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[CofE] Fulham+ “Why Should I Be Forced Out?”

Tuesday, February 9, 2010 • 7:18 pm


From the BBC Hardtalk Programme, an interview with the Bishop of Fulham, the UK chair of Forward in Faith



Personally, I would have liked to have heard Fulham+ reverse the charge of "staying in for the money" and throw it against the liberals. Either way, he ends strong!

Original article here.
Comments:

Stayers and leavers ought to be allowed to ask this question directly to the leaders of the revisionist sects in power within the AC.  All we’d hear, though, would be chirruping crickets.  Feh.  Anglican disunion, to be certain!

[1] Posted by Athanasius Returns on 02-09-2010 at 07:00 PM • top

My. Makes me sleepy just watching it.

[2] Posted by Festivus on 02-10-2010 at 06:06 AM • top

This is the question that the leadership of the EC and the AC have failed to address (along with others).  If you want Traditionalists to stay, then those in the position of leadership and power must decide to make a place for them.  The sad fact is they are not.  They are doing nothing to retain Traditional clergy, dioceses, and churches.  The reality is they are not even tolerated and bishops are replacing them in positions of leaders in the diocese and helping them to leave by not helping when they need support.

Talk is easy.  Action is harder and the fact is the leadership of TEC and the AC does not want the Traditionalists clergy or laity to remain.  They rather they go so that they can get on with their New Gospel.

All their words come across as empty…for their actions say here is the door.

I wish this were not the case….but reality is harsh.

[3] Posted by Creighton+ on 02-10-2010 at 06:50 AM • top

God’s name is Jehovah-jireh because He delights in providing for His children.  My husband was the managing partner of a law firm before he entered the ministry.  The budget of our tiny rural parish is hand-to-mouth.  We needed $18,000 for a new roof on the parish hall recently, and a parish family anonymously stepped forward to pay it.  The parish account was low a few weeks ago, and we prayed for checks in the mail.  Someone we never heard of, who lived in our hometown decades ago, sent the church a check for $10,000.  A week later, someone in the county sent the church soup kitchen a check for $2,500. 
We Americans value predictable, comfortable flows of income because we like to make plans and be “in control.”  I’ve got to say, though, it is a kick to see how God works when we yield the control to Him.

[4] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 02-10-2010 at 06:57 AM • top

[off topic political comment on personal appearance deleted; commenter is warned]

[5] Posted by midwestnorwegian on 02-10-2010 at 08:12 AM • top

Why all of a sudden is this hard core interviewer going for a jugular vein that is not necessarily the problem. What this priest makes in salary is not the issue…the issue is those who are looking to push their own desires, wants, and needs that are not in alignment with God’s Word, plan, nor design onto the Church and down our throats then force us to accept them and say they are blessed when we know they are not. I have seen interviews with this Stephen Sackur before and I got say I would stay as far away from him as possible…he seems to be in my opinion, to be a liberal revisionist of the millionth degree. He is very good at twisting the facts, interrupting, not listening, etc…he comes off looking and sounding like a revisionist bully. Makes me sick….puke!

[6] Posted by TLDillon on 02-10-2010 at 10:20 AM • top

Sackur is a jerk, and the lionhearted bishop has my prayers. 

I’d love to discuss the “perks” of being a priest with Mr. Jerk, even in America, where, e.g., one of my priestly friends and his family

1.  Are six people living in a 2000 square foot house;

2. House needs about $100,000 worth of work that the family can’t afford;

3.  They own the house, but it’s the bare minimum to house them and only about one step above living in the projects;

4.  Clergyman wonders how he’ll ever afford retirement and putting his kids through college if they want to go;

5.  There’s money for food, housing, and clothing(which, granted, is more than some people have) but that’s about it. 

Perks, huh?

[7] Posted by Proud Bottom Feeder on 02-10-2010 at 10:45 AM • top

A good public appearance by a godly bishop before a rather hostile interviewer.

At this point in England, all publicity for the orthodox cause is good publicity. The pew-sitters and unaligned clergy in CofE must be made to understand what is going to happen.

Reform has threatened to withdraw its clergy and its money if General Synod votes for women bishops in July. If Reform effectively sets up an English ACNA (without the property disputes, because they know they can never take the buildings) then the anglo catholics are likely to join, either immediately or soon after - ACNA has seved as an excellent example of how evangelicals and anglo-catholics can work together in a new province.

If the evangelicals and anglo-catholics leave, then CofE will have serious money problems.

[8] Posted by MichaelA on 02-10-2010 at 04:36 PM • top

“Why must I be pushed out”?

Cause, like +South Carolina, you still preach the Gospel.
That’s why..  And, SC’s pushing out has begun.

Grandmother in SC

[9] Posted by Grandmother on 02-10-2010 at 05:40 PM • top

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