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School District Gags 14-year-olds After ‘Gay’ Indoctrination

Thursday, March 15, 2007 • 11:04 am


Words fail me.

In what CWA called a “shocking and brazen act of government abuse of parental rights,” the school’s officials required the 14-year-olds to attend a “Gay Straight Alliance Network” panel discussion led by “gay” and “lesbian” upperclassmen during a “freshman advisory” class which “secretively featured inappropriate discussions of a sexual nature in promotion of high-risk homosexual behaviors.”

Wait - it gets better

The situation, according to district Supt. George Fornero, was partly “a mistake.”

He told CWA, the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization, that requiring children to sign the confidentiality agreement wasn’t right and the district would be honest with parents in the future about such seminars. But CWA noted that even after the district was caught, parents still were being told they were not welcome to be at the “freshman advisory” and they were not allowed to have access to materials used in compiling the activist curriculum.

And just when you think you can’t take anymore… here’s what the judge ruled in a similar case in Massachusetts

The conclusion from U.S. District Judge Mark L. Wolf found that it is reasonable, indeed there is an obligation, for public schools to teach young children to accept and endorse homosexuality.

Wolf essentially adopted the reasoning in a brief submitted by a number of homosexual-advocacy groups, who said “the rights of religious freedom and parental control over the upbringing of children … would undermine teaching and learning…”


Even George Orwell couldn’t have dreamed this up.

Read it all.


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No court should uphold that confidentiality agreement as legal.  No minor can legally enter into a contract without a parent or legal guardian signing it, which would defeat the purpose of keeping the information from their parents.

[1] Posted by sanctus.liberalis on 03-15-2007 at 10:38 AM • top

I believe the time is coming when faithful Christians will be put in jail over this.  When that happens, the rending of garments over Nigeria’s muzzling of free speech rights for gays will curiously stop, and we will find that, as far as the First Amendment goes, some people are more equal than others.

I wonder if we are prepared to endure this persecution?

[2] Posted by Phil on 03-15-2007 at 10:40 AM • top

Pretty egregious stuff, but it appears to be part of the plan.

Take this example and marry it to the recent, over-the-top criticism of Gen. George Pace (n.b., for openly stating his personal belief in what TEC recently taught and what most churches still teach re: homosexual behavior.)

Now add the context of the ummah objective of re-establishing the caliphate within 25 years.

If current worldly trends hold (e.g., such institutional brainwashing efforts), the likes of Gen. Pace will no longer be around to defend us against the re-establishment of the caliphate.  And of course, these younger, ignorant generations will suffer.

[3] Posted by tired on 03-15-2007 at 10:46 AM • top

There are already plenty of examples of this for you to observe next time you travel to England, Phil.  I doubt that even the box at Hyde Park Corner is any longer a sanctuary against the abuse of free speech.

[4] Posted by Bill C on 03-15-2007 at 10:54 AM • top

This is why my children will be educated at home.

[5] Posted by fatherlee on 03-15-2007 at 10:54 AM • top

Having kids sign “confidentiality agreements” is manipulative.  “Keeping secrets” is one of the exploitive tactics used by child molestors.

[6] Posted by Piedmont on 03-15-2007 at 10:56 AM • top

mere words fail me…..............

the snarkster

[7] Posted by the snarkster on 03-15-2007 at 10:58 AM • top

Gotta love being in Illinois….

Just this week we had an article about a Jr. High teacher passing sexually explicit material to students in an South suburban 8th grade health class.  (Chicago Tribune/Wolcott School)


This article about a high school could not have come at a better time.  We have homeschooled our daughters for the past 4 years/2 years respectively.  Our older daughter faces high school next year.  While she would like to continue at home, we are prayerfully considering what is best for her.  While this is not in my town, I have heard of such groups at my high school as well.  Such articles just may make decisions like the one we are now facing easier to make.

Susan

[8] Posted by Summersnow on 03-15-2007 at 11:16 AM • top

during a “ freshman advisory” class

One of the ploys of the homosexual lobby is to categorize their propaganda with terms that appear to be harmless.  The “anti-bullying discussions” are another example.

[9] Posted by Piedmont on 03-15-2007 at 11:21 AM • top

How many members of TEC are on the school board, and is Judge Wolf an Episcopalian?

[10] Posted by midwestnorwegian on 03-15-2007 at 11:22 AM • top

My kids are smart enough, hopefully, to understand that when adults tell them not to tell your parents something that they should make a bee line right for us and tell us about it.

How absolutely underhanded.  It’s saying to the kids, “We know this is wrong and your parents wouldn’t approve, but I’m going to tell you anyway.”

[11] Posted by Paul B on 03-15-2007 at 11:29 AM • top

No court should uphold that confidentiality agreement as legal.  No minor can legally enter into a contract without a parent or legal guardian signing it, which would defeat the purpose of keeping the information from their parents.

Now you would think that this might be the case, but the courts have already made a rather large exception in the law by allowing minors to concent to certian medical proceedures without a parent or guardian’s signature.

[12] Posted by R S Bunker on 03-15-2007 at 11:36 AM • top
[13] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 03-15-2007 at 11:41 AM • top

I suppose it all depends where you happen to live.
Such curriculum—although not as sexually graphic—is already taught to elementary grades in Minneapolis Public Schools.  It is considered voluntary, and students whose parents object as well as teachers, may absent themselves.  The curriculum tends to be taught by “progressive” parents, and or teachers.

[14] Posted by dl on 03-15-2007 at 11:50 AM • top

email contacts for the School Board members are here…
http://culturecampaign.blogspot.com/search/label/deerfield

[15] Posted by Timothy Fountain on 03-15-2007 at 11:54 AM • top

Now you would think that this might be the case, but the courts have already made a rather large exception in the law by allowing minors to concent to certian medical proceedures without a parent or guardian’s signature.

Really?  That’s somewhat disturbing.  What’s next?  Children getting cosmetic surgery without their parents knowing about it?  I am getting off topic here.

[16] Posted by sanctus.liberalis on 03-15-2007 at 12:10 PM • top

Not really sanctus.liberalis, the courts are moving more and more, being pushed by the liberal public school system, toward taking away all parental rites. This is just one of many occurences.

[17] Posted by Marlin on 03-15-2007 at 12:15 PM • top

Exhibit A:
Confidentiality agreement developed for the school district by their esteemed counsel, specifically the attorneys of Howie, Cheatham & Howe, LLC.  wink

I, Student’s Name, do hereby promise, in exchange for absolutely no good and valuable consideration, to not tell my parents* about the freshman advisory or anything else regarding any and all information disclosed in or about this auditorium including talks, hand-outs, slide-shows and any and all other forms of communication regardless of method of conveyance.  It is agreed that shampoo for the brain-washing session will be provided free of charge by the school district.  However, students may, at their own expense, elect to bring their own shampoo provided such commodity is in the unopened original container of which the manufacturer has clearly notated that no live animals were used in the development, testing or production of said concoction. 

*Check Applicable Designation
1.  Mother and Father
2.  Mother and her husband
3.  Father and trophy wife
4.  Birth-mom and other mom
5.  Genetic-dad and other dad
6.  Mom and her current live-in boyfriend
7.  Paw and his biker babe
8.  Farm couple raising me after my rocket from Krypton crashed in their corn field

[18] Posted by Piedmont on 03-15-2007 at 12:47 PM • top

Phil and tired,
I appreciate that I am not the only one who sees the larger implications behind the culture wars.  Yes, I have had this gut feeling for quite a few years that Christians (Bible-believing and speaking Christians) will be enduring very real persecution over the issue of “gay rights and hate speech”.  Maybe it’s already here in the ludicrious criticism of Gen Pace.

My undergraduate degree is in Religious Studies, which was a combination of comparative religions and the philosophy, psychology and phenomenology of the human religious experience.  So I have studied Islam and even have two copies of the Koran (or Quran if you prefer).  The re-establishment of the caliphate is very real and not just some neo-con boguy tale.  It is already happening in the EU as Muslims seem to be exempted from the “hate speech” laws that are harassing Christians. 

The homosexualists have bought into the liberal propoganda that there is no need for any war on terrorism, i.e. the guerilla arm of the re-establishment of the caliphate.  And because of that, they fail to realize that it’s us horrible, hateful conservative, like Gen Pace, that stand between them and shi’ra law.  Trust me, all of you GLBT persons, shi’ra law will make the days of being in the closet look like sheer heaven.   

Mark my words, if something drastic isn’t done to reverse the secularism (and its attendants) that has over-run Europe, it will be run by the Muslims within the next 10-15 years, and run under Sh’ira law.  It may happen here in the U.S. as soon as the next 25 years, definitely no more than 50 years.

[19] Posted by Gayle on 03-15-2007 at 12:51 PM • top

All I can say is: I have never sued anyone in my life and I am most definitely not a litigous kind of person. But if I had a child at that sorry excuse for a school, I would spend every last nickel I had suing that High School and School Board. This is truly disgusting.

the snarkster

[20] Posted by the snarkster on 03-15-2007 at 12:55 PM • top

More bad news on the education front: 68% of all high school seniors are only sodomizing at an 8th grade level…

(Shamelessly stolen from a Jay Leno joke circa 1994)

But isn’t this good news, folks?  I mean, if schools are taking time away from things like trig, civics, English Lit and physics to educate them on the joys of rubbing one’s self against those of the same sex, doesn’t that signify complete pedagogical success in the former area?

[21] Posted by Jeffersonian on 03-15-2007 at 01:05 PM • top

Snarkster—Save your money and instead spend it on school board races to elect people who will resist this kind of curriculum.
In fairness, Judge Wolf (who is a Reagan appointee, by the way) was only hewing to a legal standard, which has been upheld by nearly every federal circuit court, that parents have virtually no First Amendment right to restrict what public schools teach their kids.  No right based on free speech, no right based on the freedom of religious expression.  (By the way, the standard in the First Circuit, which includes Massachusetts, was established by a case captioned Brown v. Hot, Sexy and Safer Productions, 68 F.3d 525 (1st Cir. 1995).  Draw your own conclusions from that.)  Judge Wolf was simply reviewing the constitutionality of the curriculum, not imposing it as the WND article suggests, and like any good conservative jurist he was only giving the people what they ask for, so to speak.

[22] Posted by Steven in Falls Church on 03-15-2007 at 01:25 PM • top

This recently arrived via the internet. It seems applicable here.

How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. From courage to liberty;

4. From liberty to abundance;

5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;

7. From apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage “


Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million; Bush: 143 million;

Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000

States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2;  Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore’s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare…”

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
“complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of
democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation’s population already
having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

If the Senate grants Amnesty and citizenship to 20 million
criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then goodbye USA
in less than 5 years.

[23] Posted by Forgiven on 03-15-2007 at 01:28 PM • top

Timothy Fountain - It is the same judge.  I clarified the post.  Sorry for the confusion.

[24] Posted by Jackie on 03-15-2007 at 01:29 PM • top

I hope my kids would have the good sense to sign the form “Bravo Sierra.”

[25] Posted by Cousin Vinnie on 03-15-2007 at 01:49 PM • top

If I had school age kids, the way public education has been headed for the last couple of decades, I would do every thing in my power, any sacrifice I could make, to put them in private Christian schools.

[26] Posted by Marlin on 03-15-2007 at 01:55 PM • top

If I had school age kids, the way public education has been headed for the last couple of decades, I would do every thing in my power, any sacrifice I could make, to put them in private Christian schools.

Marlin, I hear your sentiment, but I don’t agree that’s always the answer.  Private and/or Christian do not always provide a better academic education.  And, unless the Christian school has a litmus test for teachers and staff that conforms exactly to your values, your kids are going to hear differences of opinion on Christian topics.  It’s much easier to explain to your kids that they heard something strange because it’s the public school than it is to explain why, at their Christian school, that they hear things that mommy and daddy teach them is wrong.

Sometimes private school or home schooling is the way to go, but I send my kids to public school for the education and to be Christians in the world.

[27] Posted by Paul B on 03-15-2007 at 02:56 PM • top

Homeschooling rocks!  We “tested” it over the summer after my daughters 1st grade.  (Actually, it was my wife—aka The Teacher who was being tested).  Worked out fabulously.

For anyone even thinking of considering it, I heartily reccomend that you give it a trial run during the summertime.  2 hours a day maybe, 4 days a week.  See what comes of it.

Obviously it’s not for everyone, but you’ll never know unless you try.

[28] Posted by Marty the Baptist on 03-15-2007 at 04:01 PM • top

Been There,

Olson may believe that

the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition

but (a) “between” requires two objects, whereas phase (“complacency and apathy”) is a single phase, and (b) I would strongly suggest that Olson is a rank optimist.

[29] Posted by H. Potter (aka Martial Artist) on 03-15-2007 at 04:48 PM • top

But CWA noted that even after the district was caught, parents still were being told they were not welcome to be at the “freshman advisory” and they were not allowed to have access to materials used in compiling the activist curriculum.

How fast can you say “class action suit”?  The school approved an activity that could easily be seen as harming a child and then the school district lied about it and covered up by denying the parents access to the materials.  Even one of those kids should be able to win that one. 

We too are homeschoolers, but if I were told I couldn’t come to anything I wanted to at my child’s school, my attorney would have someone for lunch.

[30] Posted by Edwin on 03-15-2007 at 05:56 PM • top

I am a public school social worker and am saddened whenever I read an article such as this.  Despite what we read and hear about these extreme examples, I honestly believe that most teachers/faculty genuinely are committed, caring, people.  I have worked with many believers in several different school districts.  HOWEVER, there are always exceptions and individuals who seem to be on a mission to promote their personal agenda. 

Schools can be a mission field for Christians.  There are many opportunities to share Christ’s love, to pray, and yes to even witness.  Schools need Christians on staff, on school boards, AND in administration to stand up for the rights of parents and for morality.

[31] Posted by caroln on 03-15-2007 at 06:53 PM • top

Interesting comments on the ideas of a lawsuit.  Having lived in this town in my college days, and having taught in an elementary school there, I can tell you without a doubt that this neighborhood has deep pockets—lots of CEO’s , Lawyers, Traders, etc.  It also has a conservative evangelical university and a conservative evangelical seminary as well.  But unless the parents who object to this sort of thing get over their fears of reprisal and speak out, this type of thing will happen more and more.

Susan

[32] Posted by Summersnow on 03-15-2007 at 07:04 PM • top

“students sign the “confidentiality agreement” through which they promised not to tell anyone – including their own parents”
This is one step away from the NAZI practice of officials teaching and requiring children to inform on their parents.

[33] Posted by Betty See on 03-15-2007 at 09:22 PM • top

I saw something along this line twelve years ago when my daughter attended a Student Government conference at the University of Georgia.  She and another girl went to a seminar called “We All Need Allies.”  I wrote an outraged letter to the President of UGA pointing out that sex of ANY kind with a fourteen-year-old is criminal.  He sent back a letter saying they’d be more careful about age-appropriate material.  Sure.

If this material was in any way explicit, perhaps laws pertaining to the exposure of minors to pornography could be invoked.

Further, some people believe SSA is innate, and some believe it is affected by events in life.  This could be viewed as an effort at the “recruitment” which SSA activists deny ever happens.  At the very least, it could have the effect of pushing young people who are unsure about these matters over the edge at an age when they are very vulnerable to manipulation.

[34] Posted by Katherine on 03-15-2007 at 09:47 PM • top

I went to seminary in that city.  Very interesting.  There are large, influential churches all over that town and school district (even a mid-sized AMiA congregation that has used facilities in Deerfield).

I don’t see how the district stands its ground for long, even though the population would definitely be more middle of the road than conservative.  Lots and lots of upper-level management in that district that won’t be pleased with losing control of their children’s education.

[35] Posted by Rom 1:16 on 03-15-2007 at 10:00 PM • top

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