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November 17, 2012

Posing with a deer the other guy shot

The American Humanist Association has a “kids without God” thingy going on. 

They have this new billboard going up here and there.

Here’s what I think:

The teen years are well known as a season of questioning and rejecting.  Teens dabble in and change beliefs (or ignore them altogether) like they change hand-held devices.  (I was going to say “as often as they change shirts, but at least with boys that’s not always very frequent.)  Teens stretch toward adulthood by differentiating from parents, and part of that experimental process is doubting and challenging received stuff that was there “because my parents said so.”

So when the American Humanist Association puffs up and proclaims that teens all across the land are responding to a “doubt and questioning” campaign, it is a lot like me posing with a deer shot by some other hunter, then posting the picture all over Facebook as my own achievement.

Cynical bullcrap, in other words. 

Ahh, the American Humanists.  Great intellects and moral giants, every blessed one.


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It would be nice if they could present the rest of their argument, so I can decide whether this is circular reasoning or simply a false anology.

Is the argument which this slogan represents the following:

1) God resembles an imaginary friend in many respects
2) Imaginary friends don’t exist
3) God doesn’t exist.

Or the following:

1a) Any experience of God is just a figment of the imagination
1b) God is said to be a friend of those who believe in him
2a) I’m too old to have imaginary friends
2b) What I believe is true (or the worse “true for me”)
3) I don’t believe in God
4) God doesn’t exist
And it follows from 4) that
5) Any purported experience of God must just be a figment of the imagination


Of course, if this poster is not intended to summarise a rational argument, then it is just an attempt to sway people through mere emotional power, something I am sure that my humanist friends will in general disapprove of.

So for any right-thinking person, this poster and slogan should draw people away from humanism. (Following the standard ‘Is that the best you’ve got? Then I’m joining the opposition’ principle—although admittedly this slogan isn’t the best that humanists have got, but it is what they have chosen to present.) Sadly, given the state of the educational system, I suspect that the number of people who will approach this rationally is fairly small.

[1] Posted by Boring Bloke on 11-17-2012 at 07:11 PM · [top]

“Following the standard ‘Is that the best you’ve got? Then I’m joining the opposition’”

LOL good point, #1.  The sign’s “logic” is indeed more “juvenile” than the girl in the picture!

[2] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 11-18-2012 at 06:28 AM · [top]

Snarky responses:

“You imagine that these people are your friends?”


“These people imagine that they are your friends?”

[3] Posted by Andrew W on 11-18-2012 at 07:36 PM · [top]

I’m getting a bit old to let t-shirt and bumper sticker slogans determine my deepest personal beliefs.

[4] Posted by Ecclesiastes 1:18 on 11-19-2012 at 08:58 AM · [top]

Sadley they will find fertile soil with their campaign, teens often reject their parents beliefs as a matter of course and this gives them the vocabulary to do so.

[5] Posted by sandraoh on 11-23-2012 at 05:52 PM · [top]

But of course we all know that…sigh

[6] Posted by sandraoh on 11-23-2012 at 05:53 PM · [top]

I believe in God, so therefore, according to these people, that means that I’m a mental midget, right?

[7] Posted by cennydd13 on 11-23-2012 at 06:15 PM · [top]

Andrew #3 - we need to hire you for our billboard campaign.

#4 Hiring you, too.  LOL.

sandraoh #s 5 & 6 - that’s just it.  We all know it to be the case.  So this humanist group is simply posing on the deer that was shot by some other hunter.

#7 So are we all!  Basic Freudian stuff, you see, all religion is an illusion used to cope with our neuroses.  They don’t have any - deterministic forces are only at in those with whom secular determinists disagree.

[8] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 11-23-2012 at 06:28 PM · [top]

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