News Agency Of Nigeria Reporter Issues Retraction of Remarks About Bishop Orama

Jake?

ABC????

The silence is DEAFENING,isn’t it,Fr Matt?

I’ll save Fr. Jake the trouble of a reply.  It’d probably be something like this anyway. 

“Everybody knows that Abp. Akinola really controls everything in Nigeria, including the press.  He very likely had the reporter’s family detained in some undisclosed location and let the reporter know that unless there was a prompt and complete retraction, he would never see them again.  Hence the above recanting of the original report. 

Oh, and did I mention his communications director is a liar?”

That about right, Fr. J.?

Matt,

You can easily tell by the syntax and the headers in the email that +Minns actually wrote the retraction and put it on the lips of Emeka Ogenyi.

Fake Jake

I think we need to come up with new “tags” so we can indicate satire that we wish attribute to reappraisers.  We could write (jake) (/jake) before and after the satire.

YBIC,
Phil Snyder

Out dammed spot out!!!
Lady Jakebeth

While I apologize for the mistake and to state that the report was not written in bad faith I wish to express my commitment to the evangelization of the gospel through this medium.

What am I supposed to understand from this?

The report was not written in bad faith?  How can that be if the report is untrue?

Does the journalist think that he was evangelizing the Gospel when he misreported Orama?  Were the words originally attributed to Orama really the reporters own thoughts?

What do they say over there?

Oh, that’s right, “Crickets.”

Fr. Jake said on his blog:

This is from SF, folks. Worth nil, as you all know.

First it’s from an address, then from an interview…can’t even keep their story straight.

However, it is good to see that even extremists like those at SF are investing so much time and energy in distancing themselves from such hate speech.

I agree with Patrick. As evidenced on the Church of Nigeria’s website, it is a positive development to see such ugly words withdrawn.
Jake | Homepage | 09.13.07 - 3:04 pm | #

{jake} Screw the truth, I have an agenda {/jake}

This is from SF, folks. Worth nil, as you all know.

And the listening process continues…

Jake, if you can find a moment to come up for air out of your sea of denial, I’ll send you the reporter’s email address and you can contact him yourself. I’m sure that if we’ve “misrepresented” his retraction, he’ll be eager to set the record straight with you. Are you willing to do this, or is what we’re seeing over at your site what passes now for decency from you people?

Fr Jake

UPDATE: Bishop Orama has now made this public statement. It is helpful that he is now on record as denying such hateful language. Thank you, Bishop.

He’s been on record, when asked he denied it. Popoola reported as much. That is a record, a very public one. The Church of Nigeria decides who their spokesman is and that is a record. Not accepting it is a choice but it doesn’t change that fact. Jake might wish to thank Popoola too, he’s the one who went and got the denial for him.

He has publicly denied saying such things. His denial is on the Nigerian website. This is probably the last we will hear about this matter from Nigeria. We will never know the full story.

Not knowing Bp. Orama, I am uncomfortable with speculating any further on this. I’m leaving the stories up, but will probably have little more to say about the matter.

We can be thankful that it has been made clear that such language from any Anglican bishop will not be tolerated.

Jake heard from all the principles and that is the story. Only someone desperate for it to be true would think it could be more “full”. I guess fullness is only when it fits what Jake thinks.

Thanks to Jake for admitting that all he was ever doing was speculating too. Up until now Jake has just been trying to maintain some kind of illusion.

And we were thankful that such language from any Anglican bishop will not be tolerated right after it was reported. Now we can be thankful that Jake has shown pretty much beyond doubt that he and his blog have little interest in listening to or accepting anything that doesn’t fit his illusions.

Fr Jake Stops The World….indeed…chiefly because he can’t bring himself to deal with reality.

The personal attacks on Fr. Jake are unedifying.  Read the Matt 5:43-45 passage.

Now wouldn’t it be nice if such language as we hear from Anne Holmes Redding or Ed Bacon or John Spong or heck, even Shadwyn would be condemned by Jake, Susan, Liz, Mark and Katharine.  I’m not giving up.  After all, I still believe in miracles.

anglicanhopeful: they are as edifying as Fr Jake spending the last few days dancing around with his fingers in his ears going “La, La, La….can’t hear you!” which pretty much sums up his entire argument.

Rocks—should we base our responses on what we perceive to be the negative responses of others??

What a weird story.  I just don’t get it.  The reporter apologizes, but he doesn’t explain how the “mistake” happened in the first place.  Did he just make up the false quote himself—and if so, why??

Hmmm.  Some whining.  Some out-freaking.  Let it go, friends.  You cannot argue with people who have no basis for truth.  It is like trying to nail Jell-o to the wall.  All you get are sticky nails.  All our pointing out of their inconsistency only serves them by providing them the opportunity to be consistent in it.  Goosfra-a-a-ba-a-ah.

REALLY need that quote to be true, don’t you, Jake?

Anglican Hopeful,we could read an excerpt from 2 Peter 2:3 when it comes to Fr Jake’s commitment to keeping the fantasy alive,goes like this,‘will try to exploit you too with their bogus arguments’(Phillips).

Re:  Father Jake’s STILL Gracious Response

That’s IT, Jake, I’m banning you from your own site!!!!

YOU’VE EARNED IT!!

Best Regards,

Anglican Cats of the Internet

Jake epitomizes Titus 1:15 “Everything is pure to those whose hearts are pure. But nothing is pure to those who are corrupt and unbelieving, because their minds and consciences are corrupted.”

You know, the cool thing about Father Jake is the knowledge that we all have about just how bitter he is.

“This is from SF, folks. Worth nil, as you all know.”

Bitter, bitter, bitter.

Not angry, but bitter.

I think we all should ponder a bit why that is so.

RE: “We can be thankful that it has been made clear that such language from any Anglican bishop will not be tolerated.”

No.  It has been made clear that such language from an Anglican bishop never occurred.  ; > )

Pumped by the progressives, like Father Jake.  And now dashed into the ground and pulverized into fine powder.

It’s gotta sting a little that what you wanted so badly to be a Big Big Really Big and Awful Story . . . has just died away into a little whimper.

Regarding Father Jake-Rev.Terry Martin, this is my feeling on the matter:

If you take a look at his parish, it seems like a nice, middle-of-the-road, standard Episcopal parish.  Bake Sales, fundraisers, Pot lucks, all those nice friendly things a neighborhood parish has.  I am sure the parishoners are solid people, making their way through life.  They are probably not the hardcore evangelical types who would join the “Anglican Communion Network”, but I am also sure that Holy Spirit Tuckerton is not going to become the local Integrity Chapter either.  Rev. Martin’s sermons are nice, and on a scale from Matt Kennedy to Jack Spong, they lean toward Kennedy.

I get the feeling that Rev. Terry Martin’s real parish is much different than his virtual one, however.  His virtual parish is radically left-wing.  They see conspiracies under every stone, they are forming protests at that “Fundamentalist” Wheaton College, and anticipating possible arrests. They accuse conservatives of promoting violence, hatred, and theft.  Outrageous claims are encouraged, and Rev. Terry (as Father Jake), makes sure his virtual parish is in a contstant state of outrage. His virtual parish lives and breathes on anger.  Stand Firm in Faith is Evil! (and all the clever, sexually charged nicknames for it).  Father Matt is banned!  He had it coming!  Griffith is a “First Class Asshat”!.  They are constantly under threat by brownshirts, homophobes, and spiritual genociders.  This stuff is much more exciting than pot-luck dinners.

That is why this thing with Bishop Orama was so embraced by Terry.  It was really one of the best things that could happen to his virtual parish.  This was an attack from a truly evil person.  Violence was in the air.  Even though the story seemed a bit shaky from the start, it had to be true.  When the first denial came from Canon Poopla, well, “He’s a liar!”.  When the reporter retracts the story - who threatened him?  This is a war, afterall.  There had to be a cover-up

Sigh.  I really do pray for Rev. Terry Martin.  I like Terry Martin. I really don’t believe he is a bad guy.  I know he had a tough time growing up, and I am sure he has a lot to teach us about life.  Terry Martin is a good man: a parish priest, a father, husband, grandfather.  Father Jake, is not so good.  Father Jake is a name-caller, conspiracy theorist, a “bomb-thrower” as they say.  More Terry, less Jake, please

That is just the feeling I get, following all this for the last couple years.

DoW:

What I think of people’s ‘good sides’ and ‘bad sides’ is this Lewis quote:

“Surely what a man does when he is taken off his guard is the best evidence for what sort of a man he is? Surely what pops out before the man has time to put on a disguise is the truth? If there are rats in a cellar you are most likely to see them if you go in very suddenly. But the suddenness does not create the rats: it only prevents them from hiding. In the same way the suddenness of the provocation does not make me an ill-tempered man; it only shows me what an ill-tempered man I am. The rats are always there in the cellar, but if you go in shouting and noisily they will have taken cover before you switch on the light. “

Reality is when we are at our worst is also when we are showing our true self - which is a sobering reality - for ALL of us - including Jake.

“Reality is when we are at our worst is also when we are showing our true self - which is a sobering reality - for ALL of us - including Jake.”

There is a coffee cup on our kitchen countter that says: “Character is what you do when only God is watching you.”

It sounds like the ‘reporter’ has an agenda.  He had no idea his words would reach the world through NAN and UPI.  Or, maybe he did.

And I do like Father Jake - in a way.  He is, from what DOW supposes, a virtual character on the internet.  Not a real person.  A role being played.  It’s interesting. 

Matt+ and the rest of us are real people ‘fighting’, or at least debating, a virtual person.

I think knowing that somehow cheapens the Banned by Jake label.  It’s all just a role playing game to him.

<a >DoW,

Thanks for the thoughtful (and thought-provoking) post.  It reminded me of a couple of things, somehow vaguely connected to the FrJake phenomenon (which I also notice in the SaltyVicar)—

1)  There was a cartoon in the New Yorker many years ago: Man in an armchair, scowling fiercely, woman in background explaining to little girl, “Don’t worry, darling, Daddy’s been selling all day and he’s just resting his face.”

2)  Around a decade ago, as a joke a physicist submitted to a prominent academic journal of postmodern socio-literary criticism an article full of all the obligatory postmodern buzzwords which, once the jargon was cleared aside, argued that the physical universe—i.e. all reality—was merely a social construct and did not, in fact, exist.  The article was published, quite seriously, by the journal.

Of course, the second item might simply be due to my having read the bishops’ legal report which was just posted here on SF…

Whoops!  Apologies for forgetting the link close tag…

Meanwhile - peaked at Jake’s webpage - after the outrage, this retraction of the story is completely missing…

I guess the best way to deal with reality for the non-orthodox is just pretend it doesn’t exist…

Fr. Jake?  Or Cornelius Fudge?  You make the call…

So, does EMEKA OGENYI claim to be a Christian? Interesting.

Jake and friends need bigotry to exist. (That said, Bishop Orama is not a bigot.)