take the time - it is well worth a guided tour.

Repealing “don’t ask don’t tell” puts those who choose a homosexual lifestyle AT RISK.  I sure hope that doesn’t happen - close quarters are bad enough as it is.

[9] Posted by B. Hunter on 02-02-2010 at 04:09 PM • top

The Cadet Chapel is well worth a visit, and if you have a chance to attend the non-denominational Protestant service there, please do!

[10] Posted by Cennydd on 02-02-2010 at 04:57 PM • top

Isn’t it just amazing.  Back when the first ammendment was being debated, the intent of the founders was to make sure that Congress could not establish a national religion nor prevent the exercise of free religion by the people.
What their original writings made clear was that the Founders were discussing various denominations of the CHRISTIAN RELIGION!  Not Wiccans, Pagens, or other abominations.  The definitions of religion that the Supreme Court has used only appears in the Supreme’s own dictionary.
So we are not obliged as a nation to support every nutcase kook who wants to commune with the earth.  But of course in our PC worldview, we will.

[11] Posted by Capt. Deacon Warren on 02-02-2010 at 05:40 PM • top

Note to cadets - when the Pagans say “skyclad”, it doesn’t mean suited up in your flight gear and heading for your fighter jet grin

[12] Posted by Doug Stein on 02-02-2010 at 08:33 PM • top

Where do the Rastafarian cadets go to smoke marijuana and listen to reggae music?  Nevermind, I answered my own question: the Episcopal Church in Colorado Springs. [duh]

[13] Posted by Chazaq on 02-02-2010 at 09:36 PM • top

Why earth gods?  Shouldn’t that be an Army thing?  You’d think the neopagan flyboys would be all about Sky and Wind gods.. jeez.

[14] Posted by Chris Molter on 02-03-2010 at 10:27 AM • top

I’m wondering when God will command us to go and eliminate the “high places” - this would be one of them, right?  big surprise

What?  He already did?  Oh….

[15] Posted by B. Hunter on 02-03-2010 at 11:22 AM • top

These people have done more for their country than I ever have.  I respect and admire them for the choice they have made to defend this country with with their lives.

[16] Posted by paradoxymoron on 02-03-2010 at 03:05 PM • top

As the article points out: The academy superintendent, Lt. Gen. Michael Gould, has made religious tolerance a priority. It became a concern in 2004 when a survey found many cadets had heard slurs or jokes about other religions and that some felt ostracized because they weren’t religious.

It apparently got so bad, one Jewish student even felt compelled to sue.

The article continues, Longcrier and Ziegler said they’ve heard no criticism of the new worship space but both noted its presence was just made public.

But wait, according to the LA Times there’s more:
‘Cross found at Air Force Academy’s Wicca center’
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-wicca3-2010feb03,0,3367750.story

Peace,
-ms

[17] Posted by miserable sinner on 02-03-2010 at 03:35 PM • top

I echo Hosea6:6’s sentiments.

[18] Posted by AndrewA on 02-03-2010 at 03:50 PM • top

So Andrew, if one of them wants to burn babies to Molech, you’re okay with that?
What’s wrong with adhereing to the founding principles of this country?  After all, this is the Air Force, what we pay for?

[19] Posted by Capt. Deacon Warren on 02-03-2010 at 09:30 PM • top

Capt. Deacon Warren - argumentum ad hominem.

[20] Posted by Banned From Stand Firm on 30 Jul 10 on 02-04-2010 at 12:02 AM • top

So Andrew, if one of them wants to burn babies to Molech, you’re okay with that?

The abortion debate aside, human sacrafice would be covered under the murder statues, and at any rate is NOT something commonly practiced by modern neo-pagans and wiccans.

What’s wrong with adhereing to the founding principles of this country?

You mean like freedom of religion? 

After all, this is the Air Force, what we pay for?

To kill people and break things. 

Please explain to me why I should object to neo-pagans serving and practicing their religion in the military and not Athiests, Hindus, Jews, Buddihsts, Mormons, etc?

[21] Posted by AndrewA on 02-04-2010 at 07:08 AM • top

#21 Andrew, two points.
First, we pay for all our defense requirements for defense.  If things get broken and people killed as a result, that is part of the awful part of war.  That’s why you don’t want war.  And since you don’t want war, you pay for defense.
Two, the writings of the Founders did not discuss the panalapy of things which the Supreme Court has over the years decided is religion.  The Founders were clear in their writings as they debated the First Ammendment that they were discussing various denominations of the Christian Religion.  So in the case where they DID want religion taught in school, just as one example, they were not thinking of neo-pagen or wiccan “religion”.  They were concerned that the Federal Govt not stomp on Episcopalians (as an example) in South Carolina just because the Baptist denomination was particularly strong.
With all the faults of the Supreme Court’s expansion of what is constitutionally recognized as “religion”, we now get the privilige of supporting all this in our Air Force Academy.  And on a similar note, the Chaplain Corps in the US Military is now looking the same way.  The Founders clearly clearly clearly intended this to remain a Christian nation and its institutions to draw their moral courage and strength from the Christian Religion.
My Molech comment was over the top, for which I apologize.

[22] Posted by Capt. Deacon Warren on 02-04-2010 at 06:02 PM • top

My BIL is an Air Force chaplain (and Episcopal priest, but let’s leave that one alone for the moment) and is in charge of all the chaplains where he is stationed.  He talks about the fine line he has to walk in providing space for everyone who claims to have a religion.  When we visited, we noticed that the Wicca people had a little room across the hallway from the main (huge) chapel space.  (It says “Wicca” on the door.) 

I have attended both the big contemporary Protestant service and the smaller liturgical service at that base.  At both services, Jesus was preached unapologetically, thank the Lord.  The contemporary (with a rockin’ band) service is attended by hundreds of Trainees.  The liturgical service, with communion, is attended by maybe 20-30, but they are quite devoted.  (The pianist, unfortunately, plays all the hymns like his hair is on fire.)

Pray for the cadets and trainees at these Air Force bases.  They are under incredible pressure—training can be excruciating, and this situation opens them up to hear the Gospel in deep and life-changing ways.  My BIL counsels many suicidal kids each year.  Going to the chapel each week is the only time they are allowed to let down their hair, at all.

Pray also for the chaplains, who are often crushed between duty to God and duty to Uncle Sam.

[23] Posted by Cindy T. in TX on 02-05-2010 at 09:56 AM • top

Leaving the cross at the pagan site is just a harmless form of evangelizing, is it not?  I would think that Christians would be expected to do this as part of their faith.

[24] Posted by Nabber on 02-06-2010 at 10:42 AM • top

Cindy, just for us old folks, is “BIL” internetese for “brother in law” or is it some military command acronym with which I am not familiar?

[25] Posted by tjmcmahon on 02-06-2010 at 10:57 AM • top

Hee hee.  Bad me.  I scold my brother in law about using strings of military acronyms that most of us don’t have a clue about.  Yes.  BIL is “brother in law.”  Mea culpa.

[26] Posted by Cindy T. in TX on 02-06-2010 at 11:36 AM • top

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