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The Falls Church & Truro Church Respond to Bishop Lee’s Letter

Friday, December 8, 2006 • 6:54 am

As to your suggestion that, if our vestry members continue to act in reliance upon these assurances, they may have acted in “bad faith” or engaged in “willful misconduct,” we have acted in good faith, and with clean hands, in reliance upon the representations of you and the Diocese. We have also relied on public pronouncements of the then-Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold that property matters are to be resolved at the diocesan level. And, of course, our counsel have advised us that the canons are subject to Virginia law. We have previously provided your chancellor with a summary of that law, which notes that Virginia law does not recognize an express trust, let alone an implied trust, in favor of denominations such as the Episcopal Church. Given this plain rule of law, it is our position that the Diocese does not have a valid claim to ownership of our property under a theory of express or implied trust.

In any event, we must ask that you not purport to instruct our vestry and clergy on civil law. (Your letter has a section entitled “Potential Personal Liability,” in which you discuss civil court decisions, and at several other points in the letter you reference purported civil law obligations.) As you have known for some time, they are represented by counsel and any discussion of these legal obligations should be directed to Winston & Strawn, 1700 K Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006; Attn: Steffen N. Johnson; and to our chancellors, A. Hugo Blankingship, Jr. (The Falls Church) and Robert M. Dilling (Truro Church). Any attempt by the Episcopal Church or the Diocese to interfere with our interests, including any further attempt to interfere with our discernment process or our congregational vote, will be met with the strongest possible response, including legal defense.

December 2, 2006
The Rt. Rev. Peter James Lee -- VIA FACSIMILE --
The Diocese of Virginia AND U.S. MAIL
10 West Franklin Street
Richmond, VA 23220
Dear Bishop Lee,
We are profoundly grieved that we must send this letter. We feel compelled, however, to respond to your letter of December 1, 2006, in which you set forth your position on certain canonical and legal issues associated with the current situation. We are writing to you as the senior wardens of The Falls Church and Truro Church.

We respectfully request that you reflect on why it is that we all find ourselves in the current predicament. The Episcopal Church has departed from the basic tenets of historic Christianity, including the authority of the Holy Scriptures and the uniqueness of Jesus Christ as the only Lord and Savior of humankind. The actions of the Episcopal Church at its 2003 and 2006 General Conventions and the resulting division are simply the most visible symptoms of these grievous errors in doctrine.

When the New Hampshire election of a practicing homosexual bishop was to be a possibility, and to be presented to the 2003 General Convention for confirmation, each of the four Instruments of Unity of the Anglican Communion - namely, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Primates Meeting, the Anglican Consultative Council, and the Lambeth Conference by its Resolution 1:10 - had warned that serious damage would occur.

The 2003 General Convention approved the election. You and a majority of the Virginia deputation to the House of Deputies concurred in that decision, notwithstanding clear diocesan policy to the contrary. Moreover, you personally were a leading proponent of Resolution 051, which stated "that local faith communities are operating within the bounds of our common life as they explore and experience liturgies celebrating and blessing same-sex unions."

In the wake of these decisions, the Archbishop of Canterbury called an emergency meeting of the Primates at Lambeth Palace. The Primates’ unanimous decision in October 2003 stated that if the consecration went forward, it would "tear the fabric of the Communion at its deepest level, and may lead to further division." The then-Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church signed this unanimous decree. Shortly thereafter, he returned to the United States and, along with a large number of American bishops, proceeded with the consecration. That action, which you supported, inflicted the serious consequences and damages predicted by the Primates. Indeed, 22 of 38 Provinces ultimately declared broken or impaired communion with the Episcopal Church, creating an acknowledged division within the Communion. As the Global South Primates observed, the Episcopal Church "cut themselves adrift and broke[] the sacramental fellowship of the Communion." As others have observed, the Episcopal Church violated the ancient church maxim: "What concerns all should be decided by all."

The Primates’ resolution also called for a commission, which produced the Windsor Report in October 2004. The Windsor Report advised that Lambeth Resolution 1:10 (which you supported) was the official position of the Communion, and it admonished the Episcopal Church to reconsider its position. The Windsor Report also recommended that the Episcopal Church take specific steps to express its "desire ... to remain within the Communion," explaining that "[s]hould the call to halt ... not be heeded, then we shall have to begin to learn to walk apart." In 2005, the Primates and the Anglican Consultative Council endorsed those recommendations of The Windsor Report and called for the Episcopal Church to comply with those recommendations at its 2006 General Convention. Notwithstanding that admonition, the Episcopal Church chose to "walk apart" from the rest of the Communion. The 2006 General Convention did not change the Episcopal Church’s earlier position. The feeble response of the 2006 General Convention has been tried in the balance of Communion opinion, and has been found wanting. As the Archbishop of Canterbury put it with characteristic understatement: "The recent resolutions of the General Convention have not produced a complete response to the challenges of the Windsor Report." Bishops in the Anglican Communion undertake the solemn responsibility to strive "with all faithful diligence to banish and drive away from the Church all erroneous and strange doctrine contrary to God’s word; and both privately and openly to call upon and encourage others to do the same." 1928 Book of Common Prayer, p. 555. Until 1979, this solemn oath was a part of the Ordinal in our Book of Common Prayer. Although this oath was removed, to the distress of many orthodox believers, American bishops at their consecration are welcomed into the governance of the whole Church and charged to guard its unity.

This unity derives from a shared commitment to and teaching of Biblical theology, which has been codified by the early Church in the three Creeds (Apostles’, Nicene, and Athanasian) included in our own Book of Common Prayer. The Anglican tradition also stands upon the teaching of the 39 Articles of Religion (also found in the Book of Common Prayer), which state that "it is not lawful for the Church to ordain any thing that is contrary to God’s Word written." Article XX. Notably, your letter contains more than 15 references to constitutional and canonical provisions, by which you seek to intimidate and control our vestries and congregations. By contrast, your letter contains no reference whatsoever to the Bible, which is the true and foundational basis for our existence as part of the Church of Jesus Christ. The Apostle Paul wrote that "[a]ll Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." 2 Timothy 3:16. And Jesus said that "[w]hoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and so teaches others, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:19.

The damage and disarray within the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion is clearly laid at the doorstep of those bishops who have failed in their duty to uphold this unity and the teaching of the Church. Historically, schism is usually caused by bishops of the Church (as well as theologians and others) teaching and promulgating heresy. We wrote to you directly about this concern in the letter from The Falls Church vestry, dated October 4, 2005. It grieves us that you have chosen not to heed this letter.

Recognizing the division in the Communion, in the denomination, and in our own Diocese, the 209th Annual Council of the Diocese in 2004 recognized that "profound differences have arisen over issues addressed at the 74th General Convention" of the Episcopal Church and established a Reconciliation Commission to address them. In January 2005, the Commission declared: "[W]e cannot avoid the difficult question: ‘Can we continue to live together?’ We understand from some of those among us that the answer may ultimately be ‘No,’ and that in this case there must be provision for an amicable divorce."

In January 2006, further recognizing the division among us, you announced formation of a Special Committee and charged it with "helping congregations continuing in conflict over the decisions of the 2003 General Convention get on with their mission in as close a union as possible with the diocese." That committee included the former president of the Standing Committee (now a candidate for Bishop Coadjutor) and the chairman of the Reconciliation Commission. The Special Committee was chaired by the Chancellor of the Diocese.

In September 2006, after nine months of intense meetings, the Special Committee issued a unanimous report drafted by the Chancellor of the Diocese. The Report explained that the Special Committee was appointed "to help reconcile the divisions within our diocese," and it expressed the hope that "[n]otwithstanding the division which may cause some to ‘walk apart’, we shall always share in our own way our devotion to spreading the Good News." At the same time, however, the Report concluded that "for some members of the Diocese, separation from the Diocese and the Episcopal Church is increasingly likely." Thus, the Report offered a "Protocol for Departing Congregation[s]" that included a discernment period and vestry and congregational votes on whether to sever ties with TEC and the Diocese. You have repeatedly endorsed the Special Committee Report Protocol as "a useful way forward," including in our meeting with you on October 16, 2006. In addition, on your recommendation it was received - as presented and without amendment, after discussion and requests for changes - by votes of the Standing Committee and Executive Board of the Diocese. We understand that there were no dissenting votes. In any event, our congregation has undertaken a 40-day period of discernment to consider this issue in reliance upon these actions.

The Protocol for Departing Congregations in the Special Committee Report recognizes, among other things, that our congregations have the right to carry out a congregational vote governing the question whether to dissociate from the Episcopal Church and the Diocese. We have proceeded with complete transparency in reliance upon the Protocol and your assurances concerning that Protocol. At every step in our discernment and our voting process, we have notified the Diocese about what we are doing. The Diocese has been invited to participate in our discernment process and has in fact done so. Indeed, such diocesan participation is scheduled to continue tomorrow, when the Chancellor of the Diocese or members of the Standing Committee will be speaking to our congregations. We have acted in a manner consistent with the Protocol. Acting on the advice of counsel, we have also met every enforceable canonical and civil law obligation.

As to your suggestion that, if our vestry members continue to act in reliance upon these assurances, they may have acted in "bad faith" or engaged in "willful misconduct," we have acted in good faith, and with clean hands, in reliance upon the representations of you and the Diocese. We have also relied on public pronouncements of the then-Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold that property matters are to be resolved at the diocesan level. And, of course, our counsel have advised us that the canons are subject to Virginia law. We have previously provided your chancellor with a summary of that law, which notes that Virginia law does not recognize an express trust, let alone an implied trust, in favor of denominations such as the Episcopal Church. Given this plain rule of law, it is our position that the Diocese does not have a valid claim to ownership of our property under a theory of express or implied trust.

In any event, we must ask that you not purport to instruct our vestry and clergy on civil law. (Your letter has a section entitled "Potential Personal Liability," in which you discuss civil court decisions, and at several other points in the letter you reference purported civil law obligations.) As you have known for some time, they are represented by counsel and any discussion of these legal obligations should be directed to Winston & Strawn, 1700 K Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006; Attn: Steffen N. Johnson; and to our chancellors, A. Hugo Blankingship, Jr. (The Falls Church) and Robert M. Dilling (Truro Church). Any attempt by the Episcopal Church or the Diocese to interfere with our interests, including any further attempt to interfere with our discernment process or our congregational vote, will be met with the strongest possible response, including legal defense.

The Diocese of Virginia has always been known as a place where Christian charity and normal civility guide the relationships among its members. These attributes led to the All Saints’ Dale City settlement and the unanimous report of the Special Committee. To suggest to us now that the Standing Committee and the Executive Board may not endorse the report of the Special Committee, especially its Protocol for Departing Congregations, as well as the suggestion that the Executive Council and other authorities of the General Church, may seek to inject themselves into the affairs of this Diocese and to interfere with carefully constructed, orderly ways forward clearly places your integrity, and the integrity of the Diocese, in grave jeopardy. We reject that interference and urge you to do so as well. For you to suggest that our vestries may be subject to civil liability for conforming their conduct to the Protocol shocks the conscience. This portion of your letter constitutes a flagrant disregard of the Protocol’s "urg[ing] that the parties be guided by principles of fairness, equity and Christian charity."

We cannot imagine a worse witness, as we try to celebrate 400 years of Anglican worship in Virginia, than to have a number of our churches, including the historic churches, involved in adversarial litigation with the Diocese that could have been avoided had you and the Diocese returned to the posture of Christian charity and civility we once shared. There is one ray of hope in your letter to us, namely that we might still be able to "reach a resolution to the issues where we differ that takes into account the promises we have made, our obligations of respect and care for one another, and most of all expresses our obedience to Christ."

We regret that you saw fit to publish your letter to us. We are not making this letter public at this time. We urge you to meet with us at your earliest convenience.

In Christ,

Thomas E. Wilson James L. Oakes
Senior Warden, The Falls Church Senior Warden, Truro Church

cc: Russell V. Palmore, Esq., Chancellor, The Diocese of Virginia
Steffen N. Johnson, Esq.
A. Hugo Blankingship Jr., Esq., Chancellor, The Falls Church
Robert M. Dilling, Esq., Chancellor, Truro Church

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Wow.  I nominate this for “Conservative Anglican Communication of the Year.”  It exceeds even Kigali.

Well done.

[1] Posted by Phil on 12-08-2006 at 09:12 AM • top

Jim is a great guy.

This letter’s release speaks volumes to how things when last night with the DioVA Standing Committee.

I’d covet your prayers for all the parishes voting this next week. Thank you.

[2] Posted by Hosea6:6 on 12-08-2006 at 09:15 AM • top

My prayers are certainly ascending for these two churches. Let’s be clear about this, folks: The Diocese of Virginia is the crown jewel of the Episcopal Church - very old, very respected, the church home of so many founding fathers and other giants of American history, and with a hint of Southern mystique about it.

Truro and The Falls Church are the crown jewels of the DIocese of Virginia. The loss of these two churches - quite apart fom the roughly 25% of the diocese’s members they represent - is perhaps the biggest blow yet to 815, bigger even than Christ Church Plano as far as matters of history and prestige are concerned. 815 and DioVA will not take this lying down. These churches are going to be in a battle for their lives.

[3] Posted by Greg Griffith on 12-08-2006 at 09:28 AM • top

To the community at TFC and Truro,

During the discernment period, were there voices asking the question, “Why now? Why act before the primates’ upcoming meeting? Why not wait to see what happens before embarking on this decision?”

If there were not, why not? If there were, what were the responses? 

I have tremendous respect for the attorneys involved here, but still am left scratching my head (may be lice, may be ignorance) about this one.  I know, I’m a broken record…

[4] Posted by Widening Gyre on 12-08-2006 at 09:34 AM • top

Please pray not only for “Crown Jewels” but other lessor known parishes in our coalition, while will take more of the shots, Satan will move on any opening.

RE: These churches are going to be in a battle for their lives.

Yeah, well on another thread I referenced Samuel annointing David, next chapter is the Goliath one.  DioVA calls on lawyers and threatens Potential Personal Liability in clear violation of Scripture, I’m asking SF people to call on the Paraclete - wonder who is better at law?

Bless all for your prayers this next week.

[5] Posted by Hosea6:6 on 12-08-2006 at 09:36 AM • top

... we have acted in good faith, and with clean hands, in reliance upon the representations of you and the Diocese.

May all of us in situations like this be able to say the same thing (with respect to both official and unofficial actions)!!

[6] Posted by Rich Gabrielson on 12-08-2006 at 09:41 AM • top

Sounds to me like February will be a watershed month.  Strong intervention from the highest authorities overseas may head off an ecclesiastical civil war in the US—and by highest authorities I mean the one man, in England, who can probably prevent such a war.
Otherwise, I see it getting really ugly—and this is not good.

[7] Posted by Rick Killough on 12-08-2006 at 09:43 AM • top

The kid gloves are off,praying for both of these churches to continue to be strong.

[8] Posted by paddy on 12-08-2006 at 09:44 AM • top

WG,
TEC is a heretic church whether the primates acknowledge this to be the case and discipline or not. She no longer bears the first mark of the true church, full proclamation of the Word. Paul did not tell the Galatians in chapter 1 that they should have waited for the Jerusalem council to pass down her ruling before casting out the heretics. He admonished them for not acting sooner to defend the gospel protect the flock from false teachers. TLC and Truro have done the right thing for the spiritual welfare of the flock and have done the right thing to preserve and protect the gospel.

[9] Posted by Matt Kennedy on 12-08-2006 at 09:47 AM • top

So it has come to this. Carefully crafted threats by talented attorneys and church leaders creating a clear picture of the future of the church, that was once more inclusive and loving than any other.  VER is willing to irrevocably damage this communion so he can express his sexuality, as if anyone cared in the first place.

[10] Posted by Hank on 12-08-2006 at 09:49 AM • top

This is a GREAT letter.  Wow, I love seeing orthodox Anglicans with GUTS!

[11] Posted by Newbie Anglican on 12-08-2006 at 09:49 AM • top

Widening Gyre:
It is, simply stated, over. For these ancient repositories of Anglican Christianity, the Way is clear. Enough. No more. Finished. No more meetings, bullying tactics, olympian pronoucements from the Episcopagans of TEC. The flood gates are open, praise be to God.  May the tidal wave so unleashed cleanse the church of the horrors of heresy and apostacy. Pray for the souls who have been so poorly led by their Apostate Bishops, Pray for the Bishops that their coldblooded rejection of Christ and his church be forgiven by the One whom they have so vehemently denied to gain worldly preferement. They have sold Jesus for some red doors and trust funds.
Screwtape lives.

[12] Posted by teddy mak on 12-08-2006 at 09:58 AM • top

Widening Gyre,

I am curious about something.  What makes you think that anything significantly affecting The Falls Church’s state will occur at the February meeting?

At the end of the day, Episcopal churches will be in ECUSA

Certain Episcopal churches no longer wish to be in ECUSA.  They deem the national denomination to be repulsively corrupt and heretical.  They do not wish to be associated with such a denomination.

I remain mystified as to why people believe that another meeting will fix this very basic problem: certain parishes no longer wish to be associated with ECUSA.

I remain determined to be within ECUSA until such time as I see whether the Anglican Communion will discipline ECUSA.  I remain determined to work just as hard as I can, diocese to diocese and parish to parish, for renewal of territorial entities within ECUSA.

But my determination does not fix the very basic problem that many parishes confront.  They are repulsed by ECUSA and wish to no longer be in any way associated with ECUSA.

[13] Posted by Sarah on 12-08-2006 at 10:00 AM • top

How many more “crown jewel” parishes and dioceses have to drop out before the heretics of TEC finally realize the jig is up?

[14] Posted by Cennydd on 12-08-2006 at 10:28 AM • top

Cennydd, it would take the Cathedral churches of Grace and St. John the Divine.

[15] Posted by Bob Maxwell+ on 12-08-2006 at 10:41 AM • top

WG, I can only speak for myself.  I was one of the voices asking “why now.”  I received excellent answers from several Truro leaders and friends.  They were personal and private replies, so I am not going to publish them here.  I think both churches have published much that help answer the questions you raise.  Do know those questions were asked and heard and hearts and motives deeply searched.  But in addiiton to replies from Truro leaders, I also have more importantly asked the Lord these questions and received peace and conviction from the Lord as I have sought Him.  If I were able to be at Truro on Sunday I would be voting to disaffiliate from ECUSA, although still with much grief—yet it is a grief also mingled with great hope and excitement for what is ahead. 

By the way, I’m not sure it’s mentioned anywhere above, this letter is only being published now following a meeting with Bishop Lee.  I’m glad Truro and Falls met with +Lee first.  But sad to see the letter now as I assume it mean the meeting did not produce a satisfactory result.

[16] Posted by Karen B. on 12-08-2006 at 10:50 AM • top

Sarah, you are right, of course, although you and WG may have different thoughts as to what discipline of ECUSA would/will look like and what the consequences would be.

From my perspective, there is only one appropriate response to Bishop Lee’s bush league, hollow, threat of personal liability (which has all the markings of a collaberative effort with 815).  Anyone on the fence on this issue should get off; those that might have voted “no” should stand with their Vestry members with a resounding “yes.”  Anyone counting on the good faith of non-Network Episcopal Bishops in matters of seperation and property should understand that such a window, if it ever existed, is likely now over.

The more publicity this gets the better. Bring it on.

[17] Posted by Going Home on 12-08-2006 at 10:59 AM • top

Bishop Lee of the Episcopal Diocese of Virginia would do well to listen to the primates of the church, The Archbishop of Canterbury and, most importantly, the members of The Episcopal Church. This move by the Bishop of Virginia is in direct violation of the tenets of the church. It not only smacks of heresy…it IS heresy! The previous Presiding Bishop has avowed the consecration of an openly gay clergyman to become the Bishop of New Hampshire and expected the masses to follow his lead like lambs to the slaughter. This is wrong and, therefore, I am now an Anglican.

[18] Posted by moose92069 on 12-08-2006 at 11:06 AM • top

... and if Bp. Lee doesn’t listen to the Primates, how about listening to the Commonwealth of Virginia?

Code of Virginia § 57-9. How property rights determined on division of church or society.

A. If a division has heretofore occurred or shall hereafter occur in a church or religious society, to which any such congregation whose property is held by trustees is attached, the members of such congregation over 18 years of age may, by a vote of a majority of the whole number, determine to which branch of the church or society such congregation shall thereafter belong. Such determination shall be reported to the circuit court of the county or city, wherein the property held in trust for such congregation or the greater part thereof is; and if the determination be approved by the court, it shall be so entered in the court’s civil order book, and shall be conclusive as to the title to and control of any property held in trust for such congregation, and be respected and enforced accordingly in all of the courts of the Commonwealth.
....

I’m not positive, but this may be a left-over of the split in the Episcopal Church during the War Between the States.

[19] Posted by Justin Martyr on 12-08-2006 at 11:24 AM • top

Karen, you tease!  wink  Fine, make me do the hard work of having to go look that stuff up on the websites.  I do, in all seriousness, appreciate your response (and your work for the Kingdom).

Matt, we have “been there, done that” with the protect the flock discussion so no need to subject the others here to a rehash.  I’ll leave it with “I hope Advent finds you well and with some time off to reflect on Advent past, present, and future.” 

Sarah, to answer your question, I wouild say “Hope (the audacity of it!) and just kind of a gut feeling.”  I think (maybe just hope) that the meeting will address the adequacy (or lack thereof) of TEC’s Windsor response.  If found to be inadequate, I think the primates will begin the discipline of TEC in some form or fashion.  [here is where it connects back to TFC and Truro because Virginia law prefers the parish after a denominational split, in my humble reading of the law]  I think discipline will not be a “one time” event but a series of actions ultimately leading up to final separation (assuming TEC won’t agree) at Lambeth.  The Windsor commissioners have been very patient but the ABC will have to back them up ultimately. 

What is funny (to me at least) is that TEC’s arguments against what TFC and Truro and the CA parishes et al. have rested largely on the spiritual idea (being charitable here) of stewardship.  From Lee’s perspective, vestry own the parish as stewards (hey, great Tolkien tie in here Sarah, what do you think?) but they don’t own it anymore than Denethor owned the White Tower.  So it just plain looks bad for current stewards to play the ownership card.  But at the same time, Lee, Connecticut bishop X, Swing, et al. fail to understand that TEC operates largely as stewards, too, of the Anglican faith and tradition.  They are guilty of the same argument—trying to grab ownership of something that doesn’t belong to them.  That is what I hope the primates say clearly at the February meeting.

[20] Posted by Widening Gyre on 12-08-2006 at 11:44 AM • top

... Lee, Connecticut bishop X, Swing, et al. fail to understand that TEC operates largely as stewards, too, of the Anglican faith and tradition.  They are guilty of the same argument—trying to grab ownership of something that doesn’t belong to them.

Well said, WG!  (Of course they would say it’s not they who are claiming ownership but rather the Spirit, who is “doing a new thing” and that in time the rest of the world will be ready to receive this new revelation.)

[21] Posted by Rich Gabrielson on 12-08-2006 at 11:54 AM • top

Justin Martyr:

Yes, the Division Statute is in perp for war, I believe 1846 (I could be in error, I’m doing this from memory of the meetings - remember SC threaten to secede several times before they the actual “unpleasentness” began - VA like to be orderly about all this issues). It was not used at that time & GC was held with the South absent the came back together as one big happy family after the war. The Presby. took about a hundred years.

Thus if the votes are to disasociate and parishes file, it’s actually following the law. If Bp. Lee takes action at that time, he will technically be the one to attempt to bring it to court (thus he in violation 1 Cor. 6 violation where the other is required {very odd, but it should be stated}).

The joy this law was not tested at that time, but judges like orderly things, so this statute and “the Protocal” that’s been fallowed by both sides, even if not accepted (DioVA is sure to point that out less it becomes a defacto contract, but they did speak to both parishes last Sunday and now we’re over thirty days, sixty have passed since “Special Committee” presented it).

I’m not a lawyer, but I’m a contractor, so weary to look for these things. +Lee has stalled so much that it not in his favor. Two orderly document for guidence for a judge, one very NASTY threatening letter that claim cannon law over civil law and threatens civil action, this done suddenly after months of cordiality. In my limit experience judge like order over choas, they go with statutory law over common law, really hate nastyness of either party (& generally everyone looks to settle outside of court because it’s a pain).

Now you see why there is a sense of assurance in the parishes involved. Admittably there is some apprehension in the parishes, but courage is moving in the face of fear, not absence of it. Also I believe this battle is won in prayer and obedience to the Lord.

[22] Posted by Hosea6:6 on 12-08-2006 at 11:58 AM • top

Justin,

In the interest of full disclosure, you left off section B. of section 57-9.  Admittedly, a reading of just that section might not suggest much, but it has been read by the courts here in the Commonwealth as creating a distinction between “independent” churches and “hierarchical” churches.  Section B uses the “independent” church language although section A does not.  Case law supplies the filler.  Independent churches are given greater freedom in controlling the real estate than hierarchical churches.  That is why I wrote that Virginia law appears to allow churches such as TFC and Truro to keep the property only when there is a division at the denonimational level.  Again Hugo and his team are much more qualified to speak to these issues than me (a tax attorney) and there may be other facts unique to TFC and Truro that are at play.  But I don’t think section A of 57-9 is by itself the answer to the question.

[23] Posted by Widening Gyre on 12-08-2006 at 12:21 PM • top

Hosea6:6 & Widening Gyre:

Thank you, gentlemen.  I was aware of the points you rightly make, but it is good to explain them for the other SF bloggers.  I agree that Section A is not, by itself, the answer as there remains the argument of if a denominational split has, to the view of the court, occured.  The missing section from Title 57-9 is as follows:

...B. If a division has heretofore occurred or shall hereafter occur in a congregation whose property is held by trustees which, in its organization and government, is a church or society entirely independent of any other church or general society, a majority of the members of such congregation, entitled to vote by its constitution as existing at the time of the division, or where it has no written constitution, entitled to vote by its ordinary practice or custom, may decide the right, title, and control of all property held in trust for such congregation. Their decision shall be reported to such court, and if approved by it, shall be so entered as aforesaid, and shall be final as to such right of property so held.

[24] Posted by Justin Martyr on 12-08-2006 at 01:37 PM • top

WG wrote:

To the community at TFC and Truro, During the discernment period, were there voices asking the question, “Why now? Why act before the primates’ upcoming meeting? Why not wait to see what happens before embarking on this decision?”
If there were not, why not? If there were, what were the responses?

I am a Truro vestryman and participated in three separate discernment groups.  If the groups did not raise the questions you pose, I did it for them.  I had serious misgivings about rushing to disaffiliate, and wanted to discuss the situation with my fellow parishioners and vestry folk.  Every group in which I participated wrestled quite sincerely with these questions.  At the end of the discernment, and several vestry retreats, I was quite satisfied that action was appropriate at this time because the Protocol (now disavowed by the Diocese) set out a way forward that avoided litigation, the creation of the Anglican District in Virginia provided a safe, temporary haven under the oversight of an American bishop, the parish was in great agony by its continued association with increasingly bizarre national leadership, and there was, in any event, no guarantee that yet another Anglican meeting would produce anything like resolution.  Moreover, there is nothing preventing us from aligning with whatever orthodox Anglican structure might arise out of the Primates’ meeting in February, if we deem that to be appropriate.  All that being said, my prayer was, and remains, the following: 

O God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, our only Savior,
the Prince of Peace: Give us grace seriously to lay to heart the
great dangers we are in by our unhappy divisions; take away
all hatred and prejudice, and whatever else may hinder us
from godly union and concord; that, as there is but one Body
and one Spirit, one hope of our calling, one Lord, one Faith,
one Baptism, one God and Father of us all, so we may be all
of one heart and of one soul, united in one holy bond of truth
and peace, of faith and charity, and may with one mind and
one mouth glorify thee; through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Amen.

[25] Posted by An Anxious Anglican on 12-08-2006 at 06:15 PM • top

Amen Anxious Anglican.  Amen.  Thanks for your service above and beyond these last weeks and months.  So thankful for you and the way the vestry (and whole parish) has gone about the discernment process.  Praying much for you all.  Wishing I could be there in Ffx right now.  So thankful God is in control.

[26] Posted by Karen B. on 12-08-2006 at 07:11 PM • top

You’re the one who deserves our thanks, Karen B.!  Thanks for your trust, confidence, hard work, and prayers.

[27] Posted by An Anxious Anglican on 12-09-2006 at 02:43 PM • top

Anxious Anglican, YOU DA MAN.

[28] Posted by Going Home on 12-09-2006 at 02:47 PM • top

I finally have figured out what to post on Lent & Beyond in terms of prayer suggestions for Truro and the other VA parishes as they begin the vote tomorrow.  Here’s the link:

http://lent.classicalanglican.net/?p=2861

three prayer suggestions:
1) peace
2) A prayer for God’s light & truth to guide (from Ps 43)
3) To be able to stay thankful in the midst of this, and focused on the big picture.

[29] Posted by Karen B. on 12-09-2006 at 07:19 PM • top

The letter from Bishop Lee and his lawyers is a threat not only to Falls Church and Truro but to every lay volunteer who has or is serving on a Vestry in every Episciopal church.  Lee has gone beyond mere sword-rattling.  He has lashed out in a most vicious way.  He is proving himself to be a contemptible little man who covets power, authority, property and money and cares not one wit for the Christian faith.

[30] Posted by PapaJ on 12-09-2006 at 08:07 PM • top

I’ve now attempted to provide a list of VA parishes that MAY be voting tomorrow based on recent press reports.

http://lent.classicalanglican.net/?p=2862

[31] Posted by Karen B. on 12-09-2006 at 09:13 PM • top

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