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June 3, 2013

SBC Expected to Disaffiliate with Boy Scouts


While those in support of the new-found policy are frustrated that gay leaders are still not permitted to take part, others who oppose the amendment believe that the group is abandoning its Christian heritage. Among the denominations that may cut off support for the Scouts is the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC).

Church leaders, according to CNN, are planning to urge the religious order’s 45,000 congregations and 16 million members to officially cut ties with the Boy Scouts. Considering that 4,000 units are currently sponsored by the SBC, this would be a monumental loss for the organization — one that would impact 100,000 young men who participate through this denomination.

This month, the SBC plans to vote on a non-binding resolution at a convention in Houston. The effort will take place on June 11 or 12. And the provision, according to insiders, has a good chance of passing.

“There’s a 100% chance that there will be a resolution about disaffiliation at the convention and a 100% chance that 99% of people will vote for it,” Richard Land, head of the Southern Baptists’ Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, told CNN. “Southern Baptists are going to be leaving the Boy Scouts en masse.”


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The National Catholic Committee on Scouting is taking a more wait-and-see approach. However, as I explain here, the new membership policy does not violate the letter of Catholic teachings on homosexuality, the practical implementation of the policy while staying true to Church teaching is going to be near impossible.

[1] Posted by DJH on 6-3-2013 at 02:52 PM · [top]

Royal Ambassadors is a scouting-type program readily available to members of the SBC to replace BSA programs if they opt out.

This program was quite formative in my youth and I am grateful for the men in my church who undertook to be leaders for the RA group.

[2] Posted by dwstroudmd+ on 6-3-2013 at 03:01 PM · [top]

The fix, unfortunately, is already in - “inclusion advocate” organizations have already stated that as soon as this is implemented in January, and once they are assured “no bullying” is occurring anywhere, they will begin the push for full inclusion of gay adult leaders: it is just not fair for gay Scouts to have to quit at age 18, when they are no longer eligible to be youth members. As Fr. Matt+ so clearly pointed out in another context, the camel’s nose is already in the tent.

I have already advised my Scouting colleagues that I cannot in good conscience continue to support the BSA, and that my family and I will not continue as leaders or members, as the BSA has deserted us.

[3] Posted by Tom S. on 6-3-2013 at 04:05 PM · [top]

I’m sure the Episcopagan sect will open wide the doors and MORE than make up for this loss.

Hardeeee Harrrr Harrrr.

[4] Posted by midwestnorwegian on 6-3-2013 at 04:30 PM · [top]

I’m not sure as a percentage how large the SBC scouting troops are as compared to the BSA as a whole.  Growing up, I had always thought it was heavily Mormon or that many of the troops were sponsored by the LDS church (but I grew up in the West).  I notice the LDS church is not leaving and cynically, I suspec the BSA got their buy-in before the change because their departure would have been monumental.  The SBC, perhaps not so much.

[5] Posted by Matthew on 6-3-2013 at 04:44 PM · [top]

Is there a reason the LDS have done a 180-degree turn on gays and gay marriage?
(Cynically I figure it may have more to do with the whole destruction of marriage between one man and ONE woman—but again I’m just cynical I suppose).

[6] Posted by Dave NOT in Dallas on 6-3-2013 at 05:12 PM · [top]

“I’m sure the Episcopagan sect will open wide the doors and MORE than make up for this loss.”

You are a very funny man, midwestnorwegian.

[7] Posted by Ed the Roman on 6-3-2013 at 06:39 PM · [top]

Don’t bet on it Ed #7. We haven’t had any boy scouts in our Episcopal church in 10 years.

I think I will finally toss out my scout master uniform…

[8] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 6-3-2013 at 09:43 PM · [top]

I know a music director at an Episcopal church nearby. There aren’t enough Scout age boys for a patrol.

[9] Posted by Ed the Roman on 6-4-2013 at 07:10 AM · [top]

In the more serious vein, there are people who are not willing to kick a boy out for being confused who are quite willing to exclude gay men from leadership: that would be most of the adult leadership in my troop under the age of 70.

I would rather they had not changed the policy, because I think that almost no boys were being expelled before for being gay who had not been put up to a declaration by parents, and the people who really, REALLY wanted the change will not be sated until there is gay sensitivity and acceptance training for Tiger Cubs. Maybe the new policy is a defensible line, and maybe it’s not. I will have to try.

[10] Posted by Ed the Roman on 6-4-2013 at 07:18 AM · [top]

What else can Christians do but leave? The other side has drawn the battle lines. Not us. They know what mainline church teachings are and they are challenging us to compromise. It’s all sad and terrible for our children.

[11] Posted by Gloria Upson on 6-6-2013 at 12:43 PM · [top]

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