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June 25, 2013


Jimmy Carter, Theologian Without Portfolio

Noted Roman Catholic theologian Jimmy Carter, fresh from his latest scourging of Israel (or whatever he’s doing to grab attention these days) weighs in during on interview with Time on a subject that has the entire Church in turmoil:

Time: Let’s get right to it. This week the Carter Center’s Mobilizing Faith for Women conference will ask the question, “Can religion be a force for women’s rights instead of a source of women’s oppression?” What’s your answer?

Carter: Well, religion can be, and I think there’s a slow, very slow, move around the world to give women equal rights in the eyes of God. What has been the case for many centuries is that the great religions, the major religions, have discriminated against women in a very abusive fashion and set an example for the rest of society to treat women as secondary citizens. In a marriage or in the workplace or wherever, they are discriminated against. And I think the great religions have set the example for that, by ordaining, in effect, that women are not equal to men in the eyes of God.

This has been done and still is done by the Catholic Church ever since the third century, when the Catholic Church ordained that a woman cannot be a priest for instance but a man can. A woman can be a nurse or a teacher but she can’t be a priest. This is wrong, I think. As you may or may not know, the Southern Baptist Convention back now about 13 years ago in Orlando, voted that women were inferior and had to be subservient to their husbands, and ordained that a woman could not be a deacon or a pastor or a chaplain or even a teacher in a classroom in some seminaries where men are in the classroom, boys are in the classroom. So my wife and I withdrew from the Southern Baptist Convention primarily because of that.

Time: What Scripture guides your work on women’s rights?

Carter: The one that I look on most is the Letter from Paul to the Galatians, when he says there is no difference in the eyes of God between a man and a woman, and between a slave and a master, or between a Jew and a Gentile, they are all created in the eyes of God equally. That’s a primary verse.

But there are a lot of them, for instance if you look at some of the verses I think in Romans, I can’t remember exactly, maybe Acts, or Romans in the 16th chapter, Paul delineates a lot of top leaders in the church and about a third of them are women. So I think in the original status of the Christian church, women played a very important role, even in the leadership role. And then after about the third century when men took over control of the Catholic Church, then they began to ordain that women had to play an inferior position, not be a priest.

So there you have it, folks, straight from the horse’s ass mouth. Is there anything that the Most Self-Righteous Person to Ever Be President of the United States can’t fix, based on his all-encompassing understanding of all areas of human knowledge and endeavor?


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Your list of “withouts” for Mr. Carter is breathtakingly stunning in its brevity. You have inappropriately (aind incorrectly) omitted a large number of fairly obvious candidates, not the least of which are:

• a fully functioning brain;
• two full halves of wit;
• a number of senses, prominent among the missing being both “good” and “common.”

The list could go on, but I have already spent far too much of my valuable time in enumerating the short list above.

Pax et bonum;
Keith Töpfer

[1] Posted by Militaris Artifex on 6-25-2013 at 12:56 PM · [top]

Mr. Carter’s beliefs reflect more the current negative worldview of the ancient and historic Church than the reality of the matter. I was waiting for him to say something about the Church supporting slavery and oppressing the LGBQT, but I guess he was saving that for another audience.

[2] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 6-25-2013 at 02:00 PM · [top]

It is hard for me to determine which is worse, is presidency or ignorant comments following his inept presidency.

[3] Posted by Fr. Dale on 6-25-2013 at 06:52 PM · [top]

#3 Fr. Dale, What is worse would be to read one of his books in Sunday school (yep, it was done).

[4] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 6-25-2013 at 07:13 PM · [top]

Point of Fact:

Jimmy Carter has never “withdrawn from the Southern Baptist Convention” in anything but words. He is still a member of a congregation affiliated with the SBC, so he is affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention. There is no other measure for being affiliated with the SBC as an individual. IIRC, even ordained pastors hold their credentials with a particular congregation, not with the regional or national conventions. He has neither left that congregation nor have I seen any news that he persuaded the congregation to withdraw its affiliation. So all his talk about having left is at best empty symbolism.

[5] Posted by K-W on 6-25-2013 at 07:24 PM · [top]

Whoever thought Billy would end up being the smart one?

[6] Posted by Nikolaus on 6-25-2013 at 08:13 PM · [top]

I wonder what he thinks happened in the third century.  I wonder what he thinks a priest is, vis-a-vis “leadership” and sacramental ministry. I wonder if he has a clue about the strong women leaders throughout Catholic history who were too busy serving Christ to worry about ordination. Heck, I’ve known a few Baptist women who could probably stand toe to toe with Catherine of Sienna and they would have told old Jimmuh to tend his peanuts.

[7] Posted by Words Matter on 6-25-2013 at 09:44 PM · [top]

Fr. Dale [3],

Ignorant comments are worthy of being ignored. The President is hard to ignore when he has the power of the pen to impose legislation upon the populace. He has been reduced, by his own public statements, to no more than a clanging cymbal. That, IMHO, is far, far easier to ignore than were his actions as President.

Pax et bonum,
Keith Töpfer

[8] Posted by Militaris Artifex on 6-26-2013 at 09:18 AM · [top]

It’s a mystery to me how someone who is such a failure in everything he tries to do can continue to have such a high opinion of himself. Jimmy Carter wouldn’t make a pimple on the butt of an intelligent human being. He needs to retire to his peanut farm, which I’ll be someone else manages, and just keep shut.

[9] Posted by desertpadre on 6-26-2013 at 12:30 PM · [top]

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