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Monday, December 10, 2007 • 8:29 pm


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RETREAT JANUARY 11th-13th 2008
“Trans-Spirituality, Trans-Gender, Trans-Spirit, and Transforming”

The OASIS is pleased to announce that noted author, feminist theologian, scholar and academicianVirginia Ramey Mollenkott will be the facilitator at our next retreat, to be held January 11th-13th, 2008 at Mt. Paul in Oak Ridge, N.J.

Mollenckott offers these definitions: “I understand transgender to be an umbrella term for all people who transgress our society’s dominant gender paradigm: gay, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual, intersexual, unconventional heterosexual and all other transgender people. By transreligious I refer to the themes of universal compassion and justice common to the great world religions. By transforming I refer to both personal and societal healing.”

The retreat will begin with supper on Friday, January 11th at 6:00 p.m. and will end after lunch on Sunday, January 13th. There will be facilitated sessions on Friday and Saturday, and time on Sunday for personal reflection.

The retreat will take place at Mt. Paul in Oak Ridge, N.J. The cost to participate is $125.00, which includes overnight accommodation and meals. Scholarships are available.

 


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It’s a shame and a surprise that the whole thing is taking place at a Paulist retreat centre (and a beautiful one at that). Although, for the Diocese of Newark, no big surprise there.

-j

[1] Posted by jjostm on 12-10-2007 at 08:55 PM • top

transgress our society’s dominant gender paradigm

Clearly, this mollycoddler is not into repentance for her transgressions.

...still in the Briar Patch,

[2] Posted by Br_er Rabbit on 12-10-2007 at 08:58 PM • top

unconventional heterosexual ?

On second thought, don’t bother.  I don’t want to know.

[3] Posted by wildfire on 12-10-2007 at 09:00 PM • top

Agreed, Mark. I clicked on the link, and as it was coming up I thought, “What am I doing? and was able to abort it before it came up.

...still in the Briar Patch,

[4] Posted by Br_er Rabbit on 12-10-2007 at 09:02 PM • top

She used to be considered (and considered herself to be) an evangelical.  But the Bible could not be allowed to stand in the way of who she really was, and so she has abandoned her faith—and her Lord.

[5] Posted by AnglicanXn on 12-10-2007 at 09:03 PM • top

RE: “unconventional heterosexual . . . “

Hmmmm/

I just can’t imagine what that means.

[6] Posted by Sarah on 12-10-2007 at 09:12 PM • top

Heh, I was wondering how long it would take for them to want to bless the swingers!

[7] Posted by teatime on 12-10-2007 at 09:14 PM • top

More paganism.

[8] Posted by Phil on 12-10-2007 at 09:15 PM • top

intersexual

That’s one I haven’t heard before.

Come to think of it, don’t tell me what it is. I don’t want to know.

[9] Posted by selah on 12-10-2007 at 09:17 PM • top

I don’t know what it means either, but I think I’ll throw up anyway…

[10] Posted by Payton on 12-10-2007 at 09:21 PM • top

RE: “unconventional heterosexual . . . “

How about celebate - not sexually involved and a dedicated Christian. That’s rather unusual for a hetrosexual in these days….

[11] Posted by DaveB in VT on 12-10-2007 at 09:25 PM • top

Given the litany of past simultaneous religious observances, Trans-Spirit seems rather fitting.
These are the simultaneous religious affiliations/observances that I recall from previous posts and private communication:

12/07 Sacramento cathedral hosts[url=“http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/3814”> to construct mandala and hold Medicine Buddha Healing Ceremony
12/07 Seattle parish offers <a >astrology workshop</a>
10/07 <a >Sufi dance</a> taught in Seattle cathedral
9/07 <a >Navajo</a> teachers and medicine men help with a Navajo blessing ceremony during consecration of bishop
6/07 <a >Interfaith baptism</a> in Newark (Muslim and Jewish prayers added to Christian liturgy)
6/07 Episcopal priest in Seattle announces she is a<a ] Muslim[/url].
5/07 A liberal Episcopal layman/ordained Sufi leads Sufi healing circle meetings at St. Philip’s Cathedral, Atlanta, GA
4/07 A copyrighted Liturgy of Invitation was celebrated by the Episcopal Committee on Science, Techology, and Faith.  Readings included antitheistic philosophy.  (Not on SF.)
9/06 A Tibetan Buddhist lama leads a guided meditation for EDS seminarians & faculty.
5/06 Episcopal Bookstore offers pagan book Love Potions for sale online.
4/06 Wiccan priest/Episcopal layman surfaces, having had essays published on the Oasis blog and Father Jake’s blog and Louie Crew’s blog.
4/05 Two<a > Druid</a>/Episcopal priests exposed in Pennsylvania.
5/04 A transgender shaman/pagan priest and a witch are featured speakers at a conference partly sponsored by the Episcopal diocese of Michigan GLBT outreach group
1/95 <a >Gaia mass</a> in Grace Cathedral, San Francisco.

[12] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 12-10-2007 at 09:29 PM • top

Maybe a fellow Catholic can help my poor memory.  But is the Paulist center mentioned here the same Paulist center where certain Pro Abort politicians regulary attended mass and received communion? If so this center is no stranger to scandel.  I sure do wish someone would unlock the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch and give it a good lob.

[13] Posted by Paula Loughlin on 12-10-2007 at 10:02 PM • top

Jill-
Thanks for your post.
I think it would be well worth someone with a blog thingie to keep an updated list of these types of events with dates, links, and descriptions.

It would be helfpul for Anglican Bishops who think the Episcopal Church may have just stepped over the line on the “sexuality issue.” It would be helpful for those timid Bishops in ECUSA who may still have the heart of an orthodox follower of Jesus Christ. It would be helpful for those in the pews who have may not yet realized that ECUSA is, or is about to be, a new religion. It would be helpful for people like me, priests praying for his next step. And it would be helpful for those involved in ecumenical dialogue with ECUSA (at least those who believe in the essentials of “Mere” or “credal” Christianity) for it shows them with whom they are truly conversing. It would also be helpful for faithful members of Christian “groups” who run conference centers—in other words, it may help these conference centers to “just say no” to this type of nonsense.

A page that gives comprehensive information of this type will show just how far the walking apart has gone and will hopefully shed light on the situation we are facing—of which Gene Robinson is but a symptom but that abandonment of Christianity is the true disease.

Again- thank you and I really hope one of our faithful and technologically savy bloggers would organize a page dedicated solely to this type of information. I also hope that all the faithful bloggers would post a link to this proposed page.
Pax,
KGL+

[14] Posted by KGL+ on 12-10-2007 at 10:12 PM • top

Ah, we forgot the Clown Liturgy.

“Taketh thou thine holy hand grenade and removeth the sacred pin.  Then thou shall counteth to three.  Three shall be the number of the counting.  Thy shall not count to two, nor one, and certainly not four, but THREE shall be the number of the counting….”

KTF!...mrb

[15] Posted by Mike Bertaut on 12-10-2007 at 11:27 PM • top

Amazing…simply…amazing…..Ya’ know, I’m glad I got saved back in ‘79, before the church had degenerated to this point. I might have been a very confused, young Christian.

[16] Posted by Bob K. on 12-11-2007 at 02:23 AM • top

Maybe Trans-Spirit is an inclusivity thing—you know, inclusive of all spirits. 
If so, then the antonym of Trans-Spirit would be deliverance of spirits.  So, if they’re inclusive of all spirits, then they have no acknowledged need for a Deliverer?
If they’re inclusive of all spirits, have they determined that the Lord thy God is no longer a jealous God?
If this is indeed what Trans-spirit is, then this is not the Christian faith.

[17] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 12-11-2007 at 03:34 AM • top

Poor Irenaeus—-so much work to do.

[18] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 12-11-2007 at 03:38 AM • top

Intersexual is easily explained, if rather sad. An intersexual person is one who’s sexual characteristics are confused or indeterminate. In other words, either genetically or morphologically sexually confused.

Basically, you’re talking birth defects that relate to physical sexual identity. It’s rather sad, but thankfully a lot of the obvious problems can be corrected through surgery. There tends to be a high squick or ‘ew’ factor amongst the general population as regards to such persons, but in my opinion, there is nothing theologically controversial about, unless you consider clubfeet, harelips and spinal bifida to present theological problems.

Probably more than anyone wished to know about the subject….

I have a blog thingy

[19] Posted by Matthew A (formerly mousestalker) on 12-11-2007 at 05:23 AM • top

I sure do wish someone would unlock the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch and give it a good lob.

ROFL!

“Five is way out.”  smile

[20] Posted by Moot on 12-11-2007 at 06:40 AM • top

Paula: I sincerely doubt it. Mount Paul is pretty much in the Middle Of Nowhere. (Their website is here: http://www.paulist.org/spirit/oakridge.htm). It’s an old Paulist novitiate which has changed from preparing priests, to providing a place for retreats.

Local churches have used their grounds for summer camps, retreats, etc. I’m sincerely surprised to see that the Episcopal Gnostic Death Cult is having such an event there. Perhaps they were a little bit quiet on what exactly they would retreating about. The Diocese of Newark tends to work in that way, which is most likely why the organization is dying.

-j

[21] Posted by jjostm on 12-11-2007 at 08:44 AM • top

I don’t even want to think about the overnight accomodations at a retreat with such an agenda.

[22] Posted by R. Scott Purdy on 12-11-2007 at 08:50 AM • top

I am pretty sure the Paulist Center I am thinking of is up by Boston way.  Sorry about the mix up.  But so many Catholic religious orders are to heresy what a damp dank dirty bathroom is to mold.  And both need a dang good scrubbing, exposure to the light and residents who will take better care of what they have been given.

[23] Posted by Paula Loughlin on 12-11-2007 at 08:55 AM • top

Are they charismatic? I shudder to think of a “laying on of hands” session!
AP+

[24] Posted by Anglican Paplist on 12-11-2007 at 08:58 AM • top

Mainstreaming the carnival sideshow, one parish at a time.

[25] Posted by Jeffersonian on 12-11-2007 at 09:16 AM • top

Anglican Papist,

MY EYES!!!  MY EYES!!!

[26] Posted by Paula Loughlin on 12-11-2007 at 09:28 AM • top

For centuries, we’ve had perfectly good words to describe universal compassion and justice common to the great world religions.  They are universal compassion and justice common to the great world religions.  Why now coin a new word:  Trans-Spirit?  I have become very wary of verbal engineering because it sets the stage for subsequent social engineering (or in the case of the church, theological engineering).
When I reflect on “transreligious, trans-Spirit, trans-spiritual,” I am reminded of the Ape’s words in The Last Battle by CS Lewis:

Tash is Aslan:Aslan is Tash . . . Tashlan

[27] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 12-11-2007 at 09:41 AM • top

““I understand transgender to be an umbrella term for all people who transgress our society’s dominant gender paradigm…”

Yes, society made the us this way. Society… not biology… society is what creates differences in people. Except for those born the way they are. THAT’s biology… but we’re talking about society.

[28] Posted by texex on 12-11-2007 at 11:31 AM • top

texex, stop it.  You’re going to hurt yourself.

[29] Posted by CarolynP on 12-11-2007 at 02:32 PM • top

There are eunichs for the sake of the Kingdom, well, I guess there are now eunichs for the sake of their own missing gonads.  Good luck to them.

Jim of Olym
PS: It sez: Before you post, please remember Matthew 5:43-45:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.”
I don’t hate them, I love them, I have known some of them and I feel really sorry for them, and I do pray for them.

[30] Posted by rdrjames on 12-11-2007 at 03:03 PM • top

CarolynP, thanks for the warning.

[31] Posted by texex on 12-11-2007 at 03:49 PM • top

It seems like a pretty broad list, but at least it appears that animals are still safe, at least for now.

[32] Posted by Jeff Thimsen on 12-11-2007 at 03:59 PM • top

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