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The Agenda for Thursday: Sex Day at Lambeth

Thursday, July 31, 2008 • 2:03 am

Today is sex day at Lambeth. The theme is “The Bishop and Human Sexuality”.

Here’s the agenda:

Listening to God and each other: the bishop and human sexuality
06:30 Morning Prayer with the Chaplaincy Team
07:15 Eucharist : Burundi Colossians 3:1-11 John 13:31-14:17 I am the Way, the Truth and the Life
08:15 Breakfast
09:15 Bible Study Groups – John 13 : 31 – 14 : 14 I am the Way , the Truth and the Life
10:30 Tea
11:00 Indaba Group: Listening to God and Each Other – the bishop and human sexuality
13:00 Lunch
14:00 Hearings Conference Reflections 3
14:30 Free Afternoon
15:30 Tea
16:00 Self-select sessions
17:45 Evening Prayer - Informal - Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia
19:00 Evening Meal
20:00 Free evening
21:45 Night Prayer

And, you will notice, the bible study groups will be “wrestling” at least in part with John 14:6. which, in hindsight, may have been more appropriate on Monday which was many-vehicles-to-the-divine day than today which is sex day.

In any case, I’ll do my best to bring the press conferences to you live, finish correcting and post the conclusion the “African Voices” live blog from Tuesday, and, hopefully, work in an analysis piece if possible. Sarah and I have divided the labor here. I’ve been focusing on news gathering and live-blogging while she has been connecting with bishops for interviews and we both, when we get a chance, try to squeeze in analysis work.

The third draft of the Reflections document will be available this afternoon. Here are drafts one and two. This time I expect the bishops will have had something to say about human sexuality.  You’ll notice that the section entitled “human sexuality” has been left blank on both of the first two drafts.

To top off sex day Claiming the Blessing will present the following theatrical performance:

Claiming the Blessing: Seven Passages: The Stories of Gay Christians; Compiled from the stories of gay Christians, Seven Passages is a play that looks at one of the deepest conflicts in contemporary culture. Reconciliation is sought through these compelling stories.

Don’t you wish you were here?

 


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I’d have loved a shot a tea with the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, Her Majesty the Queen!!

I think the bible studies would be nice.

And I love to argue so ‘adabadabado’ meetings might be cool.

But ‘I’m a sinner and I ain’t gonna change’ wouldn’t be a thing I could sit quietly for….

[1] Posted by Bo on 07-31-2008 at 01:35 AM • top

Lovely.  From 11:00 to 13:00, two whole hours to discuss human sexual behavior, split into carefully-designed groups of forty where traditional voices may easily be drowned by the verbosity of Western revisionists.

[2] Posted by Katherine on 07-31-2008 at 03:30 AM • top

“Let’s talk about sex.  Who wants to go first?”

You can just see it - can’t you?

[3] Posted by Pageantmaster [Free Archbishop Cranmer] on 07-31-2008 at 03:43 AM • top

After being told yesterday that they’re all potential wife abusers, I wonder if the male bishops are going to be too happy today.  Possibly the gay activists should have been more careful not to insult the large majority right before this topic comes up?

[4] Posted by Katherine on 07-31-2008 at 04:16 AM • top

It looks like another gay bishop just jumped out of the closet to mark the listening day? . And a Global South bishop as well? Is he a currently serving bishop?

[5] Posted by Observing on 07-31-2008 at 04:19 AM • top

It has been known for a while that this bishop has a “dodgy” sexual orientation.  However, he is not (as far as I know) living in a same-sex relationship and he has not (again, as far as I know) admitted to same-sex sexual activity.

He is a man weshould pray for.  The progressives want to claim him, and hint that he is indeed sexually active—but I believe that he is faithful in putting Christ and his Kingdom first, and is an example of someone who is obedient under difficult circumstances.

[6] Posted by AnglicanXn on 07-31-2008 at 04:31 AM • top

Matt+, there has be a reason why “our guys” (+Iker, etc) have suddenly shut up.  The perception (and perception is everything) seems to be they’re just standing by while this excuse of a conference gets worse and worse.  Any clues?

[7] Posted by bigjimintx on 07-31-2008 at 04:40 AM • top

#6 Thanks. According to this report he is indeed single.

[8] Posted by Observing on 07-31-2008 at 04:43 AM • top

The same-sex activists like to claim anyone who experiences same-sex attraction as one of them, because they do not distinguish between attraction and action.  There is no doubt that single people with an interest in either sex are called to abstinence, that this is difficult for many, and that some fall into sin and repent.

[9] Posted by Katherine on 07-31-2008 at 04:56 AM • top

Remember when Debbi Reynolds sang this?

(Arthur Fields and Walter Donovan)

Aba daba daba daba daba daba dab
Means monk I love but you
Baba daba dab
In monkey talk means chimp I love you too
Then the big baboon one night in June
He married them and very soon
They went upon their aba daba honeymoon

Way down in the congo land
Live a happy chimpanzee
She loved a monkey with a long tail
Lordy how she loved him
Each night he would find her there
Swingin’ in the coconut tree
And the monkey gay
At the break of day
Like to hear the chimpie say

Aba daba daba daba daba daba dab
Said the chimpie to the monk
Baba daba daba daba daba daba dab
Said the monkey to the chimp
All night long they’d chatter away
All day long they were happy and gay
Swingin’ and singin’ in their
Honky tonky way

Aba daba daba daba daba daba dab
Means monk I love but you
Baba daba dab in monkey talk
Means chimp I love you too
Then the big baboon one night in June
He married them and very soon
They went upon their aba daba honeymoon

One night they were made man and wife
And now they cry this is the life
Since they came from their aba daba honeymoon

[10] Posted by Sarah Hey has a hidden agenda on 07-31-2008 at 05:01 AM • top

Also:

“Yabba dabba doo!”

Fred Flintstone

[11] Posted by Sarah Hey has a hidden agenda on 07-31-2008 at 05:02 AM • top

Don’t you wish you were here?

This is why we pay you the big bucks ... ;-p

[12] Posted by Hosea6:6 on 07-31-2008 at 05:11 AM • top

I do hope Sarah is able to get some time with +Iker and +Stanton, and a few others. I’d really like their take on this mess.

[13] Posted by bob+ on 07-31-2008 at 06:17 AM • top

Listening to God and Each Other – the bishop and human sexuality

Isn’t it odd that all we have to “listen to God and each other” about is sex?

[14] Posted by oscewicee on 07-31-2008 at 06:28 AM • top

So, has anyone changed their mind?  Any positions changed?  What is supposed to be the outcome here?

[15] Posted by Paul B on 07-31-2008 at 06:30 AM • top

If you have ever been in one of those situation where there is that “uncomfortable silence” , that eventually someone blurts into - perhaps that’s what is happening at Lambeth. Iker and Co. are being quiet to let the progressives progress from their “talking points” to blurting silliness (Roskam?) to fill in the “uncomfortable silence” by the orthodox. All the orthodoz have to do is patiently be quiet and wait - the progressives will fidget and writhe in the quiet and keep blurting out embarassing statements until it is time for the orthodox to speak - plainly quietly and powerfully to the heart of the matter (hopefully - or as a wise old man once told me, “son, it is sometimes better to keep your mouth shut and be thought wise, than to open it and prove beyond doubt you are a fool”), as they have in the past.

[16] Posted by masternav on 07-31-2008 at 08:01 AM • top

Do I wish I were there? Of course not!
And I wish you weren’t there either, because it is obviously spiritually dangerous. However, you have probably been called to record this time in Anglican Communion History. But as funny as this stuff sounds, it is “bent and broken” in the classic Christian sense and so please be very careful to stay close to God and pray without ceasing. You are in my prayers.

[17] Posted by Margaret on 07-31-2008 at 09:12 AM • top

#15 Paul B “What is supposed to be the outcome here?”

We are all supposed to gaze into each others eyes, acknowledging in wonder the Christian worth of the heterox other in a great warm cloud of sparkly foggy unknowing.

[18] Posted by Pageantmaster [Free Archbishop Cranmer] on 07-31-2008 at 09:40 AM • top

Pageantmaster, I think they will need to pass around a lot of pot for that. :-(

[19] Posted by oscewicee on 07-31-2008 at 09:46 AM • top

#19 Oh dear! LOL

[20] Posted by Pageantmaster [Free Archbishop Cranmer] on 07-31-2008 at 09:56 AM • top

“Let’s talk about sex.  Who wants to go first?” You can just see it - can’t you?

The little blue pill, pass it quick!

[21] Posted by FrVan on 07-31-2008 at 09:59 AM • top

Why don’t they just listen to God, too many voices leads to confusion and error. God told us what He wants for us. What’s to discuss?

[22] Posted by kalee on 07-31-2008 at 10:04 AM • top

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