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Greg Griffith
Mohler: Must One Believe in the Resurrection to be a Christian?
Monday, March 24, 2008 • 8:23 am

This was the question asked for the end of the past week by the editors of The Washington Post and Newsweek for the "On Faith" conversation. Here was the question as stated by the editors: Do you have to believe the resurrection is literally true -- that Jesus came back to life in his body -- to be a Christian?

A similarly framed question is often asked about various Christian doctrines and such questions are unavoidable. If the word "Christian," used as a noun, is to mean anything, it must be defined -- and the definition must include some essential doctrinal elements. The New Testament leaves no choice here, for essential beliefs are explicitly mentioned within the Bible's presentation of the Gospel.

Bishop Wright's response can be read in more detail here:


a. Literal and metaphorical. The word 'literal' is misused if we try to make it mean 'it actually happened'. The word 'literal' refers to the way words refer to things -- that they refer to something 'literally'. If we intend to refer to an event that happens in the space/time/matter world, the way to do so is to say it is a 'concrete' event as opposed to an 'abstract' one. We should note that 'metaphorical' is in that respect like 'literal' -- it refers to the way words refer to things, rather than to the things themselves.

Now we've got that out of the way:

b. The word 'resurrection' in the first century, whether used by people who believed in it (Christians and some Jews) or by those who didn't (pagans and some other Jews), ALWAYS meant something to do with people being physically, concretely, bodily alive having been physically, concretely, bodily dead. It acquires metaphorical meanings (e.g. to do with baptism and holiness) early on but still doesn't lose its basic meaning. Thus if the early Christians had wanted to say 'Jesus died and then went to heaven in an exalted state', or 'Jesus died but his cause lives on', or 'Jesus dies but we can still sense his presence with us', they would never have used the word 'resurrection'. They had perfectly good ways of saying those other things, and the word 'resurrection' (i.e. its Greek or Aramaic equivalents) wasn't one of those ways.

c. Thus to say Jesus was raised but to mean something that didn't involve a body being alive again was, and still is, a contradiction in terms. But -- and this is hugely important -- this does NOT mean that Jesus' resurrection is simply a very odd thing that Christians are required to believe even though nobody in their right mind could sensibly do so. The New Testament presents the resurrection of Jesus not as a bizarre event within the old creation, the present world of decay, corruption and death, but as the foundational, prototypical and generative event within the new creation, the renewal of heaven and earth which Israel's God had long promised and which was decisively launched when Jesus came out of the tomb (not, we note, as a mere 'resuscitated corpse', as some have accused me and others of suggesting, but in a transformed physicality that decay and death could no longer touch).

Comments:

The short answer is “yes”.  One who does not believe in the concrete bodily resurrection denies the basic truth upon which all other Christian truths hang.

[1] Posted by Philip Bowers on 03-24-2008 at 09:47 AM

Ancient Tradition:

Ancient Epitome of Canon VII.

Any bishop who sets forth a faith other than that of Nice shall be an alien from the Church:  if a layman do so let him be cast out.

Yup, pretty much has been that way for quite some time.

[2] Posted by Hosea6:6 on 03-24-2008 at 10:00 AM

A person can become a Christian (repenting of sin and having faith in Jesus as his Savior, the one who has reconciled him to the Father) without believing that Jesus was raised physically from the dead.  but such a person will not be spiritually healthy and is not qualified for any sort of leadership within the Church.  And if, as time passes, such a person does not come to believe that Jesus truly rose physically from the dead, he is in grave spiritual danger; he will make no progress in being transformed into the character of Christ and may actually become less and less like Christ.

[3] Posted by AnglicanXn on 03-24-2008 at 10:15 AM

I just don’t understand why someone would waste their time on Christianity if they didn’t believe in the bodily resurrection.

[4] Posted by Chris Molter on 03-24-2008 at 10:26 AM

#3 AnglicanXn,
You state and I agree that:

“but such a person will not be spiritually healthy and is not qualified for any sort of leadership within the Church.”

Then again I ask, as I have so many times, how did this person get elevated to the priesthood? And just what do we do about these priests, deacons, and bishops that are among us now? Where is the discipline for this type arianism whih in effect is heresy?

[5] Posted by One Day Closer on 03-24-2008 at 10:26 AM

"if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” Rom 10:9

Now read I Corinthians 15.

[6] Posted by Philip Bowers on 03-24-2008 at 10:31 AM

Yes Greg - it’s terrible, but within your Calvinist doctrine/practice where is the “magisterial” power to discipline or remove apostates.  When the Calvinists gave up on Bishops (severely reduced and/or attempted to eliminate the Episcopal Office) they did not propose an alternative interpretitive or supervisory authority.  Hence you have things like this happening with no possiblity of Ecclesiastical intervention.

So you fuss and fume at these things, but you yourselves have set up the system within which they are permitted to happen.

Thank God for an Apolistic-led catholic (NOTE: small c) church structure.

[7] Posted by star-ace on 03-24-2008 at 10:33 AM

I am no great friend of Calvinism but to blame its structure of church governance for heresy is a very very long stretch.  Especially since churches that do have Bishops also fall into the trap of heresy.  Even us RCC have our share of them.  Does the name Dominic Crossan ring any bells?

It is not the structure that causes sin.  Sin no matter where it is found (and this includes heresy) begins in one place.  A person’s heart from there it is let loose upon the world.  Each person has the free will and I hope the gift of discernment whether to participate in sin. 

If this sin is brought into a church it matters not if the body which disciplines for heresy is one man or many.  When that discipline is never exercised.  All church leaders regardless if they hold the title of Bishop are called to be shepherds.  When they fail to protect those under their spiritual care from heresy they are to be blamed. 
To foist it off on how a church is governed is dishonest.

And a PS.  Yes one has to believe in the Bodily Resurrection to be a Christian one does not have to believe in it to follow Christian moral and ethical teachings.  Those truly blessed by the Grace of God do both.

[8] Posted by Paula Loughlin on 03-24-2008 at 10:53 AM

Folks, this is the reason we celebrate on Sunday, the eighth day, the day of the new creation, a radical departure from the Old Testament.

[9] Posted by francis on 03-24-2008 at 11:03 AM

Must one believe in mathmatics to be a mathmatician?
Must one believe in science to be a scientist?
Must one believe in weather to be a weatherman?
Must one believe in the law to be a lawyer?
Must one believe in the bodily ressurrection of Christ to be a Christian? If you do not believe in the bodily ressurrection, by definition you are not a Christian. You may, however, be an Episcopalian.

the snarkster

[10] Posted by the snarkster on 03-24-2008 at 11:04 AM

correct it would appear snarkster

[11] Posted by ewart-touzot on 03-24-2008 at 11:13 AM

When the Calvinists gave up on Bishops (severely reduced and/or attempted to eliminate the Episcopal Office) they did not propose an alternative interpretitive or supervisory authority.

Um, they did not give up on bishops.  They assert that one function of an oversear is different than another function of an oversear, but assert that it is the same oversear (i.e., same office)

Also, imho, conservative Presbyterians (at least in North America) have shown that they are capable (though not with perfect consistency over time, and geography) of balanced discipline.

[12] Posted by Moot on 03-24-2008 at 11:13 AM

As Bishop Stanton said, having a bishop (or anyone else for that matter) wanting to “rethink the Resurrection” is like having a plumber who wants to rethink pipes.

Can you be a member of the Church and not believe (or have doubts about) the Resurrection?  Yes, I would say so.  But I would counsel you to make the focus of your prayers “I believe, help my unbelief!” (Mark 9:24) I would also say that, unless you can wholeheartedly say the creeds and mean what you say without twisting words, you should not seek Holy Orders.  If you find yourself in Holy Orders and doubting the faith as expressed in the Creeds and the Tradition of the Church, then I would make it a rule that you not teach (or preach) anything contrary to what has been received and if you could not abide by that restriction, you take a voluntary leave of absence from your position until the matter of your faith is resolved one way or the other.

YBIC,
Phil Snyder

[13] Posted by Philip Snyder (Dallas) on 03-24-2008 at 11:23 AM

I have come to understand that we will all be physically raised from the dead (graves, sea, smitherines, etc.) (some assembly required), and then be instantly changed into spirit beings for judgement before God.

1 Corinthians 15:52 “in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.”

And yes, believe in the resurrection of the dead as an essential element of being a Christian - and basis of our hope.

And yes, we believe in a God so great that He can do this, no matter how impossible it may seem to “unbelievers.”

[14] Posted by MasterServer on 03-24-2008 at 11:23 AM

Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 

1 Cor 15:12-17

Short answer:  Emphatically, yes. 

Possible exceptions that would prove the rule (imho):
- A preacher who has doubts, but preaches it without qualification to his parish, based upon a compelling factor (e.g., submitting to his bishop’s authority, or otherwise “earning his paycheck");
- Baby Christians.

[15] Posted by Moot on 03-24-2008 at 11:30 AM

#8 “It is not the structure that causes sin.” Agreed 100.00%, but it is the structure that prevents or deters effective discipline.

And, yes, they gave up on bishops as fulfilling the Apolostlic office (or in the Elizabethian situation agreed to continue the Office of Bishop interpreted as Supervisory Pastor.  The REC “perfected this approach.) Read any standard history on the Reformation.

Who exactly in the Presbyterian/Reformed/Calvinistic churches fills the office as described by Paul below.  Are you thinking of the “gifts of Admintration”.

1 Corinthians 12:28
And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.

Ephesians 4:11
It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,

When all are in charge, no-one is in charge.

[16] Posted by star-ace on 03-24-2008 at 11:30 AM

Taking the plumber analogy further (thanks #13) - they are “licensed” and have to “plumb” using certain standards.  Shouldn’t we demand “standards” within the church leadership - and if you don’t comply, you are “unlicensed”?

Believing in a physical resurrection comes to mind...marriage being between one man and one woman being another...Jesus being THE Truth, the Way and the Life another…

[17] Posted by B. Hunter on 03-24-2008 at 11:54 AM

#3 Anglican Xn,
I’m not entirely sure about what you wrote--is just believing in Jesus as your Saviour enough for salvation, or does one need to believe in Jesus also as Lord of one’s life?
And if faith is a gift from God, won’t His Spirit give us the faith necessary to believe in Jesus as both Saviour and Lord?
Of course, at times we are weak, and sinful…
But if Jesus is Lord, then wouldn’t he or she pray and yearn for submission to His will and to His word?
Just thinking out loud, but I’m the first to agree I’m not learned in the field of theology.
However, my answer is No, one cannot be saved and a follower of Christ without believing in the bodily resurrection of Jesus.
Jane, Edwin’s wife

[18] Posted by Edwin on 03-24-2008 at 01:51 PM

#17 - Absolutely you need standards.  But who is to enforce.  We can have all the “words” we want, Bible, 45 Articles, 39 Articles, 20 Articles, 10 Articles, 6 Articles, new Anglican Covenant - ad-nausem.  But if there is no enforcement mechanism (Magisterium) , it’s all for naught.

[19] Posted by star-ace on 03-24-2008 at 02:05 PM

But if there is no enforcement mechanism

OMGosh!!!!! I never thought I would ever agree with star-ace! But, on this particular subject I find myself in agreement with him. Not sure if a Magisterium is the right answer, but something unlike to it I feel needs to be put into place since TEc is obviously not effective enough to discipline itself and the WWAC is ignored when it asks TEc not to go forward on something and like a spoiled brat child does it anyway. The Time Out process is clearly not working.

[20] Posted by One Day Closer on 03-24-2008 at 02:13 PM

Great answer, Snarkster! Here is something additional: to be a Moslem one believes in Mohammed and obeys the Quran.  To be a Jew one believes in Yahweh and obeys Torah.  To be a Christian one believes in the Resurrected Christ Jesus and obeys His commandment.

[21] Posted by Alice Linsley on 03-24-2008 at 02:14 PM

#20 - ODC, I was using the term “Magisterium” in a general sense.  Perhaps a Council of Primates, or a two-level situation whereby these issues would be worked out locally first, with an appreal to the Council - or - whatever.

In the good ‘ole USA we have congress (legislative), The President (executive) and The Supreme Court (interpretive).  We wouldn’t work if we abandoned this setup.  That’s essentially what the Calvinists (and Luther) did.  NOTE: 2-3 Eourpean Lutheran groups have retained the office of Bishop.  I’m not sure of it’s scope.

My understanding is that The Southern Cone has a somewhat stringer Primate.  However, that’s relative to TEC, which does not say a lot.

But you still have to make sure that the right folks are in place.  The Charismatic Episcopal Church had a strong central administration, but self-destructed when the Primate went haywire.  It took 3-4 years to force him out, and in the meantime, the CEC self-destructed.  He was probably a “liteweight” to have the job in the first place - main credentials, participated in Operation Rescue.

[22] Posted by star-ace on 03-24-2008 at 04:25 PM
[23] Posted by dwstroudmd on 03-24-2008 at 08:46 PM

When I said earlier (#3) that it is possible to be a Christian and not believe in the physical resurrection of Christ, I was far from intending to say that it is perfectly fine not to believe in the resurrection.  If one admits that he is a sinner deserving rejection, turns to Jesus as the one who bore the punishment for sin, and appeals for mercy on the basis of Jesus’ death, then that person is forgiven and reconciled to God.

We are saved by Jesus, and not by our theology.  Of course, if we are truly reconciled to God, we will come to accept all the tenets of the Creeds and learn how to trust the Bible as God revealed Word.  Sound theology will flow out of a living relationship to God and out of fellowship with other believers.  A new Christian has a lot to learn, and an old Christian needs always to be submitting his mind and heart to God’s Word in reliance upon the Holy Spirit to understand more fully and more deeply.

Romans 10 does indicate that belief that Jesus rose from the dead is part of the very basics of the Christian faith.  At the same time, one might not belief in the resurrection at the time one appeals to Jesus for mercy.  A flat-out rejection of Jesus’ resurrection after some time would give me cause to wonder if the original statement of faith were genuine.

In any event, those who reject the resurrection should not be allowed to attain positions of leadership.  Putting a 10-month-old in charge of the pre-school is neither wise nor effective.  Neither is appointing someone who denies elements of the Creeds.

[24] Posted by AnglicanXn on 03-24-2008 at 09:14 PM

My answer to the question is an unqualified YES.  PERIOD.

[25] Posted by Cennydd on 03-24-2008 at 10:05 PM

Personally, I don’t think you’ve “attained” Christianity until the resurrection becomes an amazing given for you.  It is the central leap of faith that allows Christ to be alive for you today.  If their was no resurrection, then you cannot have a relationship with Him today, and you are dead in the water, from a Christian perspective.

We are, after all, Easter Folk.  Without Easter, we’re just fans of ceremony and history.

KTF!...mrb

[26] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 03-24-2008 at 11:15 PM

I personally feel that Pure Land Buddhism (or Amidism) is a misrepresentation of the original Buddhist teachings. In fact, I might go so far as to say that they misrepresent the core teachings (certainly of the much older Therevada tradition). But are they Buddhists? Not to my liking, perhaps, but who am I to deny their faith?
Phil - for whom I have a lot of respect - normally does better than this:

Must one believe in mathematics to be a mathematician?
Must one believe in science to be a scientist?
Must one believe in weather to be a weatherman?
Must one believe in the law to be a lawyer?
Must one believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ to be a Christian?

Symmetry would make the last line Must one believe in Christ to be a Christian?.
I understand that for most readers at SFIF, bodily resurrection is an important part of their faith. For many Christians, it is not. These Christians may be, in your opinion, anything from misguided to heretics of the worst order. But neither you nor I are the final judge; that role has already been reserved.

[27] Posted by Denbeau on 03-25-2008 at 05:54 AM

I liked [26] Mike Bertaut’s “It is the central leap of faith that allows Christ to be alive for you today.”
People confuse ‘believe’ with ‘rationally understand’. No, I do not rationally understand the Resurrection. But, yes, I trust in the Resurrection.

[28] Posted by Deja Vu on 03-25-2008 at 09:31 AM

Dear Denbeau,
Scripture states that faith without belief in a risen Christ (yes, bodily resurrection) is vain and foolish, and that belief in that resurrection is an integral part of salvation.
You’re right, God is the ultimate judge of all of us, yet He does instruct us, in His word, in what is true and what is false .  And we are to judge thoughts and actions, so that we can avoid, and even flee, those people who teach and do that which is false.
There are some “grey” areas that we cannot judge, and we cannot judge the heart--is that heart lost and confused from past hurts?  Is that heart seeking God or actively running from Him?  Is that heart beyond God’s reach? (Never, BTW, imho)
But we can know and judge, by a person’s fruits, if that person is following Christ or not.  Maybe they’ve slipped away from Christ, maybe they’ve never met Christ…
However, when Scripture states that belief in the resurrection of Christ is necessary for salvation, then I must judge that a person denying the resurrection is, at that moment, denying Christ.
Jane, Edwin’s wife

[29] Posted by Edwin on 03-25-2008 at 09:49 AM

Jane,
I appreciate the calm response, and I recognize and acknowledge your position. I am not a literalist, and I am a pluralist. I understand that my understanding of Christianity is not yours. I have no problem if you or others are to say “He’s not my kind of Christian” or “His understanding of Christianity differs from mine”. My objection comes only if someone tries to say that I am not a Christian; that is not for them to judge.

[30] Posted by Denbeau on 03-25-2008 at 11:11 AM

Whoever thinks it possible to be a Christian while not believing in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ and those baptized into HIS death and Resurrection, doesn’t know what Christianity is.

[31] Posted by Alice Linsley on 03-25-2008 at 11:26 AM

Whoever thinks it possible to be a Christian while not believing in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ and those baptized into HIS death and Resurrection, doesn’t know what Christianity is.

This is exactly my point. I understand your Christianity, and I disagree with some of it. However, I recognize you as a Christian, and I don’t in any way attempt to deny your Christianity. What do you not understand about “You are not my judge”. I am a Christian. We understand different parts of scripture in different ways. We shouldn’t be wasting our time battling in this blog; but rather getting out there and spreading the Good News.

[32] Posted by Denbeau on 03-25-2008 at 11:38 AM

And the “Good News” you are spreading, Denbeau, is exactly what?

[33] Posted by Deja Vu on 03-25-2008 at 11:48 AM

I think there are limits to orthodox belief and it is the church’s responsibility, under Scripture, to affirm those limits. This should be publicly expressed most strongly in the ministry of priests and bishops, whose task is to hold the church to its apostolic witness, and guard it in that unity of faith which is Christ’s will.

Denbeau, you are a “pluralist”. Of course you think that no one should be able to say that you are in error. You seem tolerant but you are actually insisting that everyone else be a “pluralist” too. For many of us are not “pluralists” with regard to the truth of doctrines. Thus not only can the church, but it should, do all it can to correct those who are in error.

There is a special category in classical Anglican theology for matters on which church members may legitimately take differing views. Such things are called adiaphora - “matters of indifference”.  Matters that are neither commanded by God’s word nor prohibited. Belief in the bodily resurrection of Christ is not an adiaphoron. The Church rightly demands assent to it from her members, whether they understand it or not. You may of course dissent but at least have the directness to say, the Church believes this, but I disagree.

[34] Posted by driver8 on 03-25-2008 at 11:57 AM

Driver8, I am not insisting that anyone else believe what I believe, or that anyone else be a pluralist. Because I realized that my beliefs were outside the scope of traditional Anglican beliefs, I left he Anglican Church and joined the United Church of Canada. There is much that I loved, and still love, in the Anglican Church. I just wasn’t comfortable with a few core items, so I sought - and found - a Christian church that was closer to my beliefs (and in the background, I can hear a chorus of “Now, if we could only get them all to leave” grin )
Deja Vu, I’m glad you asked:

We are not alone,

we live in God’s world.

We believe in God:
who has created and is creating,
who has come in Jesus,
the Word made flesh,
to reconcile and make new,
who works in us and others
by the Spirit.

We trust in God.

We are called to be the Church:
to celebrate God’s presence,
to live with respect in Creation,
to love and serve others,
to seek justice and resist evil,
to proclaim Jesus, crucified and risen,
our judge and our hope.
In life, in death, in life beyond death,
God is with us.

We are not alone.

Thanks be to God.

[35] Posted by Denbeau on 03-25-2008 at 12:15 PM

Dear Denbeau,
First, please don’t assume that I am a literalist; ie, that there is no room in the Bible for literary techniques such as poetry, similes, metaphors, etc.  I’m wondering if you are in some way dismissing my remarks because of your assumptions.

when Scripture states that belief in the resurrection of Christ is necessary for salvation, then I must judge that a person denying the resurrection is, at that moment, denying Christ


and if a person persists in denying the risen Christ, then as a Christian, I must question that person’s salvation---both in order to try and witness to and pray for that person, and to be wary of that person’s talk and actions.
Jane, Edwin’s wife
[36] Posted by Edwin on 03-25-2008 at 12:18 PM

This is exactly my point. I understand your Christianity, and I disagree with some of it. However, I recognize you as a Christian, and I don’t in any way attempt to deny your Christianity. What do you not understand about “You are not my judge”. I am a Christian.

In this passage you seem tolerant but your request actually demands that everyone act as you do, that is as if “pluralism” concerning theological doctrines were true.

However I don’t think “pluralism” in this matter is true. So not only can I, but I should be concerned about the error in your understanding. I think you are mistaken concerning the truth of the bodily resurrection. I think this mistake matters because it involves you in believing a falsehood about a most significant truth concerning Jesus Christ and God’s purposes for creation.

[37] Posted by driver8 on 03-25-2008 at 12:32 PM

Denbeau -
It sounds so loving and kind to say that “we must agree to disagree.” But you fail to recognize the cruelty of your position. We are talking about matters of (eternal) life and death, here. In earlier parts of Christian history, your position would have been labeled as heresy and you would have been excommunicated from the Church if you failed to repent of it. Nor would you be allowed to spread your heresy to other members of the Body of Christ.
It would not be non-judgmental but unloving for us not to point out your error. That is all we are doing. The judgment we leave to the Lord of Lords. He is the one with Whom you differ.

[38] Posted by Allen Lewis on 03-25-2008 at 12:58 PM

Allen, thank you for the gentleness of that response (and I mean it ... sarcasm and cynicism are currently turned off). I appreciate your final paragraph; your point about silence being unloving is very good, and an admonition that I should take to heart (i.e. when I disagree with someone on issues such as this, I must always be open to Christian love). Regardless of how we disagree, I fully accept that the judgment belongs to God.

[39] Posted by Denbeau on 03-25-2008 at 01:25 PM

Then again I ask, as I have so many times, how did this person get elevated to the priesthood?

Well, at risk of offending people with stereotypes, perhaps it has to do with the Episcopal Church being dominated by generations of blue-bloods who treated it as a social club rather than as the Body of Christ or organizations to spread the Word of God.  Anyone remember Thomas Jefferson’s Gospel?  And he was a vestryman!  Someone in another thread said something about the PECUSA trying to drop some of the 39 Articles and the Nicean Creed when it was first formed.  Anyone know anything about that?

Actually, I think someone on this blog should start an open thread on the question:  What has made the Protestant Episcopal Church of the United States so darn vulnerable to heresy?  Don’t just give the usualy litany of heretical bishops over the last 50 years, ask yourself the deeper question of how such people came to be ordained to begin with, and why they choose to be ordained in the PECUSA.

[40] Posted by AndrewA on 03-26-2008 at 11:01 AM

Why, of COURSE not! All you have to do to be a Christian is be a “baptised person”. Where have you all been?

[41] Posted by Bob K. on 03-27-2008 at 11:45 AM

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