Planned Parenthood: Yes, We’ll Gladly Target African-American Babies

Check out Student magazine says Planned Parenthood probe finds abortion racism which has a partial transcript plus other info on this story.

This is a surprise?  No one has heard of Margaret Sanger?  “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.”

Branford, I don’t think the UCLA story proves anything, if true, but that Planned Parenthood will take money from anywhere for any reason, as long as it’s negotiable. In the transcript, the PP person did say she had never had a call like that before - which would indicate they aren’t marketing themselves as a means of decreasing the population of one race against another. This really smacks of “entrapment” to me rather than addressing actual PP policies. And I am no supporter of PP, believe me.

Actually, I have, James. I heard she lived in another century.

they aren’t marketing themselves as a means of decreasing the population of one race against another.

Well, that answers my question.  You’ve never heard of Margaret Sanger.

I heard she lived in another century.

Good!  You are starting to educate yourself.

Without a doubt Planned Parenthood is an evil organization in league with Satan. One thing to be aware of is that the Susan Komen Foundation Race for the Cure has gifted money to Planned Parenthood, or at least some of their affiliates have. So if you don’t support Planned Murder, think about it before you walk for the cure.

And of course, VGR is a big supporter of Planned Parenthood, and admires the work they do.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/newsroom/press-releases/clergy-breakfast-11081.htm

DoW

Does anyone know what the percentage of live births among black people is, relative to their proportion of the population? Or the percenetage of pregnancies? I don’t like Planned Parenthood anymore than the rest of you, but I don’t think the bits above are enough by themselves to convict them of racism on top of everything else. It may exist within the organization - I wouldn’t be surprised. But I don’t think this proves it. And I’m pretty sure Margaret Sanger hasn’t been in charge for a long time.

I despise Planned Parenthood and am well aware of their racist roots.  But I think maybe this is a case of the represenative going along with the caller to avoid losing a donation.  Which in itself is disturbing but hardly along the lines of Planned Parenthood having an official stance advocating for aborting or preventing the birth of more minority babies.

I don’t consider it “entrapment” when a statement is made and the caller says it’s “understandable” - the PP rep did not care what was said as long as the money came in - maybe there is no “official” policy (and really, do you think that would be something they’d put in writing?!) but there certainly seems to be a latent racism, or maybe it’s “elitism” or “classism,” going on here.

I don’t know, I never thought the point of this video was racism, as much as it was exposing a soulless and immoral organization.

I somehow doubt anyone at Planned Parenthood is racist, just unwanted baby-ist.  The truly startling thing is the callousness and eagerness they have towards ending lives.  Indeed, killing of these unwanted children in their twisted mind is a good thing.  Don’t buy this “Abortion is a tragedy” rhetoric, they actually like abortion.

Stalin would be proud.

DoW

I somehow doubt anyone at Planned Parenthood is racist, just unwanted baby-ist.

I agree completely. To me trying to tie them to racism serves as a distraction from the main point - they will be happy to help you kill your baby anytime.

“Planned Parenthood is an organization that I have always admired and respected. It does such extraordinarily fine work, and I’m very happy to be associated with it.”

- The Right Reverend V. Gene Robinson

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/issues-action/medical-privacy/gene-robinson-6331.htm

DoW -
I think you’re right - it’s “unwanted babyism” that PP suffers from - and maybe it’s easier to prey on those with less economic resources to keep those abortion mills busy.

Even if they are racist that’s minor in the scheme of things.  This reminds me of those news stories reporting where somebody got arrested by the police.  For example, they’ll say the subject was charged with auto theft, fleeing to elude, possession of crack cocaine and possession of a firearm by a felon.  The article will then say, “The subject was also charged with driving on a suspended license.”

It seems to me that if an organization had, as its founder, a notorious eugenicist/racist, and wanted to reject her racism, while promoting what they felt was good about her work, then they would be especially careful to distance themselves from anything like this.  They haven’t.  If you look at the link that Bradford posted in #1, it says that this was part of a probe done by pro-life students, who made similar calls to a number of PP centers in different states, and in every case they took the money. 

We uphold the African primates who are refusing to take money from TEC.  Most,  if not all of us, applauded Rudy Guiliani, when he rejected Arab money after 9/11, because the donor tried to blame 9/11 on the Jews.  That’s how principled people act.  An organization which is serious about rejecting its racist past doesn’t take money from racists.

Planned Parenthood’s Racist origin and ideology are both thoroughly exposed by Daniel J. Flynn in his brilliant/disturbing book,

*Intellectual Morons:  How Ideology Makes Smart People Fall for Stupid Ideas.*

His chapter on Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood alone is worth the price of the book.

http://www.amazon.com/Intellectual-Morons-Ideology-People-Stupid/dp/1400053560/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204243955&sr=8-2

Bill+
Fort Worth

Piedmont, yes.

Via orthodoxy, would you please state your source for the info re: the Susan Komen Foundation Race for the Cure.  I find it hard to believe that a group that supports life so strongly would donate to PP.  You may be right and I may be just stupid, but I would like the source please.

Sure. Here are a couple of links. I first heard about this on EWTN radio.
http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/news/061110/index.htm  and
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-02-26-diocese-komen_N.htm 
and   http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1977286/posts

#9—It seems that African-American women have abortions at almost 3 times the rate of their white counterparts
<a >infoplease.com/ipa/A0764203.html </a>

The video posted says that PP has 80% of its clinics in minority neighborhoods.

The book “Freakonomics” asserted, in a carefully qualified way, that one effect of the first several years of legalized abortion was to help lower the future crime rate by eliminating a large swathe of people from the underclass.  Aborting black babies in order to reduce future crime rates would be very much in Margaret Sanger’s line.

That doesn’t mean that that is what PP is doing now, but their willingess to tolerate such blatant racism in their donors doesn’t look good.

It is simply genocide.  PP which is one of the organs of the pro-death establishment is heavy into killing babies of the poor and minorities.  In Mississippi, the black caucus consitently votes to fund medicaid to kill black babies who are aborted at about three times the rate of whites.  The rabid white racist have on more than one occassion told me that abortion and funding for medicaid was good because it eleminated “those people.”  In all fairness, PP is an equal opportunty killer of innocent babies. What I can’t understand is why any Christian would belong to a church or give to it that supports abortion.  Kyrie eleison!

“In Mississippi, the black caucus consitently votes to fund medicaid to kill black babies who are aborted at about three times the rate of whites.  The rabid white racist have on more than one occassion told me that abortion and funding for medicaid was good because it eleminated “those people.””

Looks like there’s a ditch on either side of the road…

Margaret Sanger was very specific in her statement of the role of providing contraception and abortion services to keep down the undesirable populations, among which she named the Irish and the Negro.  If you can locate collections of her writings which are inclusive and original and complete, you can verify these words for yourself.  In the library at the University of Virgina, Charlottesville, you could find original editions of these works to read in the mid-1980’s.  I suppose one still can if the library has maintained the collection.  Gird your digestive system, Margaret Sanger was not one to mince words however much she approved of mincing undesirable groups in the womb.

I’m going to go out on a limb here.  Something I rarely do…

As much as I despise PP and loathe everyone who supports them, and fully believe that a) they were founded by Margaret Sanger to help eliminate the Black race, and b) they are guided by Satan at every level who rejoices at each and every “termination”, I still feel the need to say this:

That video—the audio portion—could easily have been faked by your average high school student.  It may well be a “dramatization”, and PP nor the producers of this video have any way of proving it’s legitimacy one way or the other.

I dunno, if it’s real, it wouldnt suprise me a bit.  If it’s fake, it wouldnt suprise me a bit.  Both sides in this debate have mastered the art of propaganda…

As I’m watching this video a commercial came up on TV and gave out this  little website, encouraging Iowans to chip into a state fund that provides family planning for women, including contraception. Good grief.  I wonder if people knew this was state funded abortions they’d be a little less inclined to “join the cause.”

Thanks Matthew Moore

The URL for the “Healthy Families Project” is .htm, not .html:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/greater-iowa/healthy-families-project.htm

And my, what beautiful children they show in the graphics on that website.  If only those kids knew how damn lucky they are to be alive!  Thank GOD they were identified as “healthy” while in the womb… and “intended” too… otherwise…  (Marty draws a finger across his neck for effect)

Picking up on an earlier comment about Gene Robinson’s role in the abortion propaganda, I would remind us that, when he addressed the 2005 Planned Parenthood annual breakfast, he said that PP should “promote abortion rights” in opposition to the traditional religious objections:  “Our defense against religious people has to be a religious defense. ... We must use people of faith to counter the faith-based arguments against us.” 

Further, I would like to quote from +Robinson’s interview of June 2006. Asked how the Episcopal Church stands on abortion, he said, “the church has steadfastly resisted efforts to retract in any way our support for a woman’s choice.”  Here is part of this exchange below, showing how far he has pushed the envelope, as the Executive Committee did when affiliating with RCRC. 

DAVID HARTLINE (INTERVIEWER): “When is viability? I just put a story on my website about a baby who survived an abortion years ago and she just sang in the Colorado General Assembly. What if a woman came to you and said she’s getting an abortion in her second or third trimester?”

BISHOP ROBINSON: Well it’s her right to choose so though I would be personally against it, that’s her decision. The young woman you mentioned well that’s why I believe in getting abortions as early as possible.

This was an open interview, with several well-known participants, recorded in The Catholic Report.
http://www.catholicreport.org/?id=193

This is the kind of thing that ought always to be included among our presenting reasons for dissent from the Episcopal Church, now that it is implicated in claims for unlimited abortion “rights” through RCRC promotional material.

I am no fan of PP, but find this video’s tactic abhorrent.  Think of it like this.  Some national church organization which you support provides a phone line to discuss donations, puts an ad in the paper, hires some people to pick up the phone.  They give them a day’s instructions how to use the phone system, how to be polite to callers, basic policies, etc.  Someone trying to smear the church phones in recording the call, and saying they want to donate to minority churches since they believe that churches are the best way of keeping minorities “under control” and unconcerned about political matters like their rights.  “Can the money be spent specifically for indoctrinating minorities in minority churches?  I just think the stupider we can make these minority groups by keeping them occupied with mindless drivel, the better chance us white supremacists have in society ...”  Call enough times, and one or two of these will follow the policy “be friendly and affirmative at all times,” also just wanting to get more money in to increase their chance of being employee of the month.  They make a video, they use clips of the KKK - how would you feel about these guys?  Some people who don’t support your cause post it on their site, how would you think about those people’s sincerity and capacity for honest rational debate?

This is vulgar populism at its worst and iho hardly fit for the pages of this site.  You would not want a stupid, ugly argument used against yourself to have yourself smeared as racist, so don’t do it to PP, no matter how reprehensible partial birth abortions, and other things they support, may be.

#30 - While you may have a point about untrained call takers, an update here says the PP of Idaho has issued an apology saying at least in Idaho, the person was a PP VP.  The article says “The Advocate spoke over the phone with Autumn Kersey, Vice-President of Marketing and Development for Planned Parenthood of Idaho. . .”

J.M.C.  I don’t think the story proves that PP has a racist (as opposed to an immoraland murderous one) agenda, but this was not some $7 an hour part time fund raiser.  This was the Vice President of the state organization.

There is an interesting article about PP’s strong presence in black neighborhoods here;
<a > http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialRep

There are some facts about the placement of PP clinics which are very disturbing.  They also quote the head of a Texas pro-life organization:
<blockquote>
Nevertheless, Crutcher said he believes abortionists’ motives are not as much racial as they are economic and elitist.

“I’m not convinced that any of the people who have run Planned Parenthood over the years have said, ‘Let’s wipe out all the black people,’ but that’s been the effect of it,” he stated. “Their attitude toward poor whites is basically the same as their attitude toward poor blacks.”

While its true this doesn’t prove PP is racist, it does reveal an indifference to racism and a willingness to turn a blind eye toward racism as long as it can be used to advance their agenda.

I love that “okay, whatever”.  That was utterly cold.

Wolverine

I asked this yesterday and no one answered, so I ask again:

Does anyone know what the percentage of live births among black people is, relative to their proportion of the population? Or the percentage of pregnancies?

Os—The CDC has lots of interesting information at
<a > cdc.gov/nchs/products/pubs/pubd/hus/black.htm#births</a>

In 2004, there were 3,222,928 live births nationally.  Black live births were 616074, or 19%. 
The national birth rate was 14%, the black birth rate was 16 %.

The abortion rates for 2003 (latest year given) were, horribly, 24.1% nationally, and for blacks 49.1 , or nearly half of all black pregnancies.

There’s got to be something terribly, horribly wrong in your soul to support this.

http://www.abortionfacts.com/providers/quotes.asp

Cathy_Lou and DaveG, you are right, I had been misled by the first instance which was designated as an “administrative assistant,” which sometimes means “somebody we just hired to answer the phones.”  That this type of racism received the response which the PP rep April Kersey gave it is ... well I’m also lost for words - like Greg, speechless.
Apparently Sanger once used her newsletter to call for the assassination of individuals who opposed her vision of society, and when three men were killed with a bomb they had built to try to assassinate Rockefeller (and the Rockefeller family later donated to her cause), she made the remark: “Even if dynamite were to serve no other purpose than to call forth the spirit of revolutionary solidarity and loyalty, it would prove its greater value.”  These facts should be useful next time one gets into an argument with anyone condemning the pro-life cause by associating it with the clinic bombers ...

But this morally calloused remark makes me think of the ethics involved here: is using possible donations to “bait” people to sympathize with racist statements legitimized by the uncovering of such racism?  This is probably the only way to uncover such racism, so perhaps it is - it is, at any rate, more open to legitimate debate than Sanger’s own prescriptions.

After reading the article on Anne Coletta’s site and reading more about Margaret Sanger (KKK clips in the video *are* thus relevant - Sanger gave at least one talk at a KKK women’s meeting and visited the Nazi anthropologist Eugen Fischer), I understand the clip better and have a much higher estimate of Greg’s taste in posting it.

PP seems to be trying to clean up its image regarding history.  It has removed a biography it had posted on Martha Sanger.  However, they still have yearly Martha Sanger awards, and host a Martha Sanger Society.

Perhaps it’s time for PP to own up to the reality of this woman they are honoring.

“I despise Planned Parenthood and am well aware of their racist roots.  But I think maybe this is a case of the representative going along with the caller to avoid losing a donation”—-Paula Laughlin [#10]

Quite plausible.
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Jesus taught that “the measure you give will be the measure you get.”

Are we ready to be bound by everything said by someone who works for an orthodox Anglican organization?

Do we, by implying that everything said by Sanger binds PP today, want to open ourselves to linkage with Ahmanson?

Irenaeus—I’m willing to withhold judgment for a day or two, to give PP a chance to fire this VP, and the workers in other states who also took racially based donations.

March 10 is the National Day of Appreciation for Abortion Providers

I wish I were making this up.  This is a day, which in the past has been supported by the ACLU, NOW and the National Abortion Federation (among others). 
http://www.prochoice.org/blog/2007/03/take-action-show-your-appreciation-for.html  http://www.aclu.org/reproductiverights/abortion/12517prs20030310.html
http://www.arhp.org/roewade/031005day.cfm
http://www.feminist.org/calendar/cal_details.asp?idSchedule=6152

I hope the Common Cause Partnership will consider making March 10th a fast day remembering the Modern Holy Innocents.

Thanks for the stats, In Newark. I didn’t know where to look. In thinking about the higher percentage of abortions among black women, I think we also have to consider the matter of choice. PP doesn’t haul people in and make them have abortions. I don’t think we have the evidence to convict PP of genocide on a setup like this. Convict them of having no convictions but that of the need to acquire money no matter the cost - yeah, looks like.

Whatever Sangster did really has nothing to do with the organization today, y’all.

I think PP is shooting itself in the foot with a response like the one below:

http://www.krem.com/news/local/stories/krem2_022808_plannedparenthoodcall.7e7fb27.html?npc

“Yeah what we did was bad, but boy, what they did was really evil” sort of response.

“I’m willing to withhold judgment for a day or two, to give PP a chance to fire this VP”—-In Newark [#40]

Fair enough. Firing them wouldn’t necessarily absolve PP. Critics could still reasonably ask what this episode says about PP’s institutional culture. But failing to act would speak volumes.
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This episode is certainly ironic in light of the old suggestion that pro-lifer folk were out to impose white middle-class controls on poor black people—-as though limits on abortion were in themselves racist.

“National Day of Appreciation for Abortion Providers”—-#41
= NDAAP

“Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei” (Nazi Party)
= NSDAP

Unintentional. Not identical. But ironic.

I wonder if there is not an even likelier bias against the poor.

One thing we can do is urge our legislators to deny State and Federal Funding for Planned nonParenthood.  Abortions are just the worst of a very bad lot of morally bankrupt services that PP supports and provides.  You want to get your blood up, check out teenwire, PP’s teen sex information guide.  Or read the latest about PP’s support and defense of making pornography available to children and teens. 

PP is a business.  A business which profits everytime a woman or girl decides to use their abortion services.  It has nothing to do with caring for women, with easing financial and other burdens of pregnancy and everything with increasing their profits.  They are polytheist, worshipping both Moloch and Manna.

If there truly was justice in this world, the rocks could not hide them from the wrath of an angry God.  But there is not.  But we do have prayers.  Prayer that the God of love and mercy will soften their hearts, and break the demon stones that way them down.  For these sinners too, Christ rose for them.  So work and pray that the light may shine even in this darkness.

The evil of killing babies combined with the evil of racism does give one pause. It was not long ago that the NAZI regime did just that.  Do we want to go through that horror again.

Thanks for the links, Via orthodoxy.  I received an education.  I will no longer donate to the Susan G. Komen fund.  That is a shame that an organization that I have respected so much is now on my “never again” list.  In fact, I was considering doing the walk in Fort Worth this year.  There are two ways of voting—-one is with your checkbook, the other is with your feet.  I have elected to use them both.

Concerning the relationship between Planned Parenthood and the Komen Foundation—Anglicans for Life had an article about it back in their September 2007 NewsBrief

“Planned Parenthood is an organization that I have always admired and respected. It does such extraordinarily fine work, and I’m very happy to be associated with it.”

- The Right Reverend V. Gene Robinson

The TEC is renaming the Rite of Baptism.  The new BCP will contain “A Survival Celebration.”