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April 9, 2012

++Rowan: High Tide of New Atheism Has Passed

Rarely do I feel a need to defend Rowan Williams, but he’s really getting savaged by the atheists in the comments over at this Guardian article:

“Recent years have seen so many high-profile assaults on the alleged evils of religion that we’ve almost become used to them; we sigh and pass on, wishing that we could have a bit more of a sensible debate and a bit less hysteria. But there are a few signs that the climate is shifting ever so slightly,” he said at Canterbury cathedral.

Some sense from the archbishop? Yessss!!! I am STOKED, because I was thinking how AW DANG:

Contrasting the “hysteria” of “aggressive polemic against religious faith” with an increasing recognition among “serious and liberal-minded commentators”, he said faith was no longer seen as “a brainless and oppressive enemy” but recognised as a potential ally against a greedy and individualistic way of life that feels “increasingly insane”.

Translation: Hey everybody, let’s #Occupy Christianity!

Yes indeed, we sigh and pass on.

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Followed by the rising tide of indifference thanks to RW.

[1] Posted by Bill2 on 4-9-2012 at 04:28 PM · [top]

Rowan in his own way is well-meaning, and apparently quite a nice man to those who know him.  But he was manifestly not up to the job of LEADING a church.  Just as Frank Griswold was way out of his depth trying to lead TEC, even by his own twisted standards.

How could the CofE have got it so wrong back in 2003?

[2] Posted by MichaelA on 4-10-2012 at 06:27 AM · [top]


I would humbly suggest that it might have something to do, however slight, with it’s polity. Just as I would suggest that may be the vaunted polity of TEC which has acted as a contributor to that body’s “running off the rails.” Democracy, whether of the pure, republican or constitutional variety, seems to have some of the characteristics of a degenerative social disorder. This likely has some linkage to the concupiscence of humanity in general. I also seem to remember some old Greek chap noticed this rather a while back. I seem to recall his moniker was Aristotle.

Pax et bonum,
Keith Töpfer

[3] Posted by Militaris Artifex on 4-10-2012 at 10:26 AM · [top]

Now, now, Keith, I do think you are selling your own church a little short!

One of the things I do admire about the RCC is that the leader Il Papa is elected by a vote of the whole college of cardinals, who are drawn from across the world.  Perhaps that’s one of the reasons that the RCC has managed to elect a number of non-Italian popes, whereas the Anglican Communion is still (supposedly) led by an Englishman when its demographic centre is a long way from England.  I seriously think we could learn a lot from how our RC brethren chooses a Pope. 

Now I am really in trouble - good night!

[4] Posted by MichaelA on 4-10-2012 at 11:08 AM · [top]

The right hand giveth and the left hand taketh away.

[5] Posted by Jeffersonian on 4-10-2012 at 02:53 PM · [top]

Challenging when some of the “brightest” minds in the theoretical sciences are such anti-Christians (not just atheists, but actively anti-Christian). 

When the likes of Stephen Hawking declares on Page 1 of his new book “Philosophy (and by implication regligion) is Dead” you know you’ve got a fight on your hands.

Seems a bit late for RW to be finding a spine.


[6] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 4-12-2012 at 11:53 AM · [top]

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