All is Well…TLC: Facing Six-Figure Deficit, CDSP Cuts Staff

I understand the board is considering a merger with <a >Universal Life Church</a>.

... and to finish the post, it is seen as a measure to decrease the costs of seminary education while speeding up the ordination track. Makes sense to me.

Obama is doing all he can to help TEC recover and draw a crowd - he’s just declared June 2009 GBLT ‘gay’ ‘pride’ month.

http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/?p=11416

Surely the pews will be packed all this month.

Guess they aren’t handing out enough joke Doctorate degrees to people with deep pockets.  Or maybe those people are to busy giving their money to the MDG’s.

Floridian,
That may not be enough. At the rate Kate is racking up legal fees and costs the siphoning has got to come from somewhere since the pews are becoming more empty! Sorry but I cannot muster enough sympathy or empathy for CDSP…it has been putting out heretics for sometime now!

TLDillon, I know only one CDSP grad personally, and he most definitely is not a heretic.  He is a priest in our diocese, by the way, and we’ve been friends for many years.

Cennydd,
No doubt, occasionally, a good one slips through CDSP. A friend of mine made it through VTS without it impacting his theology much at all.  The bishop, also a VTS grad, fired him a few years in when he discovered the indoctrination had failed.  Likewise, one of the greater heretics of my experience is a Nashotah grad.  It was the closest seminary, he went, made it through, came out and now doesn’t believe in the Nicene Creed or the divinity of Christ. If you have a strong will, I imagine the choice of seminary doesn’t have much impact.  Still, if Rev. Forrester could ace his theology and liturgy classes at CDSP, and his prof is one of the defenders of his liturgical practices, I think CDSP has a problem.

Well, CDSP makes the fourth TEC seminary that’s been forced to make big cutbacks.  Seabury-Western in Evanston and Bexley Hall in Rochester have shut down, and EDS near Boston has sold a lot of their real estate to raise cash.  You have to wonder which school will be next.

But the fact is that the high costs of running a traditional residential seminary have become prohibitive for the small number of students that TEC seminaries have.  TSM in Ambridge and Nashotah House are feeling the pressure too, although they haven’t had the drop in the number of students that the 9 liberal TEC seminaries have.  It remains to be seen what the shape of theological education will look like in the 21st century, but one thing is for usre, there will be big changes.  The old model is just too expensive, and can’t accommodate the growing number of potential students who aren’t free to relocate for three years.

David Handy+

How many six-figure deficits is Rick Warren noting in his church in CA?

Cennydd…I have many priests who are friends that came from CDSP long ago! That is the key words ....“Long Ago”! CDSP is not reputable these days!

TJ,
Remember that Kevin Forrester went through on one year, and his studies at CDSP were 4 years before his high desert crisis of faith and the introduction to a Zen master.  The things we have seen theologically and liturgically from him seem to be formulated (even if perhaps already planted in some way) after CDSP.  That is not a defense of the seminary from the early 90’s, but simply a challenge to presuming that the Kevin we see now is the same Kevin CDSP saw going through.  Still, I do think Louis Weil, the liturgics professor at that time, would have seriously challenged Kevin regarding rubrical iconoclasm.
I can’t make the same caveat for the Presiding Bishop.

Now, 10 years earlier were interesting times with a host of now recognizable names as alumni.  Formation-wise, it was somewhat up in the air.

Just a thought,but perhaps if TEC seminaries did abortions a means of financing education in line with the Executive Committee’s alignment with the RCRC, would be justified?  Charge a measly 250 dollars per procedure and raise 15,000,000 with just 60,000 abortions.  Shouldn’t take too long with all those seminarians, should it?

dwstroudmd - how do they know they wouldn’t be aborting future seminarians? They could risk cutting off their face to maintain their nose. Still, on the positive side, they may inadvertantly abort a future Dr.(?) Siller too.

Don’t forget that General Theological Seminary in Chelsea tried to sell off a parcel of it’s land, until the local historical society (or a neighborhood group - don’t remember) quashed the deal.  Seems the potential buyer wanted to put up an enormous apartment or condo block. Or maybe it was that GTS wanted to build the condos/ apartments and generate income? But, anyway, GTS was trying to raise cash by selling or developing land a couple of years ago. (OK, when I say “a couple of years ago” that probably means more like 5 or 6 years ago.)

fyffee, based on what Ragsdale advocates, such abortions of future seminarians “would be a blessing” would it not?  How can you even for one moment dare to question a blessing in terms of money and abortion.  The combination to keep the ECUSA/TEC/GCC/EO-PAC “seminaries” that need heads like her and “thought” like hers should be irresistible.  Maybe there’s still time for a GC resolution to brandish in the ABC’s face in this vein?  Has Ragsdale not been able to get any one’s blessing on a GC resolution to that effect?  On her logic all seminarians should be so co-opted and help fund their education.

Banshee in the flesh, she is.