Photo of the Day

I wonder if Ragsdale knows who Forney is and what she represents.

I know who Georgette Forney is, but who’s the guy on the left? One of the teamsters from the loading dock?

CJ,

Both know quite well who the other is.

Careful.

Are we all witnessing the final departure of TEC from the Anglican Communion????

Athanasian,

Yellow flag on the Teamsters remark. Let’s try and keep comments vaguely as civil as the photo.

It certainly isn’t Matt in disguise.

Sorry, Greg. That was just TOO easy.

Mea culpa.

I had to Google both ladies to figure out why this was an interesting photo.

Who’s Georgette Forney?

I don’t understand the signifiganec of the photo.

Sorry, I’ve heard of Ragsdale, but who is Georgette Forney?  Maybe if I know the players I’ll know why this is significant.

Fenelon, Ragsdale is the president of Episcopal Divinity School and probably the most radical pro-choice advocate in TEC.  Forney is the president of Anglicans for Life.

Georgette Fornay = Anglicans For Life

Katharine Ragsdale = Dean of EDS who thinks abortion is a blessing

The magic of Ubuntu

I know about Ragsdale, the “Abortion is a blessing” woman.

I just googled Forney.

I assume they know each other’s POV quite well. so that it’s a “Well met, my enemy” sort of thing.

That was the old reason for shaking handss-so that each person could see that the other didn’t have a concealed weapon.

Thought I felt a slight rumble from the left coast…

Ooo…ooo..ooo…Greg, can we do captions?
(Bubble over Ragsdale’s head)
“My she has a firm handshake!”

(Bubble over Forney’s head)
“Should’ve worn my hip boots instead of these wimpy sandals!”

Missed you guys!...KTF!...mrb

LOL!  Hilarious!  Thanks for sharing.  ...Hey, doesn’t the universe implode or something when you mix matter and anti-matter?

It is depressing that it seems more Anglicans know who Ragsdale is than who Fourney is…

Forney…sorry

“.... and may be best…. person…. win!”

Anglicans for Life would seem to me to be in a position similar to that of the Pyongyang Chamber of Commerce.

The vision of civility. However there are points that civility ought to give way to something higher.
I have to recall the ancient account of St. John coming into the baths at Ephesus.  When he was told that Cerinthus, a gnostic teacher, was inside, John ran from the building crying “Let us flee lest the building fall on us, for Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth is within!”  I see no reason to go out of one’s way to make such an encounter.  The Dean of EDS is no less an enemy of the truth, and the two women are certainly of different faiths.

Cindy from Texas (16),
Several of our primary intercessors - who are all over the map of the States - noted to me heavy duty spiritual warfare “pushback” later on Thursday.  Jill W also noted a FoxNews report at that same time of a sudden spike in tremors in the San Andreas faultline.  The last time that happened a 7.4 earthquake was soon to appear.
I don’t know if you ever heard of Agnes Sanford, but after retirement she used to hike the faultline on weekends praying for calm and healing for tectonic faults.
You may not have been too far off in at least a couple of different areas.  Tremors out here, whatever the source, are serious business.
On another note, buried here, I think I like what Georgette is wearing better than what Ragsdale is wearing.  Hope that doesn’t set off a tremor.

I have met Mrs Forney more than once at Sewanee some years ago (at a Pro-life event with a few of we pro-lifers in the Seminary and in the college, but that was fine. God is not a God of numbers, sometimes).
She is a lady every orthodox Christian would love to meet and needs to support her ministry. She is every inch a lady.

Now, regarding the question of why she is wearing sandals in this photo,  the first thing that came to my mind was the BCP Lectionary for tomorrow (Gospel: Mark 6:7-13)

So, my Caption for this Photo: Mark 6:11 (something about “shake off the dust from under your sandals as a testimony against them (those who refuse to hear your Gospel)”. 

Fr. Kingsley Jon-Ubabuco
Arlington, TX

Meant to say:
...Mrs. Foreny was at two events organized by a few of us who were Sewanee pro-lifers in the Seminary and the college. She was always well-dressed.  ......

FWIW.

Fr. Kingsley+

It makes me sad to think some of you guys didn’t recognize Georgette by her face or name.  :( By the way, Anglicans for Life is not “her” organization.  She is currently the president but they have a board of directors, chapters dotted around the country (and soon, hopefully around the globe), volunteer life coordinators, financial contributors, and intercessors.  AFL (formerly NOEL) has strong ties with Priests for Life and the “Silent No More” campaign.  They always have a presence in Washington, D.C. on January 22 and are doing various good works behind the scenes, but we can do so much more if you get involved in some way.  Check out their website for details.

I wouldn’t say Ragsdale is pro-choice.  She believes doctors should be disciplined if they refuse to do abortions.

Jill C. I am as pro-life as anyone here but I did not recognize either woman in the picture nor was I familiar with Forney. Sometimes the devil and his agents get more press than the angels.

As I conjectured on another thread, maybe the tremors signal the earth getting ready to open up and swallow the revisionists alive?  There is Biblical precedent, you know!

Fr. Rob [24] my mom, who had a very powerful healing ministry, was a friend of Agnes Sanford’s.  Agnes’ writing was part of my spiritual formation when I was a young teen.  I love to see her name pop up from time to time.  What would she think of this mess our church is in?

Boffin, Ragsdale has stated publicly, and on many occasions that she considers abortion to be a blessing. In fact, she most definitely is pro-abortion.

Mari, if you read carefully, I was saying that she thinks abortion should be mandatory, not a choice.

Boffin, glad we agree.

I’ve heard of Agnes Sanford. I am an affiliate member of “Th Order of St Luke the Physician” which emphasizes the healing ministry in the church. Her writings are wonderful.

Cindy,
Perhaps I knew of your mom?  Send me a private email through “Messages” so we’re not off topic here in that regard.

However, Agnes Sanford’s opinion is well on topic.  Agnes, by all accounts, was quite cognizant of the trends of the Church, mostly by confronting those trends in the lives of those who presented themselves to her for prayer, individually, privately, and in conferences (usually OSL sponsored).  Her response, was to pray for their healing, physically, emothinally, mentally.  Her strategy within the Church would be defined by her response of healing prayer.  While she was alive, it was working.  While Rosalind Rinker was capable of public ministry, her response was waiting for the presence of Jesus, and then praying (both listening and speaking) with expectation.  Strategy informed personal ministry by response : teach people how to pray like that so they can too.  It’s not that they failed, and that’s why we’re here now.  They and those like them (they’re not all dead , mind you) by the working of the Holy Spirit, changed tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of lives.  It’s simply “ashes to ashes and dust to dust” for all of us. And then others, perhaps such as you, and I know me, pick up the mantel and ask for a double portion of the anointing.

Where is the photo(s) of the special order for the House(s) of spirit-gifted members of , say, the Order of St. Luke, showing the ministry of the laying on of hands with anointing for healing?  Don’t you know somebody never had that thought cross their mind.  And don’t you know that somebody would presume it was a conservative political trap?  Yet dancers are ok.
But can’t you see in your mind’s eye, standing there as a side “station” next to those administering daily commuion, a photo of your mom and Agnes laying on hands and praying effectively for healing, especiallly as God might want to bring it?!
 
Rob
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Earthquake Center USGS

Hope I got those tags right.  My very favorite earthquake page.  It is stunning how many there are (and every little box on those maps is less than a week old).

KTF!...mrb

Mari - I think boffin was being ironic when he said that Ragsdale is not pro-choice. He means that she’s in favor of forcing a doctor to do abortions, whether or not his concscience allows him to. He didn’t say she’s not pro-abortion - he said she’s not pro-choice.

I am also surprised that more pro-life Anglicans don’t know Georgette.