May 23, 2013

July 5, 2010


[Flashback] Alabama bishop defends Episcopal Church statement in support of ordaining homosexuals

Just a little reminder of the character and level of integrity of the bishop of Alabama, Henry Parsley.

What a disgraceful lie that statement was in the aftermath of the 2009 General Convention—and how thoroughly demonstrated that lie is now.

From the Birmingham News, where there is more:

Many observers, both conservative and liberal, say the 2006 moratorium has been essentially overturned by the new resolution.

Parsley disagrees.

“My view is that it doesn’t overturn the resolution from three years ago,” Parsley said. “It reminds the larger church where we are in terms of valuing the gifts of all our members.

“This does not repeal the moratorium; it says we’re open to all people. It affirms our relationships with the Anglican Communion and acknowledges that there are many who don’t agree. It’s very respectful. We continue to seek the mind of Christ.”

Parsley said he hoped the denomination would abide by its previous call to refrain from ordaining any more openly practicing homosexuals as bishops, for the sake of Anglican unity.

“I would see that as still having effect, although this statement affirms the ministry and the gifts of all people,” Parsley said. “That does include gays and lesbians. There’s been wrestling for some years with recognizing the gifts of gays and lesbians in the church, particularly in terms of ordination.”

Seeking consensus
Parsley said he hopes this helps settle the ordination matter . . .


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I hope this is remembered as the diocese looks to name his replacement.

[1] Posted by billqs on 7-5-2010 at 11:26 AM · [top]

Hi Billqs . . . unfortunately it’s too late—Parsley has stocked the diocese with raving revisionist clergy who will influence the lay delegates on voting.

The best thing to do is to simply ratchet back the diocesan pledges, either through one’s parish formally doing so, or through giving practically nothing to one’s parish.

Severely limiting finances is, at this point, the only effective tactic.

[2] Posted by Sarah on 7-5-2010 at 11:59 AM · [top]

Which is worse? A so-called moderate Bishop who obfuscates the true state of the church and Diocese, or a more openly liberal Bishop who is candid about the church and where he stands? 

You have had the former, you are about to get the latter.

[3] Posted by Going Home on 7-5-2010 at 12:28 PM · [top]

Going Home might be right in his prediction.  I would surely welcome the clarity!

[4] Posted by more martha than mary on 7-5-2010 at 12:38 PM · [top]

“We passed a large and subtle resolution, wanting to value the ministries of gays and lesbians,” Parsley said in an interview.

Does this mean that TEC will be hosting more “large and subtle,” multi-religious, semi-pagan, extravaganza Ordinations in the future?

[5] Posted by Betty See on 7-5-2010 at 01:17 PM · [top]

We did not overturn the previous resolution, we just ignored it in order to preseve unity. What double talk and utter nonsense.

[6] Posted by Pb on 7-5-2010 at 01:34 PM · [top]

Parsley has far more credibility as a garnish than he does as a bishop.

the snarkster™

[7] Posted by the snarkster on 7-5-2010 at 01:54 PM · [top]

Thank you Snarkster. One parsley I eat almost everyday the other Parsely I spit out.
Intercessor

[8] Posted by Intercessor on 7-5-2010 at 02:57 PM · [top]

Looking on the bright side…
Just think how different things would be if Bishop Parsley had garnered those few extra votes needed to win the Presiding Bishop post.  He really was soooo close, if you will remember!  He would be spreading his obfuscating cheer around the Episcopal Organization and into the entire Anglican Communion.  As it is, with folks outside the Diocese not really paying much attention to him anymore, his double talking ways can’t harm any other than the people remaining in Alabama.

[9] Posted by more martha than mary on 7-5-2010 at 04:23 PM · [top]

unfortunately it’s too late—Parsley has stocked the diocese with raving revisionist clergy who will influence the lay delegates on voting.

A quick glance at the members of the nominating committee isn’t too encouraging either.  The chair is a member of the same parish I attend and is a very committed revisionist.  So is the one other lay member I know personally.  The clergy, well, they are DioAla clergy.

[10] Posted by Kubla on 7-5-2010 at 09:18 PM · [top]

RE: “Just think how different things would be if Bishop Parsley had garnered those few extra votes needed to win the Presiding Bishop post.  He really was soooo close, if you will remember!”

Yep.  Word to you, MMTM.  That would have been like having Griswold.  We would all still be confused—but instead God blessed us with a crude, angry, bludgeoning PB, and the rest is history.  That election was truly a gift.

[11] Posted by Sarah on 7-5-2010 at 10:07 PM · [top]

“That election was truly a gift.”
And it’s the gift that keeps on giving, for sure.  I remember praying for clarity to come from the PB election, but never could have guessed we would be blessed with the overabundance given us from “our Bishop Katharine”!

#10 Kubla… I don’t share your opinion of the nominating committee.  It could have been a lot worse.  I think the Diocese as a whole is too far gone to expect anything better than another faux moderate to come out of this election, but it won’t be the nominating committee’s fault.  TEC is just too far gone to expect anything more.  I’ll be praying for clarity in this Bishop’s election too!

[12] Posted by more martha than mary on 7-6-2010 at 07:30 AM · [top]

“It reminds the larger church where we are in terms of valuing the gifts of all our members…”

Define his use of “Members” please…

[13] Posted by FrVan on 7-6-2010 at 03:18 PM · [top]

From re-reading this Bishop’s statement I think I am finally getting closer to an understanding of what the definition of “is” is.

[14] Posted by DaveG on 7-6-2010 at 04:04 PM · [top]

I’ve been waiting for the right place to share a few quotes.  Recently, Bp. Parsley made his last visit to our parish (St. Ostrich of the Unknowing, Uncaring and Mostly-Former-Baptists-Who-Don’t-Have-A-Clue-About-The-Concept-Of-A-Communion)  He “graciously” allowed time for us to ask questions.  There were very, very few but someone did ask about the relationship of the American church to the Anglican Communion.  His response was, “Well, it’s been strained but it’s getting better.”  Further on in that discussion, which was a lot like the quote above, he said, “We invented the Anglican Communion.  Did you know that?”

[15] Posted by Geosez on 7-9-2010 at 08:29 PM · [top]

I have to agree with #12.  I don’t think the deck is that highly stacked on the committee.  There are folks from Advent, St. Luke, and a former priest from Advent.  Also, there are a few others I know who might well be called moderate, but far from whom you’d ever catch up on the altar holding a stick with a dead bird on it and conjuring up Native American deities at a consecration service.

The laity have to ask the tough questions of the prospective candidates and tactfully yet doggedly stay on them until they give some sort of answer about where they stand.

[16] Posted by billqs on 7-10-2010 at 10:44 PM · [top]

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