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March 14, 2012

It’s Pat: Putting the ‘T’ in LGBT

It’s been a long-running joke around here, this alphabet soup served up by gay activists in the church to identify their movement: Years ago it was “LGB,” which we all understood to be “Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual.” Then they added a “T,” which we figured meant “transsexual” until we were corrected - no, the “T” didn’t stand just for post-operative transsexuals, but anyone, pre- or post-op, living the life of a gender opposite the one they were born into. Ah, so it stands for “trans-gender.” The letter “Q” has made a frequent appearance, which we’re told stands for “queer” - although we’re not allowed to call gay people “queer,” so we just refer to the “Q” the way pop music fans refer to the symbol Prince once used to identify himself - mainly a combination of hand signals, smirks and eye-rolling. The lower-case “i” would occasionally tag along, which we learned stood for “inquiring” or “inquisitive,” only I could never see that little “i” without thinking of the scene in “Stripes” in which Bill Murray and Harold Ramis, upon enlisting in the army, are asked if they are gay. They reply, “No, but we are willing to learn… would they send us someplace special?”

Anyway, where was I. Oh yeah:

A Tuolumne County woman was ordained as an Episcopalian deacon at a Saturday ceremony in Stockton, joining a small but growing group of transgender clergy members.

Carolyn Woodall, an attorney with the Tuolumne County Public Defender’s Office, was conferred the title in a ceremony at the Episcopal Church of St. Anne in Stockton, joined by dozens of church leaders, family members and friends.

imageShe will serve at St. Mary’s Episcopal Church in Jamestown, comprised mainly of local Episcopalians who stayed with the faith following a 2007 rift in the San Joaquin Diocese, which saw more-conservative members leave and join the Anglican Church of the Southern Cone of America.

Woodall called the ceremony “wonderful” and said she was “very relieved.”

“I’ve finally gotten past it,” she said.

The Rev. George Cano of St. Anne’s, who led Saturday’s sermon, said, “We know what it is being Christians in a prejudiced world,” adding that it took the division of the church to make the Episcopalian faith “truly inclusive.”

I just had to bold that last part, in case you had glazed over before you got to it. Ponder that idea for a moment.

The ordination of Woodall also served as another milestone:

Integrity USA announces the completion of principal photography on “Out of the Box” – another groundbreaking documentary in the award winning Voices of Witness series. “‘Out of the Box’” puts the “T” in LGBT by celebrating the work and witness of the transgender community,” said Louise Brooks, Integrity’s Communication Director and the Executive Producer of the project.

“This documentary film is a resource for both teaching and transformation,” said Brooks.  “It is Integrity’s gift to the Episcopal Church and will be accompanied by a study guide designed to equip and inform opinion leaders and decision makers as we prepare for General Convention 2012.” The filming, which culminated this weekend in Stockton, California, in the Diocese of San Joaquin, at a historic ordination of a transgender woman to the diaconate, now heads into the editing process.

“As we prepare for General Convention 2012.”


At least somebody is preparing for General Convention 2012. What’s your diocese doing to prepare for it?

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tsk, tsk, tsk

The letter “Q” has made a frequent appearance, which we’re told stands for “queer”

Greg.  I am so disappointed in you.  How could you put the letter Q in such a box?  Many feel the letter Q stands for Questioning.  Of course, that might make the I (or is it i) a little superfluous.  In the spirit of the letter Q, I think we should take it out of its box and explore the various meanings for this strange (dare I say queer) letter?

[1] Posted by Jackie on 3-14-2012 at 10:19 AM · [top]

I’m confused - it’s absolutely months until Hallowe’en!

[2] Posted by sophy0075 on 3-14-2012 at 10:25 AM · [top]

You’re both wrong, Q obviously stands for Queen. Does anyone have an encyclopedia?

[3] Posted by Matt Kennedy on 3-14-2012 at 10:31 AM · [top]

I’ll ask the question of my diocese of Central FL.  But I’m pretty sure I already know the answer because I’ve already asked when discussing the same gender blessings.

They’ll stand up against, but will be overwhelmingly shot down.

But remain silent as to what happens as a diocese when it’s rammed down our throats.

[4] Posted by The Lakeland Two on 3-14-2012 at 10:37 AM · [top]

Could it be ..... quash?

[5] Posted by Jackie on 3-14-2012 at 10:41 AM · [top]

No, no - wait - could it be why Louie calls himself Queen Lutibelle?  No that could not be because then Matt would be right and we know that cannot happen.

[6] Posted by Jackie on 3-14-2012 at 10:41 AM · [top]

You’ll have to excuse me while I purge my stomach of its contents after reading about this farce.

[7] Posted by cennydd13 on 3-14-2012 at 10:51 AM · [top]

Eyes rolling…

it took the division of the church to make the Episcopalian faith “truly inclusive.”

...by excluding the opposition of course.

[8] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 3-14-2012 at 10:54 AM · [top]

How about “Quite Fond of Musicals”?

[9] Posted by Matt Kennedy on 3-14-2012 at 10:56 AM · [top]

Yes, undergroundpewster, and this is precisely what has happened at every General Convention since 1973.  The opposition has been ignored, often shouted down, pilloried, roasted, portrayed as bigots, and in general denied their rights of free speech on the convention floor, as shown by KJS’ conduct towards Bishop Cox, I believe it was, when he was told to “shut up and sit down.”

[10] Posted by cennydd13 on 3-14-2012 at 11:01 AM · [top]

Well as far as the church goes, the sexual posturings of gray hippies were just the tip of one ugly iceberg.  So maybe the Q is theological - “Quislings”

[11] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 3-14-2012 at 11:05 AM · [top]

I wondered what this person in the article is - is it a he, a she? Is whatever it is what it was originally? I know it’s referred to as a “womsn,” but I was wodering if it was a woman originally or is supposed to be a woman now. I read the article and learned it was a man who’s now supposed to be a woman. How nice that her daughter is so proud of her! I think my kids would 1) throw up and 2) tell people they never met me, if I presented them with something like this. I guess they’re just terribly intolerant.

[12] Posted by Nellie on 3-14-2012 at 11:13 AM · [top]

Hmm, Timothy+.... how about Quasi?

[13] Posted by Jackie on 3-14-2012 at 11:16 AM · [top]

The Right Dishonorable Bob Moody was the first to have a transgendered deacon in of all places the Diocese of Oklahoma.

[14] Posted by via orthodoxy on 3-14-2012 at 11:31 AM · [top]

“It is Integrity’s gift to the Episcopal Church and will be accompanied by a study guide designed to equip and inform opinion leaders and decision makers as we prepare for General Convention 2012.”

Yes, by all means, let’s not “equip and inform leaders and decision makers” by presenting them with sound exegetical arguments.

Let’s do it by indoctrinating them with pictures of unconvincing transsexuals. That’s real equipment and information.

That’s also the essence of Christianity: not that Jesus Christ will free you from the bondage from sin, but that whatever sinful desires pop into your head define you. They’re inescapable and virtuous. You have no hope, so try to lie to yourself and convince yourself that evil is good and good is evil. Good luck.

[15] Posted by SpongJohn SquarePantheist on 3-14-2012 at 11:40 AM · [top]

Well if B means Bisexual, someone who is half gay and half straight, maybe Q stands “Quatra sexual”, someone who is gay 1/4th of the time? Every Wednesday perhaps?

[16] Posted by Matt Kennedy on 3-14-2012 at 12:03 PM · [top]

A quadrasexual is someone who will do anything for a quarter.
OK, so it’s a dumb joke, but you gave me the perfect set-up!

[17] Posted by Ralinda on 3-14-2012 at 12:16 PM · [top]

Q is for Queeg, cause his insanity speaks to them.

[18] Posted by Paula Loughlin on 3-14-2012 at 01:04 PM · [top]

Something is really bugging me. If i and Q are used together, like “iQ”, does it mean someone might be going hetro?

[19] Posted by Festivus on 3-14-2012 at 01:30 PM · [top]

@10:  Actually, it was Bishop David+ Reed who was on the receiving end of that comment.  I believe that, by the time of that episode, the action stating that Bishop Cox+ was deposed had been passed, and he could not have participated in a debate in the House of Bishops.

[20] Posted by KevinBabb on 3-14-2012 at 01:42 PM · [top]

I no longer speculate on what my diocese (South Carolina) may or may not do about future events. Consider this part of my lenten discipline.

[21] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 3-14-2012 at 02:18 PM · [top]

...was conferred the title in a ceremony…

That pretty much sums it up. It’s God who confers Holy Orders, not bishops. She…ummm, he…ummm, s/he now has the title.

The word “queer” is only pejorative if said by a heterosexual, in a certain tone of voice, to a homosexual. There’s even a book called “The Queer Bible Commentary.” You can take college courses in “Queer Studies” for credit.

What all this does is strengthen the ACNA Diocese of San Joaquin, and further weaken (if that’s possible) the LBGTiQMXYZPTLK-TEC pseudo-diocese. So be it.

[22] Posted by Ralph on 3-14-2012 at 02:32 PM · [top]

via orthodoxy
You are sort of correct.  Moody ordain Paul S., and I was the priest who supported Paul.  After two years as a deacon, Paul was seen in public, in the neighborhood he policed, dressed in women’s clothes.  Word got to the police department, and from someone in the police department, to me, his rector.  Our vestry decided to ask the bishop to remove him from our congregation.  I was summarily told by Moody that I and my congregation was less than Christian.  I was put on the spot in clergy meetings by Moody, and was told by the canon theologian to “obey my bishop.”  Shortly thereafter, I had the opportunity to leave Oklahoma for Colorado, Grace and St. Stephen’s with Don Armstrong.  I took it. 
Ironically, Moody ordered his deacon, now going by “Paula” to take a leave of absence, and to attend the cathedral.  Paula chose not to obey the bishop, but the bishop did nothing.  Paula was also playing the police against the diocese—they’re fine with it, why aren’t you?  Eventually, Paul had a “transition ceremony”, at church of the apostles in Moore OK.  That priest later left her husband for a woman.  I’M NOT MAKING THIS UP. 
Obviously, there’s more to the story, but it was told back in 2005.  Anyway, unless Moody ordained someone else who was “T”, he ordained Paul, and later, Paula forced himself on everyone.  Some of us said, “we love you, but no.”  The bishop said, “I’m disappointed in St. James, let’s let you get your life together, transition to Paula, and then we’ll find a place for you.”  Epic, Oklahoma LBGTQ FAIL of 2004-2005.

[23] Posted by Theron Walker✙ on 3-14-2012 at 03:34 PM · [top]

One can debate the extent of damage done by/represented in the objectively disordered inclinations that constitute bi/homosexuality.  The affliction represented by the “T” in the pop-formulation is an essentially different - and sadder - one.  Here, it is not the object of desire that is disordered, but the relation of the person to himself.  Here we see, as it were, a subjective (vice objective) disorder - not merely, as in fornication, involving a sin against one’s own body, but a thoroughgoing estrangement from it.

I think Dr. Paul McHugh of John Hopkins (those of you who attended the 2010 Mere Anglicanism conference will remember him) is right that this affliction is symptomatic of other disorders and hence medically changing the sufferer’s sex does nothing to relieve the actual mental problems.  Nevertheless, to be estranged so completely from one’s own body as to believe that one is of the opposite sex cannot but be excruciating. 

The GLBT movement (does one ever yearn for the days this might have meant “God-Lovin’ Bible-Totin’ Christians) offers these people nothing and, one can’t help but suspect, actively works to prevent - with all good intentions - at least some of them from getting needed treatment.  One more thing to pray for.

[24] Posted by Daniel Muth on 3-14-2012 at 03:47 PM · [top]

Remind me again why Donatism was considered a heresy?

[25] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 3-14-2012 at 06:04 PM · [top]

20.  Thank you, Kevin, for the clarification.  The fact that KJS said such a thing to Bishop Reid speaks volumes, doesn’t it?

[26] Posted by cennydd13 on 3-14-2012 at 06:42 PM · [top]

It’s obvious that Q stands for Querulous.

[27] Posted by The Little Myrmidon on 3-14-2012 at 07:29 PM · [top]

I’m confused.  It’s not politically correct to change your sexual orientation (e.g. homosexuals undergoing reparative therapy), but it is politically correct to change your gender.  Have I got it right?

[28] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 3-14-2012 at 08:49 PM · [top]

You got it Jill.  Very clever!

[29] Posted by Theron Walker✙ on 3-14-2012 at 11:18 PM · [top]

Shame, Nellie.
You apparently don’t care much for yourself.
Matthew 5:43-45

[30] Posted by Rob Eaton+ on 3-15-2012 at 01:58 AM · [top]

This is very enlightening. I thought the “T” was for tri-sexual.

[31] Posted by Don+ on 3-15-2012 at 04:45 AM · [top]

#28, it’s very politically correct to change your sexual orientation, as long as it’s from hetero to homo. One can cite a list of TEC homosexual activists who were married to a person of the opposite sex. Some had children. They went on to divorce, and shack up with a same-sex partner.

So, T can mean, “try homo-sex.” Live the dream. It can also mean, “Total depravity.”

[32] Posted by Ralph on 3-15-2012 at 07:22 AM · [top]

inquiring minds want to know, is Deacon Woodall a Transititional or a vocational deacon?

[33] Posted by Carpe DCN on 3-15-2012 at 08:22 AM · [top]

A friend of mine is the rector of the ACNA church in Stockton, and someone over there knew this poor guy, though he was stunned to hear that he was calling himself ‘she’.

TEC: The Ecclesiastic Circus! Coming to a town uncomfortably near you. [removed]void(0); What is sad is that TEC is endorsing self-loathing not for sin against Christ, but for how we are made.

Also, if I were TEC, I might not want to endorse genital mutilation either, which might put them in a hairy legal position one day. (If TEC can’t care for the apostolic gospel of Christ, then at least you would think they would care about covering their own tail.)

That said, who will offer truth and grace to this poor man if not the Church? But as we all know, the TEC institution is not really a church, but more of a shop that specializes in selling our own addictions back to us.

[34] Posted by All-Is-True on 3-15-2012 at 04:05 PM · [top]

Meanwhile, another gay priest has been nominated to replace Gene Robinson as Bishop of New Hampshire.  See here, via Titus OneNine.

With open, sexually-active “L"s and “G"s now common fixtures on slates of bishop nominees, I wonder how long it will be before the “B"s and “T"s are similarly common.  Given TEC’s impatience for its so-called “Gospel of Includsion,” my guess is it will be 2-3 years tops.  After all, the media has already grown tired of the gay bishops storyline, and TEC needs new ways to satiate its constant appetite for attention and relevance.

[35] Posted by Pigeon on 3-15-2012 at 04:58 PM · [top]


[36] Posted by Rob Eaton+ on 3-16-2012 at 01:41 AM · [top]

...don’t forget that, according to VGR, we have “just started” exploring all the letters…scary stuff.

I think it’s very sad to not love yourself as God created you to be.  I think that this also indicates this person has not accepted that God created him or her in His image; that He loves each of us as His special creation, and that His Son died for each of us, becoming sin, so we can be with Him for all eternity.

Call me crazy…

[37] Posted by B. Hunter on 3-20-2012 at 11:24 AM · [top]

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