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January 28, 2013

Nutjob Presiding Bishop Likens Mark Lawrence to Adam Lanza

And now… mental illness:

I tell you that story because it’s indicative of attitudes we’ve seen here and in many other places.  Somebody decides he knows the law, and oversteps whatever authority he may have to dictate the fate of others who may in fact be obeying the law, and often a law for which this local tyrant is not the judge.  It’s not too far from that kind of attitude to citizens’ militias deciding to patrol their towns or the Mexican border for unwelcome visitors.  It’s not terribly far from the state of mind evidenced in school shootings, or in those who want to arm school children, or the terrorism that takes oil workers hostage.

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Those darn people who act according to their conscience in obedience to the law, instead of just asking Katharine what they should do.

[1] Posted by Michael D on 1-28-2013 at 12:29 PM · [top]

Yeah, funny how you’re an Adam-Lanza-type lunatic, or “a bold, prophetic witness,” depending on which side of Christian orthodoxy you stand.

[2] Posted by Greg Griffith on 1-28-2013 at 12:47 PM · [top]

She apparently feels the TEC is one of many “human communities.” We finally agree on something.

[3] Posted by Pb on 1-28-2013 at 12:59 PM · [top]

This is bizarre.  Comparing Bishop Lawrence to mentally ill school shooters or fanatic Muslim terrorists is crazy.  She is losing her grip on reality.  And where has she read that people want “to arm school children”? The closest I can come to that is a proposal I saw to permit 21-year-old or older university students who have concealed carry permits to have their firearms on campus.  Are those “school children”?

Preaching a “sermon” in which she demonizes her opposition while claiming she wants “reconciliation” is hardly likely to improve the situation.  It is especially foolish since her own behavior in this case has been an example of the “petty Decider” she decries.

[4] Posted by Katherine on 1-28-2013 at 01:03 PM · [top]

Hmmmm. Demonizing one’s opponents and seeking reconciliation. Where have we heard that? If she keeps talking like that, she will end up on the White House staff.

[5] Posted by Pb on 1-28-2013 at 01:16 PM · [top]

Truly bizarre and full of hate.  Does she not learn? The decisions were made by a group (ie the elected delegates of the Diocese of South Carolina).  I guess if she does not agree with the decisions of the group, she can come in and call the leader (Bishop Lawrence) a petty decider and tyrant then begin to claim ownership of everything, defy all court orders and still claim to be a shepherd of the flock.  Look who is the tyrant now! She is definitely irrational! She needs a come to Jesus moment in the worst way.

[6] Posted by SC blu cat lady on 1-28-2013 at 01:17 PM · [top]

Does she not hear herself when she talks? She really, really, REALLY needs to say these things in her head first.

[7] Posted by trimom on 1-28-2013 at 01:31 PM · [top]

I call “BS” on her whole message about allowing others to “walk apart” - SHE has gone after those who agree with the Bible and disagree with her with a scorched-earth policy.  And she WILL NOT SELL any properties that she has forcibly taken to any Anglican congregation - in fact she has sold them to Muslims rather than to Anglicans.

...and how many lawsuits has she filed in the past 7 years?  75-80?  Hmmm…

I guess we really know what “PB” stands for, huh.  wink

She and Obama are definately cut from the same cloth…accuse others of doing what you are ACTUALLY doing in order to take heat off your actions.  Typical liberals - wouldn’t know truth if it hit them in the face.

[8] Posted by B. Hunter on 1-28-2013 at 01:31 PM · [top]

“Two thumbs down” score for the P.B.‘s homily in the view of this sermon critic.

“petty Deciders or wolves who masquerade as sheep” (to quote +KJS)

At least we now have in writing how she feels about the clergy in DSC.

One of my Facebook foes posted a link to this sermon with the comment,

“The sermon truly embodies Christ’s commandment - Love your neighbors as yourself!”

With loving neighbors like that who needs enemies?

[9] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 1-28-2013 at 01:53 PM · [top]

What I find interesting about how the Episcopal Church thinks and speaks through its leaders is how manifestly pagan and anti-Christian it is.  The only difference I see between these folks and out-and-out hatetheists is they try to paint a veneer of Christianity on themselves to fool other folks.

[10] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 1-28-2013 at 01:55 PM · [top]

Fr Albert Cutié - Brilliant! As always…

Nice to see this guy again. . .
Seems to have found his home since he was photographed violating his vows as a Catholic priest while frolicking with a parishioner on the beach.

[11] Posted by paradoxymoron on 1-28-2013 at 02:15 PM · [top]

She speaks like the serpent in the Garden of Eden.

She did recognize “the Jesus movement” this time, probably because there might have been some Christians in the audience and she wanted to be inclusive.

[12] Posted by Dr. N. on 1-28-2013 at 02:28 PM · [top]

If the PB feels this way about +Mark Lawrence, I’m not sure I want to know what she thinks about ++Robert Duncan.

[13] Posted by the virginian on 1-28-2013 at 02:40 PM · [top]

Hmmm, she provided some of the best hypocrisy I’ve seen in quite a while.  The excoriation is so dense, she ran out of room for a sermon. 

The legal disadvantage must be really gnawing at her, as she lets slip:

“Somebody decides he knows the law, and oversteps whatever authority he may have to dictate the fate of others who may in fact be obeying the law, and often a law for which this local tyrant is not the judge…  It’s not terribly far from the state of mind evidenced in school shootings, or in those who want to arm school children, or the terrorism that takes…” real estate or other assets from me! - the Presiding Bishop! 


[14] Posted by tired on 1-28-2013 at 02:48 PM · [top]

WOW- Reading this is like reading <i>The Screwtape Letters<i>.

[15] Posted by Hosanna on 1-28-2013 at 04:16 PM · [top]

Typical Progressive Liberal “shpeak”...Can’t win the argument so demonize the opponent, and hype the emotions.

[16] Posted by aacswfl1 on 1-28-2013 at 04:42 PM · [top]

She has her legacy and this is it - exemplifying in her behavior and actions what she alleges to others.  Later generations will not be fooled but will call her clearly with great documentation “thou hypocrite”.

[17] Posted by dwstroudmd+ on 1-28-2013 at 04:55 PM · [top]

If she’s being guided by the spiritual forces that I think might be guiding her, then her destiny is indeed insanity. It begins in the Kehlsteinhaus, goes to the Wolfsschanze, and always ends in the Verfuehrerinbunker.

The events of this weekend in Charleston might well be a turning point in the war. Nobody can pretend that TEC did anything other than to form an entirely new diocese, and install its very first bishop.

May God rebuke her, and the forces guiding her.

[18] Posted by Ralph on 1-28-2013 at 05:00 PM · [top]

“Nut Job”?  No.  Agent of Satan.  And no one will EVER convince me otherwise.

[19] Posted by midwestnorwegian on 1-28-2013 at 05:47 PM · [top]


Please, no disparaging remarks about CS Lewis, he’s the man.  Particularly with the many ST adaptations on VOL over the years.


[20] Posted by Fr. Chip, SF on 1-28-2013 at 09:55 PM · [top]

Fr Chip, SF:

I’d say Hosanna was not disparaging CS Lewis, but admiring his ability to describe Screwtape’s doings.

[21] Posted by maineiac on 1-28-2013 at 10:58 PM · [top]

Fr Chip and maineiac,
maineiac you are correct. My point is that CS Lewis’s accurate and insightful portrayal of how the enemy deceives and manipulates in order to achieve his desired results is similarly demonstrated by the PB in her “sermon”. Screwtape would probably give her performance at Grace Church high marks.

[22] Posted by Hosanna on 1-28-2013 at 11:32 PM · [top]

In this sermon, Mrs Shori is psychologically ‘projecting’ (her own feelings, wishes, motives onto Bishop Lawrence) which is a symptom of mental disorder and illness.

In this sermon, she has ‘jumped the shark’.  A growing number of people are now quite aware of her political agenda, as well as her spiritual and psychological condition. 

This woman is now officially a Jezebel, the Biblical term for one who promotes sexual immorality in the Church.

The MCJ calls this ideology, ‘Spongianity’ and the organization ‘The Spongian Church, Realty Company and Sex Emporium.’

The Bible calls it a synagogue of satan and a den of serpents.

[23] Posted by St. Nikao on 1-29-2013 at 07:09 AM · [top]

Just a few things:  don’t eat food that’s been blessed in pagan rites, and don’t eat meat from strangled animals or that still has blood in it.

Um…I think there was one other thing that the Jerusalem Council decided that she did not include.  You can find the whole thing in Acts 15 if you are so inclined.  I know it’s a bit off topic to point it out, but it is indicative of the mindset of the PB.  Make up facts if you can’t find any to support your position.  Ignore facts if they do not support your position.  Under no circumstances can you ever admit that someone who disagrees with you might have a valid point of view.

[24] Posted by observer145 on 1-29-2013 at 09:37 AM · [top]

#24 Observer145,

Yeah, I was just reading that verse not five seconds ago. In the KJV the word is “fornication”. Now that is a word that the revisionists have twisted around in order to obfuscate its meaning for years now. I guess she was still reluctant to include it. That may mean that it has not been entirely stripped of its meaning.

[25] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 1-29-2013 at 09:53 AM · [top]

Does any rational person doubt that the Bishop with the most complaints against him/her on Clayton Matthews’+ desk is not Mark Lawrence+ (or the other 9 bishops who dared to break ranks on the Fort Worth or Quincy cases, etc.) but Katharine Jefferts Schori?

[26] Posted by All-Is-True on 1-29-2013 at 10:29 AM · [top]

#23, Yes, she’s jumped the shark. This was completely inappropriate, spiteful, delusional, etc.

But the problem is, I thought that about the way the liberal media was frothing at the mouth during the last election ... and they won. Alinsky was right, this tactic seems to work in the long run.

Maybe that has given Schori the courage to take this approach?

I don’t know. Any English people here remember an old 80’s sitcom called the “Young Ones”? It featured Rik Mayall, a Marxist idiot, always spewing bile, a clueless, pampered narcissistic ideologue? Despite those decades of warning, “Ricks” that are clones of the original “Rik” have become the norm today, not only with media people like Jon Stewart and Chris Matthews, but with clerics like Katharine Jefferts-Schori.

Amazing all the prophetic warnings we’ve had over the years, and somehow still managed to ignore them. The pigs have won.

[27] Posted by SpongJohn SquarePantheist on 1-29-2013 at 10:44 AM · [top]

The Presiding Autobiographer sheds crocodile tears for a man caught in the government’s disregard of the Fourth Amendment: 

“the local police wanted him to land.  He landed at the Hartsville airport to discover a dozen police cars waiting for him.  The local constabulary insisted that he had been flying in a no-fly zone.  The pilot got out his charts and showed the officer that there was no such thing indicated on his chart.  The officer arrested him, handcuffed him, and took him to jail.  He was not permitted to phone the business from which he’d rented the glider that morning.  They’d begun to worry, because he was well overdue.  Eventually the plane’s owner heard from the FBI and Homeland Security that the pilot was in jail, for “breach of peace.”  The Darlington County police kept this 70 year old man in jail for more than 24 hours, in a tiny cell with a dozen others, with no more than a dirty blanket.”

Silly girl.  Don’t you know that people don’t have rights?  And that it is up to their betters to decide if they need silly things like due-process? 

Why bless my stars, you of all great leaders, should know that. 



[28] Posted by J Eppinga on 1-29-2013 at 12:49 PM · [top]

“It’s not terribly far from the state of mind evidenced in school shootings, or in those who want to arm school children, or the terrorism that takes oil workers hostage.”

So, +Mark Lawrence is to be compared with mass-murderers and terrorists.

I have to agree - with Greg Griffith: “nutjob” is an entirely fair way to describe Mrs Katherine Jefferts Schori. 

“Complete loony” would also be appropriate.

What a waste of space this woman is.

[29] Posted by MichaelA on 1-29-2013 at 04:47 PM · [top]

MichaelA -

Puh-LEEZE!!!!  Loons are one of the most wonderful birds at lakes/coves.  Fantastic vocals, delightful to hear.  And impressive appearance!

Methinks they differ pretty radically from KJS.

[30] Posted by maineiac on 1-29-2013 at 10:56 PM · [top]

What we are witnessing is not so much a lunatic, as one who has been driven to inexpressible rage by having received on her own end that which she regularly dishes out to others. In other words, she cannot stand a dose of her own medicine, and it literally drives her crazy, so that she is unable to control her tongue.

+Mark Lawrence beat her into the South Carolina courts, and thereby gained a significant advantage on her. Until this moment, her entire Machiavellian program has hinged upon taking the initiative, by freezing the renegade diocese’s bank accounts and by stealing its identity—then coming into court and pretending to be the same diocese that voted to leave.

But +Lawrence’s pre-emptive strike put an end to that strategy. Now Bishop Jefferts Schori has no first-move advantage, but must labor under the burden of proving that the remnant Episcopalians are something that they are not. And the fact that Bishop Lawrence stole the march on her has her in a spitting snit fit that is wholly unbecoming of an Anglican primate.

The continued fawning over her appearance in SC by those Episcopalians who own her as their leader is, to say the least, dispiriting. They cannot recognize what a shrew is setting the Church’s current tone in the Anglican Communion. And because they cannot (or will not) do so, they are fated to share her destiny: to play a willing part in the drama by which she shrinks ECUSA into an insignificant role in the worldwide Anglican Communion, and an even more minuscule role among churches in general. By continuing to enable her, they shall reap what they have sown.

In the end (but perhaps long after the current debacle), her own bitterness will poison the well of her erstwhile supporters. No one backs a harridan for long (without extraordinary pay to divert one’s own eyes). And what we in ECUSA have for a leader is just that: a harridan.

[31] Posted by A. S. Haley on 1-30-2013 at 01:11 AM · [top]

With all due respect, Mr. Haley, people have been backing the Harridan in Chief, Hillary, for quite some time now.  And will probably continue to do so into the foreseeable future.

[32] Posted by Ann Castro on 1-30-2013 at 08:36 AM · [top]

Hillary also used the Shori/Alinsky tactic in her comments at the Benghazi hearing…equating the GOP with terrorists, etc.

The progressives and their media mouthpieces also call the TEA Party terrorist, racist and other slurs in the best Alinsky style. 

Yet, they adored and praised the destructive, vile, criminals, druggies, rapists hired (by the left) to pose as Occupy protesters.

The Obama crowd labels anyone who disagrees with his agenda racist, terrorist, partisan, etc.

In reality, the leftists are projecting their own character, wishes, actions and motives to their opponents.

[33] Posted by St. Nikao on 1-30-2013 at 09:40 AM · [top]

With regard to the “mental health” of Bishop Lawrence, I recall that xSchori made him repeat his psychological exam during her original attempt to dispose of him.  She is shameless.

[34] Posted by Nikolaus on 1-31-2013 at 08:29 PM · [top]

I don’t know what’s more pathetically lacking…her theology, her “leadership,” her understanding of police policy and procedure, or her interpretation of 200 years of case law.  In fact, sheep like her are exactly why soldiers and law enforcement officers are called to their task by God.  Rough men and women are willing to deal daily with the depravity that would cause liberal intellectual left-wing seminary-dwelling half-theist pussycats to call 911 in tears upon first view after losing control of their bladders.

[35] Posted by RevRL on 2-18-2013 at 08:03 PM · [top]

Anyone, watching the speech, I noticed that Grace just called the Reverend John Zahl as an Associate Rector. Is that Paul’s son? Was Grace always in the “liberal” camp or was the congregation divided?

[36] Posted by Going Home on 2-18-2013 at 11:42 PM · [top]

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