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+Beisner (Nor. Cal.) Statement on HoB Meeting

Thursday, September 27, 2007 • 10:29 pm


From here:

Dear Friends in Christ:

I returned home last night from the week-long House of Bishops meeting in New Orleans .  I have much to say about that meeting, including a description of the inspiring Katrina recovery work our church is engaged in there, and further thanks to you for your contributions to it.  But space (and time) only permit me to say so much in this particular medium.  So, please consider this Part I of my report.  (Part II will come next week.)

First of all, I want to say how grateful I am for your prayers.  I was pleased, along with all the bishops, to receive a beautiful “Prayer Shawl” made for us as a pledge of prayerful support by National Episcopal Health Ministries.  It was a wonderful gift, and it reminded me not just of their prayers, but of yours.  I know that many of you were praying for us.  I certainly felt it.  I am grateful.

If you have not yet read the HOB statement entitled “A Response to Questions and Concerns Raised by our Anglican Communion Partners,” I hope that you will do so.  I also ask that copies be made available in all our congregations.  The text of the statement can be found on the Episcopal News Service website:  http://episcopalchurch.org/79901_90457_ENG_HTM.htm

It must be said: watch out for the media reports on this matter.  Even a very able reporter for our own Episcopal News Service attributed words to me which I did not speak.  (I addressed the House about the problem of incursions into our dioceses from extra-provincial bishops, and my comments were largely incorporated into the final version of the Response; the subsequent article quoted me speaking on General Convention Resolution B033, about which I said not a word!)  It was an honest error, but it serves as a reminder to be very careful in taking in and responding to what we read—being most especially careful (as the Windsor Report reminds us to be) with on-line communications.

The passage of the Response was nearly unanimous—there was only one dissenting voice. As expected, people are interpreting that statement in various ways, largely reflecting their various interests.  I spoke with one of the more conservative bishops in the airport on the way home yesterday, and I think his assessment is basically correct: “The center held.  The center has grown larger and stronger.”  I agree, and. as a self-described radical moderate, I find that trend to be very gratifying.

The Archbishop of Canterbury himself told us (corroborating what we heard last March) that the Primates’ Communiqué was not an ultimatum, and that September 30 was not a deadline.  Several members of the Joint Standing Committee who were with us indicated their support and appreciation.  (Nevertheless, “Demands Rejected” read one newspaper headline….)  No matter what you may read, the HOB Response is not a defiant rejection, but a candid description of our differences, a good faith commitment to the Windsor process, and a very positive expression of desire to continue working in partnership with all members of the Anglican Communion for the sake of our common mission.

Archbishop Akinola is said to be unhappy with our Response.  That is no surprise, since he has already established 4 bishops for counter-TEC work in this country.  No one thought for a moment that they would stand down, even if we had given everything he says he wants from us.  It is clear, then, that mere appeasement is not an option.  Instead, protecting the integrity of The Episcopal Church, we are seeking to work with the Anglican Consultative Council, the Primates, and the Archbishop of Canterbury to be fully active and faithful participants in the Anglican Communion.  The Joint Standing Committee has already indicated preliminary appreciation of our Response.  They will meet and report to the Archbishop of Canterbury, perhaps as early as today or tomorrow; soon thereafter, we should be hearing some additional word from him.

Not all members of the House were happy with all aspects of the final Response, me included.  But everyone present was listened to and valued.  Everyone agreed to give something for the sake of our unity. Worship was central to our work, the serious work of building true community, and of being attentive to the guidance of the Spirit.  We know that we cannot have common discernment if we do not have common prayer.

I remain committed to the Windsor Process as the best way forward for us.  I remain committed to the full inclusion of all baptized Christians in the full life of the Church.  These things you have heard from me before.  I am pleased to report that there was ample room for me at the House of Bishops table.  I am also pleased to tell you that the quality of leadership I am seeing in my fellow bishops and our Presiding Bishop is inspiring.  I have great confidence in The Episcopal Church, and in the Diocese of Northern California.

Grace and peace to you all.

+Barry


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I love this about ABp Akinola, “That is no surprise, since he has already established 4 bishops for counter-TEC work in this country.” I am sure that ABp Akinola will get a chuckle but also be somewhat sad that Beisner could be so clueless about the motivations of ABp Akinola who serves, as ABp Akinola said, the Gospel message of freedom, justice and dignity for all persons which can only be found in heartfelt repentance and joyful obedience to the Truth.

[1] Posted by robroy on 09-27-2007 at 09:42 PM • top

Quote ” I remain committed to the Windsor Process as the best way forward for us. I remain committed to the full inclusion of all baptized Christians in the full life of the Church. And I remain committed to my third wife until I grow tired of her”

[2] Posted by via orthodoxy on 09-27-2007 at 09:46 PM • top

This is why the silence of the Windsor Bishops matters so much. Not because their ‘No’s’ would have won the day, nor because they would have gone down heroically standing in the breach but because it would have permitted the truth to be seen. Their silence permits the self described ‘radicals’ to go on announcing that the church is nearly unanimously united. The Windsor votes would have permitted a considerably more truthful depiction of reality.

[3] Posted by driver8 on 09-27-2007 at 10:00 PM • top

What on earth is a “radical moderate” besides an oxymoron?\

And once again, very, very concerning words about what the Anglican Consultative Council told the House of Bishops.

Oh, and it’s hilarious that he “remains committed” to the Windsor process.  I mean, we had those who were pretending to be.  But it’s news to me Bishop Beisner was in that group.

[4] Posted by Nasty, Brutish & Short on 09-27-2007 at 10:06 PM • top

No one thought for a moment that they would stand down, even if we had given everything he says he wants from us.

I find this attitude from liberals so tiring.  When has TEC ever come even CLOSE to meeting any Communion requests?  Let’s ignore the Communion requests because we think - without any evidence whatsoever - that the conservative primates wouldn’t accept it anyway.

Earth to Beisner and the liberal bishops - “Why don’t you TRY it sometime?”

And then there’s this:

It must be said: watch out for the media reports on this matter…. be very careful in taking in and responding to what we read—being most especially careful (as the Windsor Report reminds us to be) with on-line communications.

In other words, don’t believe what anybody else says about what we did - only believe us.  When leaders begin to warn you against all media reports about what they did, you know they are either trying to pull the wool over your eyes, or they have seriously departed from the realm of reality.

I used to respect Bp. Beisner’s position in this area.  But this letter is way beyond the pale.  Bp. Beisner has now firmly declared that he is no friend of Communion discipline, but has solidly placed himself in the ideological-liberal wing of the HoB.

[5] Posted by jamesw on 09-28-2007 at 12:19 AM • top

” As expected, people are interpreting that statement in various ways, largely reflecting their various interests. “

Well, there you have it. The primates asked for clarity, and what they got was obscurity . . . .  “as expected” . . . .

The “Response:” one more example of classic, Anglican bafflegab.  Anglicanism is congenitally and constitutionally incapable of clarity.

[6] Posted by JPC on 09-28-2007 at 06:16 AM • top

“This is why the silence of the Windsor Bishops matters so much. Not because their ‘No’s’ would have won the day, nor because they would have gone down heroically standing in the breach but because it would have permitted the truth to be seen.”

They heard these boneheads in March. They took them at their word. They knew there would be no change. And they began working toward an orthodox Anglican presence in America. (See Common Cause) You only need to be beat on the head once. Twice is foolish. Three times is suicidal. NO MORE LISTENING TO THE WHINES. Time for action. (See Iker, Ackerman et al.)

[7] Posted by Anglican Paplist on 09-28-2007 at 08:23 AM • top

ouch robroy-should you have italicised that last bit? very good though….

[8] Posted by southernvirginia1 on 09-28-2007 at 08:29 AM • top

yep. i stopped attending a church in january because a sermon was preached, without regard to the lectionary, implying the evil of Abp Akinola and then-to-be-bp Minns. Not having young children i had been able to slide by a lot of things, but that was not slide-byable.

[9] Posted by southernvirginia1 on 09-28-2007 at 08:32 AM • top

Greg,
  You need to get the investigative team to work as there is an important document from NO which is missing. I believe there was a form letter supplied by 815 for Bishops to address their donors.
The letter probably looks something like this:

<blockquote> Dear [friend or equivalent, may be ambiguously religious]
The community of bishops met in NO. We came together and through hard work found a way forward. Many thanks to our PB.
Liberal section: Gays are da bomb!
Conservative section: Jesus is da bomb!
Damn the media, giving specific examples where appropriate.

Sincerely[ or similar such as “All your bases are belong to us!]
+[Your name]

*** Special note these words are examples should not be used verbatim, especially “da bomb!”

[10] Posted by Rocks on 09-28-2007 at 09:17 AM • top

It must be said: watch out for the media reports on this matter.

I find this new distrust of the media highly amusing. It’s so hard to convince reporters that “no” is really “yes.”

[11] Posted by oscewicee on 09-28-2007 at 09:24 AM • top

As raw material for fisking, this might be described as an overly target-rich environment.  In just a single paragraph—

... protecting the integrity of The Episcopal Church, ...

Whoops! Forgot to capitalize “Integrity”!

... we are seeking to work with the Anglican Consultative Council, the Primates, and the Archbishop of Canterbury to be fully active and faithful participants in the Anglican Communion.

“Faithful” here is to be understood in the same sense as “faithful contributor to the March of Dimes” or the like; we intend to be regular participants, pushing our agenda by tantrum and bribery at every opportunity.  What other meaning could it possibly have?

The Joint Standing Committee has already indicated preliminary appreciation of our Response.

Half right; what it <a >appreciated</a> was “the generosity and graciousness of the welcome that they have received”, the opportunity to “join members of the House of Bishops and their spouses in participating in active mission projects in the city of New Orleans so grievously affected by Hurricane Katrina”, and the “patience, generosity and an intensity of debate on the Monday and Tuesday which illustrates how seriously the concerns of the wider Communion are taken by the Episcopal House of Bishops.”  This is hardly the ringing endorsement of the Response that +Beisner implies.  (In fact, their only comment on the Response, afaIk, is an acknowledgment of its receipt and a promise to study it and send comments to the ABC.  Speaking of which—)

They will meet and report to the Archbishop of Canterbury, perhaps as early as today or tomorrow; soon thereafter, we should be hearing some additional word from him.

Kyrie eleison.  Keep up the prayers, brethren.

[12] Posted by Craig Goodrich on 09-28-2007 at 10:48 AM • top

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