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Two Letters to the CO Springs Gazette: former Grace Vestrymembers write current Sr. Warden Responds

Saturday, April 14, 2007 • 9:07 am


Below you will find two letters to the Colorado Springs Gazette.

The first is signed by 19 former vestrymembers of Grace Church and current members of the non-CANA breakaway congregation

The second is a response to that letter by the current senior warden of Grace Church, Jon Wroblewski.



Pastor must answer important questions

Question: What is thy duty toward thy neighbor? Answer: My duty toward my Neighbor is . . . to do to all men as I would they should do unto me: . . . To be true and just in all my dealings: . . . To keep my hands from picking and stealing, and my tongue from evil speaking, lying, and slandering: . . . Not to desire other men’s goods; But to learn and labor truly to get my own living.

— The Book of Common Prayer (1928).

We are 19 former vestry members from Grace and St. Stephens Episcopal Church. Between us, we served almost every year when Father Don Armstrong was rector. Though we represent a variety of views on the moral issues facing our church, those issues are not in question here.

At issue is the commandment: Thou shalt not steal. Armstrong is exploiting theological divisions within the Episcopal Church to avoid a canonical investigation about his alleged financial wrongdoing. He has defied church and civil law by occupying and taking property from the church he and his allies left. We cannot keep silent.

Armstrong dismisses inquiries into his financial activities. He cries “religious persecution.” Consider the facts and ask: Is Armstrong trustworthy? Is he guilty of financial wrongdoing? Do he and his followers have a lawful basis for taking church property?

Is he trustworthy? Consider three examples: Armstrong claims the secessionist vestry members voted on March 26 to leave the Episcopal Church. They had already published the results of that “vote” on March 25.

In his March 30 letter, he claims he was “prevented by inhibition from responding to allegations.” The inhibition never prevented his private response to diocesan representatives. Diocesan representatives asked for his explanations or evidence eight times. He refused every time. Based on our experience, we are not surprised that he refuses to speak in settings he cannot control, nor to answer inquiries by informed questioners. Armstrong wrote on March 30, “the bishop’s own audit found no money missing” even though he is accused of “theft of $392,409.93.”

Is he guilty of financial wrongdoing? The presentment alleges that Armstrong took the nearly $400,000 for his personal expenses and for his son and daughter’s education, rent, cars, cell phones and computers. It alleges that he personally directed incorrect accounting entries for many of these checks. According to the presentment, he himself initialed many incorrect accounting entries. Such entries made it unlikely that those reviewing parish financial statements would identify payments benefiting Armstrong. The presentment alleges these sums and an additional $150,000 were never reported to the IRS. It also alleges that two checks totaling $3,433 received by Armstrong every month since 2001, suddenly began to be treated as taxable salary the month after the diocesan audit began. If so, this new practice is a tacit admission of previous wrongdoing.

In his March 30 letter, Armstrong admits the parish paid unlawful pay advances and loans and that questions have arisen regarding his use of funds set aside for the poor. Will he admit that he was the recipient? Has he repaid these sums?

In the same letter, Armstrong argues the “scholarships” for his children represent “a common practice in the church,” saying that staff financial arrangements were “handled by the wardens.” Four persons served as senior or junior warden from 2001 through 2007: Marge Goss, Craig Whitney, Jon Wroblewski and John Newsome. (Newsome resigned shortly after the diocesan attorney showed the vestry documents regarding Armstrong’s alleged misappropriations, and two days before the secession “vote”). We served as vestry members. We never gave the wardens blanket authority to negotiate “financial arrangements” for Armstrong. We know of no provision in the parish governing documents or canon law giving wardens this authority. If such payments were a lawful “common practice,” why not report them to the IRS?

Is there a lawful basis for taking the church property? Grace Church and St. Stephen’s has been a parish of the Episcopal church for more than 130 years. Those who serve as parish leaders have no authority to raid this parish or place it under a foreign leader. Dissenters can stay and work for reform. They can leave and join another church. But they cannot change church law or take church property as they leave.

Armstrong attempts to blind the Episcopal faithful to his own wrongdoing by accusing Bishop Robert O’Neill of “fantasy” and “obsession.” We reject this rhetoric. We reject it as strongly as we reaffirm our faith in our lord, Jesus Christ. We reject it as strongly as we reaffirm our affection for Grace and St. Stephen’s.

This letter is signed by Edward Brown, Garry Butcher, Bob Carlile, Timothy Fuller, Larry Gaddis, John Hermes, John E. Hill, Jr., Marianna McJimsey, Robert McJimsey, Elizabeth Lilly, Terry Lilly, Carol Nuss, George “Pat” Patterson, Beth Phillips, Jim Phillips, John Scrivner, Frear Simons, John





Response from Grace and St. Stephen's senior warden:

Saturday, April 14 2007

Dear Editor of The Gazette,

As senior warden of the vestry of Grace Church and St. Stephen’s I cannot let yesterday’s editorial by 19 current and former members of the Parish go unanswered. In their letter they have publicly questioned the trustworthiness of our priest and, by implication, the integrity of the duly elected members of the vestry, who serve as the governing fiduciary body of the Parish.

Let me first of all invite them and any and all persons of good will who are concerned about the financial matters of Grace Church and St. Stephen’s to a public forum this morning at 9:00 in the nave of the church at 631 N. Tejon Street. At this meeting the vestry will preside over Fr. Donald Armstrong’s formal response to the Episcopal Diocese of Colorado’s presentment. As the principal officer of the Colorado corporation of Grace Church and St. Stephen’s, I can assure all that the vestry eagerly awaits this forum for the truth to lay bare the reality behind all accusations, allegations, and charges for the matters in question.

As to the substantial points made in the letter of the 19 persons:

1. The vestry voted to leave the Episcopal Church on Monday morning, March 26, 2007 in a meeting at 8:00 am. Ironically, this can be confirmed by the Rev. Dr. Michael O’Donnell, the priest in charge of the dissenting congregation now meeting at Shove Chapel. Fr. O’Donnell sat in supportive attendance of our meeting and immediately thereafter celebrated our decision to leave the Episcopal Church with us over coffee and donuts.

2. The Diocese of Colorado has recently released the presentment against Fr. Armstrong after a year of formulating these allegations. During the course of the year, the Bishop has prevented Fr. Armstrong from making any public response. Fr. Armstrong has never been accorded the opportunity to respond to allegations before any ecclesiastical review committee or court. The sad reality is that for any justice to prevail in the face of such a contorted ecclesiastical system, Fr. Armstrong has had to leave the Episcopal Church of his ancestors in order to be free to defend himself against the allegations in question. This defense formally begins today in a public forum that will be presided over by the vestry with a congregation assembled to pass their own private judgment on the matter.

3. Regarding the question of scholarships, it was in fact, John Simmons, one of the letter’s 19 signatories and Sr. Warden at the time, who approved the scholarships – based in part on the fact that he had similar arrangements at Colorado College. His wife, Frear, was retained by the parish (at her husband’s suggestion) as an attorney to ensure that the vestry’s actions were legal and that the Parish was in compliance with the specified stipulations of the related trusts.

4. The church has not been “taken” or “raided” by the vestry, nor has anyone been forced to leave the parish. The vestry’s action to leave the Episcopal Church on March 26 was a pre-emptive defensive measure to protect the parish from an expected hostile take-over by the Diocese of Colorado. Our current provisional membership status in the Convocation of Anglicans in North America (CANA) allows the congregation to make a real choice in self-determination. In the Parish plebiscite scheduled for Sunday, May 20th the congregation will ratify or veto the vestry’s decision to leave the Episcopal Church. In the meantime, all members in good standing have been invited to fully participate in a 40 day period of discernment and to cast their vote on May 20th. At this time Grace Church and St. Stephen’s will either formally separate from the Episcopal Church or remain in it. Frankly, the Bishop’s effort to establish an alternative dissenting church is premature, divisive, schismatic, and unhelpful to the process we have set up for full participation of our body in this crucial decision making process about the future of the Parish.

5. We disagree with opinion of the 19 and believe that Grace Church and St. Stephen’s as a Colorado non-profit corporation has the lawful right of selfdetermination. As is publicly known, the Parish has recently entered El Paso County District Court to protect its rights to self-determination and property, both real and personal.

6. Regarding the letter’s reference to a “foreign leader,” I pray that I am not hearing anti-catholic or even racist connotations in its tone. If this is a reference to the Most Reverend Peter Akinola, Primate of the Church of Nigeria, it deeply saddens me. His missionary diocese in America has been recognized as legitimate by the Primates of the worldwide Anglican Communion. Furthermore, a holy man of God who was nominated to be World Magazine’s “Daniel of the Year” (2006) is undeserving of such contempt.

7. In the letter of the 19’s reaffirmation of their Christian faith and affection for Grace Church and St. Stephen’s, I cordially invite them to return to the parish and worship, pray, and study with us, to be reconciled to their priest of twenty-years, and to fully participate in the 40 days of discernment process concerning the future life of the Parish.

Respectfully,

Jon Wroblewski, Sr. Warden

Grace Church and St. Stephen’s




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Comments:

I am so glad Grace Church and its rector, Fr. Don Armstrong, are now, for the first time, able to defend themselves against the slanderous and illicit attacks of the Stalking Bishop of Colorado (as well as his minions who post on this blog with the purpose of tarnishing the reputations of so many people at Grace Church). 

As details such as the retention of an attorney, Frear Simmons, to ensure compliance with the scholarship trust requirements, emerge, the public will be able to more fully realize just how outrageously the church and its rector have been treated.  I wonder if the fact that Ms. Simmons’ husband, John Simmons, is publicly disparaging leaders of Grace Church for actions his wife was legally responsible for might threaten her ability to practice law if charges of malpractice are brought against her.

[1] Posted by Seen-Too-Much on 04-14-2007 at 09:49 AM • top

It is unthinkable to me that an attorney would not recognize that the scholarships represented taxable income to Armstrong+  The letter states that the wife of the senior warden was so responsible.  She was under “retainer” for this.  I guess that it will be asked how long she was under such retainer, was she, in fact, compensated etc.  On the question of the date that the vestry made its decision:  David Virtue had the following: “Posted by David Virtue on 2007/3/25 17:50:00 (22604 reads)
COLORADO: GRACE CHURCH AND ST. STEPHEN’S PARISH LEAVES DENOMINATION” 

This is going to end up in court and all elements will be embarrassed and injured.  The ACI, quite possible totally guileless, will be brought into it.  There is a $170,000 dollar loan from Grace to the Institute and, based on what its president Chris Seitz said, there is no way that that kind of money was near the budget of this organization “6 guys with a website.”  Armstrong+ says it will be paid back at 10K/annum.  It seems so very unfair to Seitz and Radner.  They will be sucked into what I believe will be an on-going accountants slug-fest in the courts and Radner+‘s reputation among moderates in the US will be hurt.  The IRD thing didn’t help.  It is seen as THE organization working to destroy the mainline in the US, but the decision to join its board was at least his decision.  The next issue in the saga should be Armstrong+‘s defense to his church…and then the 19vestry’s response and so on and so on, trial by Colorado press,  until a jury becomes the true finder of fact.

[2] Posted by EmilyH on 04-14-2007 at 10:46 AM • top

Drop the conspiracy theory on the time of the VOL story.  The time posted is obviously incorrect.  The story was in fact posted sometime on 3/26, not 3/25 as appears on VOL.  Look at the comments, the first comment on the story appears 3/26 at 14:55 (that time is most likely incorrect as well).  How is it possible that this story went uncommented on for 24 hours?  Why did the blog world ignore the story for 24 hours as well?  Stand Firm posted a link to the VOL story as breaking news at 12:01 on 3/26 with the first comment appearing, amazingly, at 11:15- showing that these times on blogs aren’t always accurate.  Why did Stand Firm not notice this story for nearly 24 hours?  T19 posted the story at 13:20 with the first comment at 13:24.  It is obvious that the story was not posted on 3/25 but in fact on 3/26.  Frankly, given the strange discrepancies one sees on blogs regarding times of posts and comments on posts I would hardly put any credence to such times.

[3] Posted by Nevin on 04-14-2007 at 11:25 AM • top

“Based on our experience, we are not surprised that he refuses to speak in settings he cannot control, nor to answer inquiries by informed questioners.” That personal characterization betrays animus on the part of whomever drafted this letter, and diminishes the credibility of the other statements in the letter.

The letter states that the former Vestry members disagree about the moral issues facing the church, and that such views are not at issue here.  The very discription of the “issues facing the church” as “moral” subtly advances the revisionist cause.  The real issue is, of course, the authority of Scripture and the identity of Jesus Christ. The “moral issues” flow out of that. Also, to suggest that these “views” are not at issue in this controversy is disingenous. Of course they are.  For those reasserting Vestry members, where will you go now?  Are you going to worship in the Diocese of Colorodo in this dissenting congregation, squared up with its Bishop, in lock step with TEC?  If not, shouldnt you be helping parishioners establish and maintain an Anglican parish outside of TEC?

Those former Vestry members who are orthodox Christians should get with the current Vestry members and reach agreement that they will not be divided by this. Swallow your pride, apologize for the personal attacks, and recognize that the common cause of building and maintaining a faithful Anglican parish is more important than any mistakes that may have been made by an individual Priest.

I am confused about the reference to a Frear Simons. In one bio on the web, this attorney is listed as “former Assistant to the Rector” at Grace. http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=32591862.  Yet in the parish’s reply it says she was retained to advise the parish regarding the scholarship funds.  The church reply also suggests it was the Warden, her husband, who approved the scholarship recipients—children of the Rector.  I look forward to reading any legal analysis supporting that structure in maintaining the tax qualification of the scholarships. 

I will say this again, if you take anything from this it should be to review any similar scholarship or non-reported compensation arrangements at your church. There is a lot of misinformation out there regarding appropriate tax treatment, and Vestry members who are not tax attorneys or CPAs should get written independent advice before stepping in these waters.

[4] Posted by Going Home on 04-14-2007 at 12:06 PM • top

Timothy - I believe the Presentment states the scholarship committee was to be comprised of the rector, the senior warden and the Bowton’s (s.p.?) attorney (Karl Ross). There seems to be a claim by Rev. Armstrong that Ross assigned his obligation to the Church treasurer. The presentment denies such an assignment ever took place and therefore scholarships were granted outside of the parameters of the trust both in to whom they were given and how they were decided.

[5] Posted by C.B. on 04-14-2007 at 12:18 PM • top

I have no dog in this fight; none of the participants is known to me at all.  But I would suggest that we refrain from the “stalking bishop” talk until more is known.  It unfortunately speaks to our overwhelming mistrust of liberal bishops and their tactics (e.g. Amdrew Smith).  But it is also possible for clergy, especially of the “cardinal rector” variety, to begin to assume that they are above the law.  I asked an acquaintance of mine from the dicoese for his take on the situation and his response was that people are “distancing themselves from Armstrong+.”  He also stated that he considers Bp. O’Neill to be very fair and working hard to treat all sides in the general “church wars” impartially.  We really need to wait before rushing to judgement.

[6] Posted by Ann Castro on 04-14-2007 at 12:43 PM • top

RE: “They will be sucked into what I believe will be an on-going accountants slug-fest in the courts and Radner+’s reputation among moderates in the US will be hurt.”

Nope.  Radner’s reputation will only continue to be bad amongst progressive activists like EmilyH—because he’s orthodox.  But most “moderates”—should they ever become interested in all the folderol in the Episcopal church—will be helpfully educated by the most traveled blogs and orthodox ECUSA parishioners.  I’m quite confident in which way most moderates will go, should their heads ever rise from the sand!  ; > )

RE: “The IRD thing didn’t help.  It is seen as THE organization working to destroy the mainline in the US, but the decision to join its board was at least his decision.”

Actually the IRD thing helps a lot—amongst orthodox Episcopalians.  Only amongst progressive activists like EmilyH is it considered a bad thing—but that’s not at all surprising, of course.  The IRD is an excellent organization and I’m thrilled that someone of Ephraim Radner’s caliber is on the board.  That only raises my estimation of what is already a fine organization.

It’s fun to see all of the fantasizing from folks like EmilyH . . . and I recognize that sometimes blog comments are an opportunity for people of all theological stripes to indulge in a lot of “hoping, and wishing, and dreaming” . . .

For information about how to give to the IRD, travel to this link:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2605/

A great place to redirect your money away from the national Episcopal church.

[7] Posted by Sarah on 04-14-2007 at 01:54 PM • top

I’m not so certain that Fr. Radner’s association with IRD is the least bit helpful to establishing his ability to communicate successfully with moderate Episcopalians, and tying anyone to Fr. Armstrong’s financial chicanery is certainly a great, big negative. However one views the IRD, it is an openly revolutionary political organization, and moderates don’t love revolution, no matter how incisive Sarah’s rhetorical prose becomes. The issue of Grace Church and Fr. Armstrong’s presentment should be an entirely different issue: fleeing ecclesial justice by suddenly changing Anglican provinces is a highly questionable track to the high road, independent of one’s standing on the progressive/orthodox line. I, for one, believe that the ugly situation in Colorado has almost nothing to do with church politics, but rather speaks volumes to the “corporate” mindset toward monetary ethics that “corporate” parishes employ.They seek to avoid taxes and reward the CEO creatively, but I could be wrong. However, having been Sr. Warden of a corporate parish not torn by the current strife, I think I could imagine the naive acquiescence of all involved.Such a shame it’s so vulgar for the innocents trapped in the community.

[8] Posted by John D on 04-14-2007 at 02:50 PM • top

RE: “I’m not so certain that Fr. Radner’s association with IRD is the least bit helpful to establishing his ability to communicate successfully with moderate Episcopalians, and tying anyone to Fr. Armstrong’s financial chicanery is certainly a great, big negative. However one views the IRD, it is an openly revolutionary political organization, and moderates don’t love revolution, no matter how incisive Sarah’s rhetorical prose becomes.”

And as I have said repeatedly, Ephraim Radner does not need to establish “his ability to communicate successfully with moderate Episcopalians”.  Moderate Episcopalians are not viewing blogs and are trying very very hard not to notice anything at all—and most likely will succeed.

No, revisionist Episcopalians don’t like Radner or the IRD.  Traditionalist Episcopalians do.

RE: “However one views the IRD, it is an openly revolutionary political organization . . . “

LOL.  You mean like Che?  ; > ) 

One man’s “openly revolutionary political organization” is another’s conservative think-tank which works to resist the revisionism within mainline denominations. 

“Revolutionary” I suppose means “those who fight against the efforts of progressives”.  ; > )

And that’s a good thing—except for progressive activists in the Episcopal church and other mainline denominations who had been enjoying a comfortable non-resisted ride for quite some time.

[9] Posted by Sarah on 04-14-2007 at 03:06 PM • top

John D.,
You and EmilyH and C.B. come here to cast stones at Fr. Armstrong, Fr. Radner, the IRD and the ACI. It is very obvious from your posts that you all have already made up your minds about these entities regardless of whatever evidence is presented.

John D. says:

fleeing ecclesial justice by suddenly changing Anglican provinces is a highly questionable track to the high road, independent of one’s standing on the progressive/orthodox line. I, for one, believe that the ugly situation in Colorado has almost nothing to do with church politics, but rather speaks volumes to the “corporate” mindset toward monetary ethics that “corporate” parishes employ

Let’s unpack this a bit. It makes sense to change Anglican Provinces when it is fairly certain that a fair and unbiased trial cannot be obtained by staying in the one you are currently in. Bishop O’Neill’s actions and statements belie his neutrality in this matter. They also give the lie to your statement that the situation in Colorado has nothing to do with Church politics. It has everything to do with church politics! Currently, Bishop O’Neill and the Diocese of Colorado are conducting a trial by public media.  That is the sort of tactic used when things are very political. John, me boy, you need to get out more!

[10] Posted by Allen Lewis on 04-14-2007 at 06:06 PM • top

Dear Allen, as a matter of fact, I get out quite a bit. While I did not share the information earlier, my “corporate” parish has just completed the painful inhibition, forensic audit, and dismissal of a valued rector for “poor stewardship” of his discretionary fund. I have no personal knowledge of either Fr. Armstrong or his bishop, but I can clearly see that this priest chose to avoid remedies offered by the church for the glare of a public fight from without the Episcopal Church. You know Bishop O’Neill to be not only not a traditional conservative, but also a liar and a persecutor? And you accuse me of casting stones? Pot. Kettle. Black.

[11] Posted by John D on 04-14-2007 at 06:54 PM • top

And you know what, Sarah, I DID almost site Che for the hyperbole,alone! LOL, indeed.

[12] Posted by John D on 04-14-2007 at 06:59 PM • top

John D. says<blockquote>fleeing ecclesial justice by suddenly changing Anglican provinces is a highly questionable track to the high road, independent of one’s standing on the progressive/orthodox line. I, for one, believe that the ugly situation in Colorado has almost nothing to do with church politics, but rather speaks volumes to the “corporate” mindset toward monetary ethics that “corporate” parishes employ.They seek to avoid taxes and reward the CEO creatively, but I could be wrong.</blockquote

John, you’ve got to be kidding right?  You’re painting with some mighty broad brushstrokes, don’t you think?  On second thought, your “I could be wrong” could satisfy, as I think you are mighty wrong on all accounts!

[13] Posted by more martha than mary on 04-14-2007 at 07:22 PM • top

RE: “And you know what, Sarah, I DID almost site Che for the hyperbole,alone!”

From a revisionist I would not have thought it hyperbole, but merely standard boilerplate rhetoric.

; > )

[14] Posted by Sarah on 04-14-2007 at 10:23 PM • top

Re:“standard boilerplate rhetoric”

Got me ;>)  How about trading Che for Spong, and
calling it a draw?
You are,clearly, the most amusing reasserter on the web,Sarah,
which keeps me reading, even if rarely commenting.

[15] Posted by John D on 04-15-2007 at 06:29 AM • top

RE: “How about trading Che for Spong, and calling it a draw?”

Wait a minute!  You give me Che as my representative—a Freud and Bertrand Russell-loving, woman-using, failed Marxist revolutionary who thought particularly well of his intellect and couldn’t get along with all of his would-be “peasant allies”, and who traded on the publicity of a few brief moments of victory in Cuba all of the rest of his short-lived life? 

This guy is *your* kind of guy!!!  He’s a classic Episcopal reappraiser!

How about you keep Spong, take Che too, and we’ll keep Ephraim Radner.

I guess we can call that a draw if you like.

[16] Posted by Sarah on 04-15-2007 at 07:17 AM • top

I am NOT a reappraiser, I’m a revisionist!
You said.

[17] Posted by John D on 04-15-2007 at 07:27 AM • top

Oh, reappraiser, revisionist, progressive, Stalinist, Maoist . . . same difference.

; > )

[18] Posted by Sarah on 04-15-2007 at 10:07 AM • top

Help!
What is IRD? I read the link and now know who is on it and how to contribute, but I don’t know what IRD stands for / is. Help.

[19] Posted by Chapie+ on 04-15-2007 at 11:58 AM • top

For Chappie:  I put this elsewhere but you might be able to use it.

AAC is a 501c3 organization and files a 990AR.  The ACN claims to be tax exempt but does not appear to file a 990AR (it may see itself as an association of churches and therefore not required to file a 990AR.)  David Virtue’s site also claims gifts to it are tax exempt but I am unable to locate a 990AR for it either; it could be under another name).  The IRD, is also a 501c3, and files a 990AR.  There are several “charity” watchdog organizations who publish the names of major donors to organizations.  Try Media Transparency for organizations that are viewed as political or quasi-political organizations.  The IRD is often cast in that light.  If you want to make a “gift” to the members of the ACI, I doubt your accountant would frown if you wrote a personal check, made sure it was under 10,000K (to avoid the gift tax) and took no tax deduction for it.

[20] Posted by EmilyH on 04-15-2007 at 12:51 PM • top

I have to say that the passage of time, EmilyH, is showing Sarah’s evaluation of you appears to be correct.  I’m not sure what you expect to accomplish by continuing to drop very technical, “innocent” questions - “gawlee, shucks, I just thought of something else, dadgummit!”

So you are unable to locate a 990AR.  Great.  Why does it matter if you, personally, do or do not locate a 990 AR?  And why would you be spending time looking for it in the first place?  Shucks, EmilyH, just a few innocent questions that come to mind on my part.  Maybe you could spend a few minutes answering them.

[21] Posted by Phil on 04-15-2007 at 01:13 PM • top

I am looking because my expertise is in the area of charitable giving.  One doesn’t have to be a reasserter or a reappraiser to care for the integrity of the donor/recipient relationship and, if donors are willing to give, help them to give wisely.  My experience is with universities.  The first thing that any respectable donor foundation wants to see or any major donor is an organization’s IRS tax exempt letter.  The organization then should be willing to provide the answers to two basic questions:  “What is the overhead cost of raising this dollar.  How much of it is actually going to the cause for which it was solicited?”  I don’t believe that just because an organization may escape these questions,  legally, because it counts its funds under an “umbrella” organization, it should escape a moral responsibility to be as transparent as possible to its donor/supporters.  Any organization, church, public charity whatever, whose managers fail to provide such transparency hurts the giving community not just now but in the future.  Again, it’s about relationships and the integrity of relationships.  The point isn’t that these folks have hurt the “reasserter” cause, they’ve hurt EVERYBODY’s cause because they have broken the trust that is essential in philanthropy.  I’m not mad because I am a “reappraiser” or “progressive” or “orthodox of the heart” or whatever you want to call me.  I’m mad because the failed stewardship of these folks has injured a fundamental relationship of trust.  That trust takes years to build and can be gone in an instant.  I hope that Chaffie will be treated well and honestly.  I’m pretty sure that a personal gift as noted above to Radner+ will be ok.  It’s not tax deductible but it won’t be entangled with Grace or the ACI.

[22] Posted by EmilyH on 04-15-2007 at 01:41 PM • top

RE: “The first thing that any respectable donor foundation wants to see or any major donor is an organization’s IRS tax exempt letter.”

I am afraid, though, that you are quite wrong.  I’ve given plenty of things and money to organizations that are not 501 (c) 3.  If one does not desire to make a tax-deductible gift and one trusts the organization, then there is no need for an “IRS tax exempt letter” . . .

RE: “I’m mad because the failed stewardship of these folks has injured a fundamental relationship of trust.”

LOL.

No wait.

FOTCLSH.  ; > )

Yes, that’s it!  EmilyH has been making all of her transparently obvious comments about the ACI/Ephraim Radner/Kendall Harmon because she’s concerned about all those trusting traditional/reassertering Episcopal donors.  ; > )

Ya just gotta chuckle some times. 

First it was “oooooh, Ephraim Radner is on the IRD board, panic, fire, help, horrors, save us!!!”.

And then when that didn’t fly along came the opportunity to discover the ACI mentioned as a line-item in the presentment and it was “ooooh, how Perfectly Awful—was the ACI profiting from Grace Church—did Ephraim Radner [member of the Covenant Design Team, tsk tsk] get paid anything?”

That didn’t fly either.

Then it was “panic, fire, help — an Evil Wicked Reasserter Organization Full of Horrible Well-Funded and Vast Quantities of Reasserters!”.

And then it was “hah, a tiny minority that *pretended* to be an Evil Wicked Reasserter Organization Full of Horrible Well-Funded and Vast Quantities of Reasserters—and how dare they list such a great board on their website!!” ; > )

And now it is “sob, I’m just so sad for all of those trusting reasserters whom I love so dearly—their loss has simply broken my heart and my voice is trembling with outraged indignation for their lost innocence” . . . ; > )

Give it a few days and it will be “panic, fire, help — an Evil Wicked Reasserter Organization Full of Horrible Well-Funded and Vast Quantities of Reasserters!” again.

[23] Posted by Sarah on 04-15-2007 at 06:09 PM • top

Hey John D (if you’re still there): welcome to orthodoxy-land where “Oh, reappraiser, revisionist, progressive, Stalinist, Maoist . . . same difference. ; > )” is today’s order.  It really isn’t that bad, in median.  At the limtis it can be pretty awful as you have discovered.  The great missing link for orthodoxy is the squeaking wheels are the ones most heard, the thoughtful and (perhaps) constructive ones are hunkered down waiting for more fertile soil than Sarah to be revealed.  It takes time, as Jesus taught.  Peace

[24] Posted by terebinth on 04-15-2007 at 07:00 PM • top

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