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October 4, 2016

New Zealand FCA make Submission to Same-Sex Blessing Working Group

As we’ve previously reported, the Anglican Church in New Zealand is pushing ahead with same-sex blessings. A final vote in favour is expected in 2018. In the meantime they have formed a working group (albeit already well behind schedule) and invited submissions.

FCANZ have made one such submission. They note,

Regretfully, we are unconvinced that a single structure can safeguard both theological convictions with integrity, and so have suggested that the best way forward for our Church is the creation of an extra-provincial diocese.

The full submission is available here [pdf].

  FCANZ Submission by David Ould on Scribd

The submission notes that it is difficult to see two contrary positions as being sustainable within the same structure and thus makes it recommendation to set up an extra-provincial diocese (“EPD”). This EPD could be for either conservatives or revisionists (although I think the underlying assumption is that it will be required by those dissenting from the expected decision of General Synod, especially since in New Zealand ordination vows include submission to General Synod. Then there is this intriguing line:

We consider that it would be preferable for General Synod to bring the EPD into existence, recognising that there are other ways that this might happen. Indeed, even by opening this discussion about structural change, General Synod is offering leadership to the worldwide Anglican Communion as we wrestle with a challenging issue.

or, in other words, “look, this is going to happen whether you like it or not - at least General Synod can make it happen in a good way (and even set a positive precedent as opposed to the combative approach of TEC) rather than force it upon us to leave”.

In one sense the submission, while being a positive contribution to the debate over how to handle this change, is a line in the sand from the FCA.

It remains to be seen what the response will be and whether the working group will accept the recommendations. Questions will also arise as to who the bishop for this new diocese will be. I have had a number of names put to me and I understand that those on the ground in New Zealand have a favoured candidate, but it’s still a way away until those decisions have to be made.

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Of all the things for a church to split over…

It’s as plain as the nose on your face that man and woman belong together sexually.  It’s also as plain on the nose on your face that man/man and woman/woman do not belong together sexually.

Yet, we have some percentage of the population that denies this simple, physical fact.  You don’t even have to bring God or the Bible into the discussion - the evidence speaks for itself.

We live in a time where so many are deceived.  We need a Saviour…

[1] Posted by B. Hunter on 10-4-2016 at 10:58 AM · [top]

Let’s hope they can do it without going to court.

[2] Posted by Undergroundpewster on 10-4-2016 at 02:38 PM · [top]

Thinking they may be helping the Anglican Communiion by “leading” is a very misinformed opinion.  I’m sorry but the idiocy of thinking that an equal but separate province will solve the crisis is naive to say the least.  That’s like GE saying, we are going to create separate departments.  Department 1 is where all the paid workers will be assigned and Department 2 will handle all the slave labor.

They are not fighting over a minor issue.  It is a Gospel issue which makes it a salvation issue.  Either Christ is who He says He is or we are all playing with fool’s gold.  If some of the Scripture is tainted and therefore disposable, those verses that hold Christ to be the Christ are tainted as well. 

My suggestion for the New Zealand - make sure you have adequate reserves to pay for the upkeep of all those empty buildings.

[3] Posted by Jackie on 10-5-2016 at 02:40 PM · [top]

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