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Episcopal Church Thanked at End of Political Video

Friday, June 20, 2008 • 8:49 pm

By now you may have seen press coverage of a new viral video entitled “I’m Voting Republican” in which numerous people give facetious reasons for voting GOP this November, all of them echoing liberal memes about conservatives and Republicans.

But checking the credits, I came across something that caught my eye, the “Special Thanks” portion of the video credits. One thing in particular stood out, a note of thanks to “All Saints’ Episcopal Church.”

Read it all here.

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Perhaps the Republicans should counter with this classic?

[1] Posted by slanehill on 06-20-2008 at 09:40 PM • top


That is great!

[2] Posted by BillB on 06-20-2008 at 09:55 PM • top

Hey, no biggy, this is all part of the Spirit’s NEW THING (Patient Pending - The General Convention Church).  Now move along please.


[3] Posted by RS Bunker on 06-20-2008 at 10:08 PM • top

The religious progressives are almost without exception political progressives.  They have no respect for opponents, whether religious or political.

[4] Posted by Katherine on 06-21-2008 at 12:55 AM • top

Okay, now I’m upset.  I thought this would be All Saints, Pasadena.  Nope, it’s All Saints, Phoenix, where I was confirmed back in the day.  It was at that time a bastion of solid belief.  A cruise of their website shows no overtly political stuff, but no conservative or non-TEC links, either.  How are the mighty fallen—unless this video connection was done without the parish’s permission.

[5] Posted by Katherine on 06-21-2008 at 02:20 AM • top

When the church appears in a partisan political video, it seems to me it’s time to ask the IRS to take a look at their non-taxable status. They have become a lobbying group, not a church.

[6] Posted by NancyNH on 06-21-2008 at 05:27 AM • top

I agreee, NancyNH.  Someone should complain to the IRS to have the church that supported this political campaign ad investigated.

[7] Posted by Seen-Too-Much on 06-21-2008 at 06:52 AM • top

And let’s not forget Gene Robinson endorsing Obama.

TEC is nothing but a political movement now, and long overdue for IRS inspection.  They can start paying their taxes like every other political organization.

[8] Posted by st. anonymous on 06-21-2008 at 07:54 AM • top

Will this be investigated by the IRS?  I’m thinking not.

[9] Posted by GoodMissMurphy on 06-21-2008 at 08:01 AM • top

#3. Hey, no biggy, this is all part of the Spirit’s NEW THING (Patient Pending - The General Convention Church).  Now move along please.

We have to remember that there are different kinds of spirits out there.

God’s truth and will have been revealed through written Scripture, as well as (to some extent) tradition. The traditional test for the latter being the “quod ubique, quod semper, quod ab omnibus credituni est” (that which has been believed everywhere, always, by all) of Vincent of Lerins.

There’s a lot of amateur spirituality going on out there these days, and it would seem that not a few clergy are dabbling with some of the great forces of God’s universe without proper spiritual preparation. As far as I can tell, seminary curricula are ordered by this present Enlightenment era of intellectual Pharisaism. Pragmatic Mysticism 101 and 201 seem not to be in the catalogues.

It needs to be said, over and over again, that the devil has been given the power of deception. Evil takes many forms, some them appearing to be quite good at first. The devil and his legions have the authority to appear in visions as deity and angels, AND THEY DO. The intent is diversion, subterfuge, sabotage - AND THEY ARE VERY EXPERT AT IT.

When an apparent “deity” or “angel” appears to an individual in a vision, teaching a “new thing”, chances are very good that it’s merely the devil (or one of his colleagues), teaching a very old thing. Evil. He waits for you (believing that he’s God) to invite him in.

The devil ALWAYS comes to people who reach beyond the 5 senses in Christian mystical practice, just as the devil came to Jesus in the wilderness.

God does too, of course.

[10] Posted by Ralph on 06-21-2008 at 08:18 AM • top

OK, I know the Devil needs no advocate, but if you’re making a film and you need a stained-glass window, you go to a church.  And probably it’s best to go to a church that won’t oppose your political view.  But as offensive as the message of the film, and as dopey as the church is for participating, I don’t think this is grounds for yanking their 501(c)3. 

All Saints, Pasadena, now, that’s another matter.  They preach politics from the pulpit and march in parades and generally have supplanted the Gospel for party planks.  That is another animal, entirely.

[11] Posted by Cindy T. in TX on 06-21-2008 at 08:24 AM • top

I particuarly liked the “I’m voting Republican so my child can have 30 other children in her classroom” bit. Well, I went to school in a time where 30 children in a classroom wasn’t unusual and double sessions were the norm. Somehow, I still managed to become a NASA engineer and helped in the grand adventure of putting a man on the moon in less than 10 years. It wasn’t a problem having over 30 chilren in a class in the 1950’s because most children back then behaved and respected their teachers. Today you can have class sizes under 15 and with the student behavior being tolerated by parents and educators, still graduate students ill prepared to accomplish anything with their life. Politics and Politicians love to hide the real problem and play up phony issues.

[12] Posted by Miata on 06-21-2008 at 09:20 AM • top

Great! Another reason I have to be at odds with TEC. My dear, I wish you were not so observant.

[13] Posted by FrVan on 06-21-2008 at 09:23 AM • top

But, but, but… isn’t Michael Moore fictodrama patented and won’t they get sued for infringement of stupidity? The producers, I mean.  We already have the answer about the ECUSA/TEC/GCC/EO-PAC.

[14] Posted by dwstroudmd+ on 06-21-2008 at 12:40 PM • top

A forum I participate in is populated by extreme liberals.  Since the forum is not political it usually does not matter.  But someone posted that video and I let loose.  I discovered that when it comes to politics or social issues extreme liberal do not listen to reason, they do not understand logic and they do engage in personal attacks.  Since these defects in character only show up when such issues are broached I have learned to avoid posts where these things are discussed.
But it still shocked and dissapointed me that the malicious view of Republicans voiced in that video is seen as Gospel Truth.

And I can tell you without any hesitation that extreme liberals are extremely hostile to any expression of orthodox Christianity.  But Catholicism is downright hated.

[15] Posted by Paula Loughlin on 06-21-2008 at 01:29 PM • top

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[16] Posted by Paula Loughlin on 06-21-2008 at 01:33 PM • top

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[17] Posted by Paula Loughlin on 06-21-2008 at 01:36 PM • top

#5, know how you feel, my daughter was baptized there in better times. I seriously doubt there is a TEO parish left anywhere in the state that one could describe as ‘a bastion of solid belief.’ I also wonder how many parents sending their kids to the school there would like the ad. Although the answer would likely dismay me.

[18] Posted by Enough on 06-21-2008 at 09:21 PM • top

[12] Miata,

Your comment

Well, I went to school in a time where 30 children in a classroom wasn’t unusual and double sessions were the norm. Somehow, I still managed to become a NASA engineer and helped in the grand adventure of putting a man on the moon

reminds me of why I am convinced that the U.S. public education system is, in many ways, failing. We are obviously of a roughly similar age, which means we attended school in this country when that system was actually willing and able to educate students, a capacity that has, largely, been steadily diminishing in the typical U.S. public school ever since.

My mother worked for the prime contractor for the Apollo Command and Service Modules. I managed to successfully compete for one of their four year college scholarships, which also included summer jobs for the asking. The third summer after I graduated high school (the summer immediately following the fatal Apollo launch pad fire), my summer job was reading blueprints for the Command Module, determining from the drawing and bill of materials what non-metallic materials were exposed to the 16 psia pure O<sub>2</sub> launch environment, and what the quantity and exposed surface area was. I also had worked there in the prior summers as an Engingeering Messenger and in the Reproduction (electrostatic and photographic) Department.

Blessings and regards,
Martial Artist

[19] Posted by Militaris Artifex on 06-21-2008 at 11:30 PM • top

6,7,8 and 9—TEC has a multi-million dollar lobbying office in Washington. Most people don’t even know it. In 1997 in Philidelphia I went the the budget hearings and suggested we get rid of it.  I believe if there had been wood and nails available, I would have been crucufied on the spot.  I wish I had caught on at the time, but alas, I didn’t.

[20] Posted by David Keller on 06-22-2008 at 10:14 AM • top

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