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February 15, 2012

Pelosi Wants Gay Marriage Plank in 2012 Dem Platform

Warning: Link to wholesome, family-oriented web site full of sexually-provocative gay imagery.

The proposed plank states: “We support the full inclusion of all families in the life of our nation, with equal respect, responsibilities, and protections under the law, including the freedom to marry. Government has no business putting barriers in the path of people seeking to care for their family members, particularly in challenging economic times.

The Democrats, having taxed, regulated, and “stimulated” our economy into oblivion, now want to say that because of hard economic times we need to legalize gay marriage? This is like the boy who kills his parents then begs the court for leniency because he’s an orphan.

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What can we expect from a Roman Catholic who supports abortion of all sorts, wants free health insurance for “artists” so they can create art without having to earn a living or worry about their health, and hasn’t run out of outrage yet at causes she doesn’t begin to understand.  The woman is a walking, talking, breathing, anomaly and danger to us all.

Better she should stay home and play grandma.  But of course, I’d rather have her grandkids learning at someone else’s knee, frankly.


[1] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 2-15-2012 at 06:56 PM · [top]

Maybe this would be a good thing. Maybe the more outrageous the Dems beoome, the ore likely it will be that decent, rational people with values will band together to defeat them.

[2] Posted by Nellie on 2-15-2012 at 09:23 PM · [top]

I think it is abundantly clear that the Democrat Party is virulently anti-Christian and that it has finally reached the stage where it is incumbent on all of us to become politically active to stop what they are trying to force on all of us.  Otherwise this country is quickly going to be reduced to a state of total tyranny, not to mention moral chaos which will match the economic chaos that has occurred since 2006.  The Catholics are going so far as to say we must be prepared to engage in active resistance against the government, I don’t know if we are at that stage yet but it is quickly getting there.

[3] Posted by Jim the Puritan on 2-15-2012 at 09:26 PM · [top]

Go ahead, Nancy—you know you want to. Become the political equivalent of TEc. It’s worked out so, so well for them.

[4] Posted by polycarp on 2-15-2012 at 10:36 PM · [top]

I don’t agree that the Democratic Party is “virulently anti-Christian,” and I personally know a good many Democrats who would say the same thing.  Many just happen to be orthodox Anglicans.

[5] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-16-2012 at 12:33 AM · [top]

So what are they doing in the Democratic Party then?

[6] Posted by Br. Michael on 2-16-2012 at 05:47 AM · [top]

I do find it, as I get older, harder and harder to justify the current Democratic platform with Christian values (Much like my own values with TEC). 

To wit:  “The full range of women’s reproductive services and methods of contraception, up to, and including a woman’s right to choose (abortion, of course).” is a plank of the party already.  Throwing gay marriage on the pile will push it even further away from anything remotely Christian or traditional than it already is. 

You’ve got to take a lot of “social justice” and “evil fat cat Republican bloated profiteer” pills to stay Democrat with their current stances on several issues.


[7] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 2-16-2012 at 08:23 AM · [top]

Br. Michael, I would suggest that most Episcopalians are democrats.

cennydd13: saying Democrats are “orthodox Anglicans” is an oxymoron. You cannot be “orthodox”, and continue to prescribe to the actions of the Democratic Party. To do so is dishonest, which is the term I WOULD USE to describe Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, the boy king, and virtually all of the rest of the democrats…

It is disturbing that these pathological liars are in power over us, and even more disturbing that the American public is TOO DARN STUPID to (a)realize this, and (b)do something about it. The systematic dismantling of the U.S. Constitution by these people portends the end of this great republic as we know it, and if you read history, virtually 100% of governments that follow democracies are (typically) brutal dictatorships.

Lucky us.

Live free or die…

[8] Posted by Amazed&Graced; on 2-16-2012 at 08:30 AM · [top]

According to an article in our Sunday paper (Pittsburgh), gay marriage is simply a non-issue.  It is so “yesterday.”  Everyone accepts it except for a few crazy ultra right wing Christians.  Oh dear…I guess that would be us.

[9] Posted by Ann Castro on 2-16-2012 at 08:53 AM · [top]

Meanwhile, even a liberal newspaper points out that the administration is ducking the biggest issue facing the nation.  Instead they feed the Oprah crowd a weepy, symbolic measure that will impact very few Americans. 

I just got turned into the 99% again.

[10] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 2-16-2012 at 09:55 AM · [top]

You don’t want to get me started on the Oprah crowd!  Aiders and abettors?  You bet!

[11] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-16-2012 at 10:38 AM · [top]

And I don’t mix politics with religion.  For purely personal reasons, I switched from Democrat to Republican, but this doesn’t mean that I support everything they do.  I don’t vote along party lines.  Just because I may be a Republican, this doesn’t mean that I always vote that way.

[12] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-16-2012 at 10:43 AM · [top]

Basically, we have a nation under deception.  We need to weep and pray for them, and hopefully save some.  They believe more and more in the myth of the “good person,” who expresses the opinons approved by a media-channeled elite, is entertained at all times, and who isn’t obligated to anybody except insofar as expressing the pre-approved opinions.

It is no help to them that we have churches helping to operate the fog machine for Satan.

[13] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 2-16-2012 at 10:48 AM · [top]

I look at the issues, and in this case, I do agree that the Democrats are indeed wrong….VERY wrong.  In fact, I’d like to see Obama and his cronies tossed out the door in November.

[14] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-16-2012 at 10:48 AM · [top]

I style myself as an “independent”.  IMHO, Christians can no longer support the Democrats, but in so saying, I don’t suggest that they thereby always have to support the Republicans.  But the fact is that supporting Democrats means supporting legislators who will actively support seriously anti-Christian policies.  Christians can certainly disagree on the size and role of government, but the Democrats have gone way beyond that.

And I am not at all convinced that Americans will come to their senses and avoid walking off the cliff that Timothy Fountain warns about.  Unfortunately, liberals have done too good a job of exterminating logic and common sense from our schools, and replacing it with an anti-intellectual Oprahesque gruel of narcissistic emotional pablum.  The majority now have their hand out feeling entitled to whatever they want, and the “rich” are expected to pay for it all.  And the “rich” have their heads up their you-know-where and are only concerned with the short term profits which means cozying up to the liberal media and government elite in order to get good press and handouts.

All empires decline, and my prediction is that the Obama presidency will be seen in history as the administration that really accelerated America’s decline into irrelevancy.

[15] Posted by jamesw on 2-16-2012 at 01:12 PM · [top]


...anti-intellectual Oprahesque gruel of narcissistic emotional pablum….

PLEEAAASSEEE may I borrow that phrase?  WELL said!!!


[16] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 2-16-2012 at 01:57 PM · [top]

Mike, you’re right on the money!

[17] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-16-2012 at 02:20 PM · [top]

And here’s a fresh sample of that exact concept, from a newletter describing a Lenten series at a formerly conservative TEC parish for the upcoming Holy Season:

There is a third entity, a third power in this journey towards wholeness. While there have been many attempts to name this third entity, it is by nature, beyond definition. Some of the more common names are: God, Higher Power, Source, The Eternal, Truth, Elohim, Wisdom, Jesus, Spirit and the Universe. Just as a navigational compass is acted upon by a force outside of itself (magnetic North), the inner compasses of our lives are also acted upon by an ever-present force that calls us to greater wholeness, gently reminding us when our course in life needs correction. On the journey towards wholeness we soon learn that we are not the only ones who are doing the seeking; a power greater than ourselves is seeking us as well.

In case you needed an example of anti-intellectual Oprahesque gruel of narcisstic emotional pablum (shall we call it AIOGNEP pronounced AGG-nep going forward?)


[18] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 2-16-2012 at 03:04 PM · [top]

In my opinion, the Rep Establishment is as bad as the Dems in many ways.  They are NOT fiscally conservative, they are NOT for smaller government, and they are just as big a bunch of deceivers and liars on many issues.  Or were you not watching the pitiful “Super Committee” that was asked to trim $1.2 Trillion from a $45 Trillion budget over the next 10 years and came back empty-handed?  And so now the military gets lambasted, which was the Dems plan all along…

We have to vote them out just as we must vote the Dems out.

[19] Posted by B. Hunter on 2-16-2012 at 04:32 PM · [top]

To # 19
Thank you for your post, which is entirely correct.  Vote them all out.

[20] Posted by episcopal100 on 2-16-2012 at 04:38 PM · [top]

Spome cost-cutting among the services is necessary, and a good example of that is the wasteful spending on the F-35A/B/C program.  Three different versions of this tactical fighter for the Air Force and RAF, the Navy, and the Marine Corps is just plain ridiculous!  Why do the USAF and the RAF need their own version when the Navy’s slightly larger and heavier version can do the same jobs?  Two versions are sufficient, and the program would cost billions less.  The STOVL F-35C for the USMC might be justifiable, but its price tag isn’t.

[21] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-16-2012 at 04:54 PM · [top]

#21 - I agree that the military is not without need of cuts - they, like all government departments, need a periodic audit and fresh look into their plan and adjust where needed.  If they cost $800 B per year then you can probably lop off $50B without hitting muscle or bone. 

My point is that the military is ALWAYS the first, and often THE ONLY department lambasted by the Dems.  They loathe the very department that defends their freedoms, the department that is listed first in the dutites of the fed govt.

The Rep and Dem establishment won’t deal with real issues.  How about going after the real problems of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, which comprise 51% of fed govt spending?  How about balancing the budget?  How about repealing Obamacare (we absolutely cannot afford it)? 

Instead the Dems are trying to distract us by reframing “abortion” into “birth control” and then claim the Reps want to get rid of it.  They are trying to make this the #1 campaign issue so they don’t have to deal with real problems.  Watch and see…it’s totally disgusting, and too many “sheeple” fall for it, over and over again.

[22] Posted by B. Hunter on 2-16-2012 at 06:20 PM · [top]

#22 B. Hunter I agree with you and the most disturbing comments I hear from the left side of the aisle are things like “If we hadn’t had to fight George Bush’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, we could have given everybody free healthcare without any debate.”

Amazing how they forget that the House and Senate were BOTH asked to approve the Iraq and Afghan invasions, which they did nearly unanimously.

Unlike that little foray into Libya and God knows WHAT we were doing in Egypt, which Congress was never even offered the option to vote on.  But of course, PBO is SOOO smart, he doesn’t need Congress’ advice.

But yeah, the Wars ran $125-$150B per year in logistics costs (no sea lanes to Afghanistan) and that would have bought a whole lot of Medicaid….for a while.


[23] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 2-16-2012 at 10:29 PM · [top]

Clinton, Reid and Biden all voted for the war.  Now they blame Bush.  Pelosi apparently didn’t vote either way, but has voted for all the appropriation bills and other support since.  COWARDS!

Let the Dems add the plank.  I think that America is starting wake up to how radical the Dems have become - will be another “plank” they may get to walk in November, despite the media being in bed with them.

[24] Posted by B. Hunter on 2-17-2012 at 07:25 AM · [top]

You know, you all may have a point.  Perhaps Pelosi getting her way is the best avenue to force a litmus test on those who think it more Christian to be Democratic than Independent or Rebpublican.  let them add the plank.


[25] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 2-17-2012 at 09:12 AM · [top]

B. Hunter, we in the military have always been targest….you know that.  We’ve been smacked down, discriminated against by the very society that we’re sworn to defend, and yet we always bounce back, and when the chips are down, we respond and we’re loved again by those same people who criticized us. 

Yes, there is….and has always been….wasteful spending, with huge and unforseen cost overruns on so many projects…..some of which are unnecessary for our defense.  It is time to cut back on spending, and we know that.  But for Defense to be forced to cut to the bone, as some in Congress have demanded, is just plain stupid….and downright dangerous.

[26] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-17-2012 at 11:35 AM · [top]

Stupid, dangerous, and very, very short-sighted.

[27] Posted by Nellie on 2-19-2012 at 06:36 PM · [top]

When you plan for defense, it is customary to plan ahead for offense, as well, because there will come a time….there always is….when you may have to go on the offensive against your foe.  We all know who the most likely potential foe is in the Pacific, and if we don’t keep pace with what they’re doing, then we are damned fools.

[28] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-19-2012 at 07:12 PM · [top]

The scary thing is that the administration is very open about defense cuts and scaling back the military. Whatever happend to opsec? Nothing like publishing in newspapers and on TV how you’re going to cut back on defense, not to mention telling the enemy when we plan to pull out of Afghanistan and such stuff. When my son was in Iraq and I was in touch with other mothers on MarineMomsOnline, we were always warned to say nothing about times, places, reasons, force strength, etc.

[29] Posted by Nellie on 2-19-2012 at 08:10 PM · [top]

Between weakening our military, removing God from every facet of public life, promoting abortion and gay marriage, and all the other hideous things the administration is doing, we’re in serious danger of losing the America we all grew up in.

[30] Posted by Nellie on 2-19-2012 at 08:13 PM · [top]

Nellie, we already have….

[31] Posted by AnglicanXn on 2-19-2012 at 10:11 PM · [top]

OPSEC (Operational Security) is meaningless to the Obama administration.  There’s an old football adage which applies to military strategy, and it is this:  Don’t telegraph your play to your adversary!  That’s a good way to lose a war; any experienced military intelligence type will tell you that. 

Either Obama is getting some very bad advice from so-called “experts,” or he believes everything everyone tells him, and a lot of it is disinformation, which any intelligence analyst worth his salt wlll tell you is designed to fool and mislead commanders into taking the wrong actions.

[32] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-19-2012 at 11:26 PM · [top]

We need a complete change of command next November, or we’re sunk!  And that means that we need to get rid of every weak-kneed senator and congressperson who’s been in open collusion with this administration and our country’s enemies….of which there are many.

[33] Posted by cennydd13 on 2-19-2012 at 11:30 PM · [top]

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