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Dr. Mengele, I presume?
Monday, March 24, 2008 • 3:53 pm

The Ugley Vicar blogs on the UK Embryology Bill.
In an article in the Times today, William Rees-Mogg asks, “Whatever happened to the ‘yuk’ factor.” Referring to the passage of the Human Fertilisaiton and Embryology Bill through the House of Lords, he writes, “In 1990 it was not just the hereditary peers who found the idea of animal-human hybrids simply too disgusting to be tolerated. It was the common response, the “yuk” factor as a test of the limits of scientific experimentation.”

Yet that ‘yuk’ has been overcome, and it is surely a significant signpost as to where our civilization is going, especially compared with whence it has come.

The end of the Second World War revealed to the general public the true extent of what had been happening in Nazi Germany, particularly in the concentration camps.

One aspect of these camps which caused particular horror was that human beings had been used as subjects for scientific experiments. The mere name of Dr Josef Mengele was enough to send a shudder of horror through anyone in these islands who knew what he had done in the name of ‘medicine’.

The horror, however, was not chiefly at the nature of the experiments themselves. It must remembered, these were the days when vivisection was regularly carried out, not only in search of cures for diseases, but to test cosmetics — and even out of sheer curiosity. Remember Pavlov’s dogs?

The Times article can be found here. Be sure to read the comments.
Comments:

England told God to p&^% off and it is showing. Let Islam have have them, like the Assyrians and Babylonians to the ancient Israelites. And yes the comments are creepy and disturbing.

[1] Posted by Anglo-Catholic-Jihadi on 03-24-2008 at 06:08 PM

Most people have made science not only into an idol but into their new “GOD”!!!  Truly, when people forget what Mengele and his Soviet equivalents (notably in psychiatry!) were doing and out to do, the same atrocities will end up being repeated and worse…

When people forget morality (upon which ALL the foundations of society one way or the other rest - and that includes basic scientific principles and parameters), immorality takes over…

[2] Posted by Sasha on 03-24-2008 at 07:05 PM

Reading the comments accompanying the linked article are painfull and they reminde me of a book title for a book printed and then withdrawn at the last minute:

“Wissenschaft Ohne Menschlichkeit; Medizinesche und Eugenische Irrwege, Unter Diktatur - Burokratie und Krieg”

“Knowledge Without Humanity; Medical and Eugenic Studies, Under [a] Dictator - Bureaucracy and War”

Published by Lambert Schneider, Heidelberg 1949, the book was an account of the Nazi medical experiments (complete with black & white Nazi documentary movie stills) that was to be placed in medical libraries by the West German Physician’s association as an object lesson and warning.

(If the book was not ultimately published, I may have one of only a handful of surviving copies.)

[3] Posted by Justin Martyr on 03-24-2008 at 10:48 PM

So sad, the deconstruction of Great Britain under New Labour.  When I look at the seismic changes for the worse in Britaish society from my first sojourn there in 1972 to my most recent last summer, it’s very depressing.

Of course there have, in many ways, been similar changes here as well.

[4] Posted by evan miller on 03-25-2008 at 09:33 AM

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