March 26, 2017

March 13, 2013

No Communion for Pro-Abortion Politicians?

Rut Roh - Nancy and Joe aren’t going to be happy.

In the Aparecida Document, a document that represents a joint statement by Latin American church leaders but presented by Francis in 2007, the leaders stated, “we should commit ourselves to ‘eucharistic coherence,’ that is, we should be conscious that people cannot receive holy communion and at the same time act or speak against the commandments, in particular when abortions, euthanasia, and other serious crimes against life and family are facilitated. This responsibility applies particularly to legislators, governors, and health professionals.”

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A lot of American “Catholics” aren’t going to be happy! What a shame! Viva il Papa!

[1] Posted by Nellie on 3-13-2013 at 08:58 PM · [top]

Not gonna hold my breath.  Unless they receive official letters of excommunication, all the pro-abort politicos will continue to declare themselves “devout Catholics” until they’re blue in the face.  Would their local bishops and priests have the stones to deny them Holy Communion if they show up at the rail?

An honest Biden or Pelosi would voluntarily refrain because they’re clearly in violation of both the letter and spirit of what a RC should believe and act on, but I don’t think they have much scruples in this matter.

[2] Posted by Bill2 on 3-13-2013 at 10:24 PM · [top]

Yes, that’s the question, Bill2. As for an honest Biden or Pelosi - that’s an oxymoron!

[3] Posted by Nellie on 3-13-2013 at 10:59 PM · [top]

I sure hope they do this.  How in the world can someone call themselves a “Devout Catholic” and at the same time spit on the Church’s teachings.

For that matter how can we Anglicans call our selves Christians while spitting on the Gospel?

[4] Posted by Br. Michael on 3-14-2013 at 05:03 AM · [top]

T’would be justice, social and divine justice indeed, if the new Pope refused an audience with hypocrite Biden and the Americans who come as representatives of hypocrite Obama’s brutally anti-Life administration.

Obama had this to say about the election of Pope Francis, “As a champion of the poor and the most vulnerable among us, he carries forth the message of love and compassion that has inspired the world for more than two thousand years—that in each other we see the face of God.”

From a man whose policies have created 8 million jobless Americans, 11,000 per day new food stamp applicants and who has voted for the extermination of the most helpless Americans, unborn babies, even third-trimester pre-born infants, and the defender and apologist for the brutal misogynist, racist hate group Islam, Obama’s statement shows a pathological level of anosognosia, spiritual understanding and moral conscience, to say the least. 

Besides denial and hypocrisy, Obama is also without equal in unconstitutional usurpation of powers, lies, cronyism, debt, spending and a number of other negative categories.

[5] Posted by St. Nikao on 3-14-2013 at 09:20 AM · [top]

Tricky question.  As Head of State, receiving a formal visit from Vice-President Biden in his capacity as representing the American government, refusing to see him could be interpreted as snubbing the U.S.A.

Wait for the howls of protest about shoving religion into politics, about the representation of non-Christians and non-theists, about separating the man from the office, and especially about being anti-liberal and pro-fascism (oh, yes, they’ve already started with that one); let me quote you a reaction comment about his election from an avowed atheist commenter on a blog I frequent:

Yes, it does. It means he is a reactionary bigot, who supported and colluded with a right wing military junta. Meet the new boss…

Refusing to meet the Vice-President and/or the Minority Leader of the House of Representatives would mean he is a right-wing quasi-fascist bigot and zealot who wants to crush all dissent and force all women everywhere to be barefoot, pregnant, illiterate and dead of childbearing by the time they’re thirty, as well as extirpating LGBT people and leaving Africans to die of AIDS.  Didn’t you know that?

[6] Posted by Martha on 3-14-2013 at 10:09 AM · [top]

I would meet with him - but find a way to ensure the veep clearly understands how he is violating God’s plans.  And I wouldn’t give him communion until the repents.

[7] Posted by B. Hunter on 3-14-2013 at 10:38 AM · [top]

Yes, B. Hunter.  As head of the Vatican state, he’d need to give Biden an audience.  He could use the opportunity to give him a piece of his mind about the attack on the Catholic Church in the U.S.  And I would very much like to see him instruct Biden personally not to approach the sacrament until he repents of his public anti-life and anti-church stances.

[8] Posted by Katherine on 3-14-2013 at 11:33 AM · [top]

You are right, Martha, B. Hunter and as always, Katherine.  He should meet with the American party and warn them not to present themselves for communion or ex-communicate them (is that the same thing?) until they repent.

Correction to my comment above:
“Obama’s statement shows a pathological level of anosognosia, *a lack of* spiritual understanding and moral conscience, to say the least.”

[9] Posted by St. Nikao on 3-14-2013 at 04:39 PM · [top]

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