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July 11, 2006


TLC: (Interview) Bishop J Schori: Open to the Spirit’s Leading

Bishop Jefferts Schori: Open to the Spirit’s Leading
7/10/2006

The Rt. Rev. Katharine Jefferts Schori was elected June 18 by the House of Bishops on the fifth ballot as the next Presiding Bishop of The Episcopal Church. She spoke recently with a reporter from The Living Church.

TLC: How do you think that Anglican women in other parts of the world—and how do you think the other primates—will receive the news of your election as Presiding Bishop?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: I think Anglican women will receive the news with rejoicing. I already know a few of the primates, having them at General Convention, so it will not be a matter of walking into a room of unfriendly faces.

TLC: Will you be invited to the next primates’ meeting?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: I don’t have any indication otherwise.

TLC: Would you please comment on the Windsor Report resolutions approved by General Convention and your reaction to the Archbishop of Canterbury’s report published after Convention?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: They are another stage in the process. This is not going to be resolved soon. The Archbishop of Canterbury gave clarity to his own role. He does not understand his role as that of the savior.

TLC: I was struck by the analogy you made to conjoined twins during your address to the House of Deputies on June 21. Could you elaborate on that?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: The image of two levels of communion has been around for a long time and will probably be around for a while longer. We are clearly in different places about human sexuality, but we also have a lot in common. I would hope that we could focus on poverty and Millennium Development Goals together.

TLC: What excited you about General Convention?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: I was excited by the Millennium Development Goals. Those are achievable. We would be shirking our Christian duty if we didn’t act on those. General Convention has asked all dioceses to be on board within a year. It is remarkable that more than 70 have already done so.

TLC: Your initial interest and education was in science. How has your background in science informed your faith?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: From the time I was a child I had a curiosity about the created order. I was fascinated by the diversity of life in the sea. I think my scientific training gave me gifts in looking at the world.

TLC: Could you elaborate?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: I tend to come to a situation with a hypothesis, rather than a set-in-stone agenda. It’s a spiritual practice of mine to hold my convictions lightly in order to be open to the leading of the spirit.

TLC: Some have questioned whether your lack of parochial experience as a rector will be a handicap. How would you respond to that?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: I think that experience is a rather narrow perspective. Before ordination, I was very active as a lay person both in my church and in the diocese. I served as both senior and junior warden. As a scientist, I developed experience managing grants and a laboratory. I have some questions whether leading a parish is all that helpful to being a diocesan bishop. A bishop is not resident in one place, for example.

TLC: You are an instrument rated pilot and have continued to fly since being consecrated Bishop of Nevada. Some companies include riders in the contracts of their senior executives forbidding them from engaging in certain risky activities. Since your election, has anyone cautioned you about continuing to fly after you are installed as Presiding Bishop?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: That came up in only one regard in Nevada. I encouraged the standing committee to take out a life insurance policy on me and it turned out to be a bit more expensive because of the flying. I think a leader should take a certain amount of risks, not over-the-top risks, but judicious ones.

TLC: What was your immediate reaction when you realized that you might actually be elected and when did you first allow yourself to believe that it might come true?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: I was surprised when I led after the first ballot. By the third ballot I had a real sense that it might actually happen. Afterward I was filled with a heavy weight, a sense of gravity. The Episcopal Church is rich with possibilities. There is plenty of work to do and now that Convention is over there is a clear sense of the direction in which to go. The Anglican Communion is not just the Windsor Report and the primates. There were some really interesting resolutions that the ACC [Anglican Consultative Council] passed. We have simply entered the next chapter in the process. The resolutions that we passed were the best that we could do in a limited period. We wrote in stone where we were at that time, but we will be wrestling with this for years. That was the clearest message from the Archbishop of Canterbury for me. That and the fact that he won’t try to settle it for us.

TLC: What about those both in The Episcopal Church and the rest of the Anglican Communion who cannot accept your ordained ministry out of theological conviction. How, for example, would you deal with a diocese which elected as a bishop someone who does not believe that God has called women to ordained orders; would you insist on being the chief consecrator?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: They are a relatively small minority of The Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion. There are plenty of ways to handle situations like that pastorally.

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“TLC: I was struck by the analogy you made to conjoined twins during your address to the House of Deputies on June 21. Could you elaborate on that?

Bishop Jefferts Schori: The image of two levels of communion has been around for a long time and will probably be around for a while longer. We are clearly in different places about human sexuality, but we also have a lot in common. I would hope that we could focus on poverty and Millennium Development Goals together.”

Objection, your honor, non-responsive!

[1] Posted by GL+ on 7-11-2006 at 06:25 AM · [top]

A trifle defensive, would you say?

[2] Posted by GL+ on 7-11-2006 at 06:32 AM · [top]

It is not a little frightening that Bishop Jefferts Schori holds her convictions lightly.  This is not what one wants to hear from a Bishop of the Church of Jesus Christ, who has taken a vow to “guard the faith, unity, and discipline of the Church.”  (BCP, p. 517)

Her heritage is the “faith of patriarchs, prophets, apostles, and martyrs” (also BCP, p. 517)—These people mentioned in the service for the Ordination of a Bishop did not hold their convictions lightly. 

Thanks be to God that they did not share our PB-elect’s mutable views.

[3] Posted by laudlady on 7-11-2006 at 06:57 AM · [top]

Goodness, I wonder if Polycarp held his convictions “lightly.”  Yep, gives one real heart to know our leaderess-elect’s convictions have the strength of Jello.

[4] Posted by Jackie on 7-11-2006 at 07:45 AM · [top]

TLC lobbed in a few fluff balls. And why no questions concerning the seven dioceses who have appealed for APO?

[5] Posted by David Wilson on 7-11-2006 at 07:59 AM · [top]

So, Schori’s spiritual practice is to hold her convictions lightly.  I would say she holds them (if, indeed, she’s ever had any) so lightly that they have slipped away entirely.

[6] Posted by jaydee on 7-11-2006 at 08:04 AM · [top]

Wow!  Not only does she hold her convictions lightly, but she openly questions whether being Rector of a parish “is all that helpful” to being a diocesan Bishop.  It is really scary to think that the best to be chosen is a theological lightweight and an arrogant Bishop who finds parish ministry irrelevant.  TEC has picked someone who served as a 2nd Lieutenant, was suddenly elevated to Colonel and equally suddenly became a 4 star General.  How about someone with combat experience—someone who has preached the Gospel and pastored the flock?

[7] Posted by hanks on 7-11-2006 at 08:12 AM · [top]

“We are clearly in different places about human sexuality, but we also have a lot in common.”

Of all the Resolutions at Gen Con6, the rejection of D058 is the most telling.

“Bad theology”, “Only one theory of atonement”, “Been there, done that”

Christianity was rejected in this resolution.  ECUSA has nothing in common with that ‘relatively small minority’ except for the shape of the buildings.

[8] Posted by Bill C on 7-11-2006 at 08:23 AM · [top]

If we had to elect a scientist from Nevada, why couldn’t we have gotten that guy on “CSI”?

[9] Posted by bigjimintx on 7-11-2006 at 08:25 AM · [top]

Well, you can’t very well settle in on any one “conviction” without excluding somebody and we all know what a bad word that is.  Besides, she might need to change her mind later, so she can’t lock herself in too tightly.

Again I say, where are the “St. Peter’s” who will defend the faith and preach boldly in the temples the Name of Jesus, in the face of personal persecution?  Isn’t that a bishop’s job?  Or is it now just paper pushing?

[10] Posted by Cindy T. in TX on 7-11-2006 at 08:47 AM · [top]

“I think a leader should take a certain amount of risks, not over-the-top risks, but judicious ones.”

Judge, jury, and executioner—that’s her motto!

[11] Posted by Brooks Kelley on 7-11-2006 at 08:48 AM · [top]

I knew it!  She is a Gnostic.  There are no new heresies under the sun.  Just an old recycled one.  Gnosticism is alive and well in Katie.
“It’s a spiritual practice of mine to hold my convictions lightly in order to be open to the leading of the spirit.”

[12] Posted by JimGilmore on 7-11-2006 at 09:08 AM · [top]

If she is really open to the leading of the spirit, my I be so bold as to suggest she read her Catechism:

Q. How do we recognize the truths taught by the Holy Spirit?
A. We recognize truths to be taught by the Holy Spirit when they are in accord with the Scriptures.

[13] Posted by hanks on 7-11-2006 at 09:15 AM · [top]

Bigjim,

That’d be +Gil Grissom wink  Unless they got the one CSI lady on there who’s name is also Katharine.  She’s much prettier. :-D

[14] Posted by Matthew Moore on 7-11-2006 at 09:18 AM · [top]

Hanks, she won’t read her Catechism, it sounds too much like Schism. Get Real! cheese

[15] Posted by Brooks Kelley on 7-11-2006 at 09:25 AM · [top]

“I think that experience is a rather narrow perspective.”

Really? I wonder if the FAA is aware of this.  Perhaps they should rewrite the requirements for the licensing of pilots? 

I suspect that God is not this lady’s co-pilot.

[16] Posted by leonL on 7-11-2006 at 11:52 AM · [top]

Meanwhile back at the MDG’s.  ENS’ BIG news for the day ;>)
“Friday Forum: ‘ONE Episcopalian’ campaign supports Millennium Development Goals”
http://gc2003.episcopalchurch.org/3577_76730_ENG_HTM.htm

[17] Posted by GL+ on 7-14-2006 at 02:40 PM · [top]

Me thinks that if ECUSA put that much effort into telling others about the REAL gospel message - well they wouldn’t need to spend so much on advertising the MDG.  God would convict the hearts and the converted would open their wallets.  But then 815 has not been keen on listening to us mere pew sitters.  They only recognize us when they cash our checks.

[18] Posted by JackieB on 7-14-2006 at 03:18 PM · [top]

CBS Nightly News plans July 16 profile of Presiding Bishop-elect

Anchor Russ Mitchell interviews Katharine Jefferts Schori

[ENS] A CBS Nightly News profile of Presiding Bishop-elect Katharine Jefferts Schori is scheduled to air nationwide during the 6pm newscast on Sunday, July 16, unless pre-empted by breaking news.

The profile centers around a July 13 interview conducted by CBS News anchor Russ Mitchell with Jefferts Schori on the campus of the General Theological Seminary in New York City.

[19] Posted by GL+ on 7-14-2006 at 06:42 PM · [top]

NEW/TOMORROW: A CBS Nightly News profile of Presiding Bishop-elect Katharine Jefferts Schori is scheduled to air nationwide during the 6pm newscast on Sunday, July 16, unless pre-empted by breaking news.  (ENS)

[20] Posted by GL+ on 7-15-2006 at 01:50 PM · [top]

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