Hahwuhs - White House Sends Wiwigious Chwissmas Card!

And of course if he were Muslim, Baba would have fawned all over the Happy Ramadan card.

Well, let’s see ... who said this?

“It is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, and to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in Holy Scripture, and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord. And, insomuch (sic) as we know that by His divine law nations, like individuals, are subjected to punishments and chastisement in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the land may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven; we have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity; we have grown in numbers, wealth and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which has preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us. It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended power, to confess our national sins and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.” [March 30, 1863]

So, Ms. Walters, would you have voted for this guy?

bb

OwwwwOwwwwOwwww!
That was so stupid, it made my brain bleed.
And I can never get back the minute and forty-four seconds that I wasted watching it.
Hmmmph.

Given that I have already admitted to this site that I am intellectually challenged, I’ll say it:
So, what do you all do?
Do you send a religious message Christmas card to people of other faiths?
Or do you pick two cards, one with an overt Christmas message for Christians and a nice bland one for friends and neighbors of other traditions or no religion?
Or, do you only send cards to other Christians?
This year I am only sending Christmas cards to other people of Christian heritage (but not necessarily active faith) and picked a fairly bland one but it does say “Christmas”.

Amen, Baby Blue -

Abraham would be proud.  Of course, he also had values of which Barbara obviously thinks are oblivious to the ordinary course of life.

And ladies and gentlemen the NEXT candidate for presiding bishop!

Deja Vu:

Most people know I’m a devout Christian - therefore, my sending them a religious card is no surprise for them.  They send ‘Happy Holidays’ back and I take no offense - it’s never been an issue.

Of course, Barbara isn’t on my list.  I’m sure she’d be OFFENDED.

You ever get the feeling there is an ocean of stupid out there and we’ve just been swimming in the shallows?

I send out BLATANTLY Christian Christmas cards to everyone except for one friend who is a religious Jew: to them we send a Holiday card.
I am of the opinion that my cards are a witness to our Christian faith. Once a year I am REALLY evangelistic—not so the rest of the time!

What I should have added above was this:
    Hooray for GW Bush!

I always send religious Christmas cards, because the birth of Jesus, SAVIOR OF THE WORLD is what we are celebrating, and I send them to my Christian friends, Jewish and Muslim friends (yes, I do have quite a few.)  I have never received one word of complaint or offense, and in fact, the opposite.
I honestly would not wast the money or time on sending “bland” or secular cards as I don’t send out the cards for any other reason than the fact that it’s….well….CHRISTMAS!

Christopher Hathaway, I am a happily married woman, but if I weren’t I would marry you for your sense of humor alone.

And I agree with drjoan…HOORAY for Bush!
I LOVE the card!
(And very funny impression of Baba Wawa, Greg)

I don’t try to offend anyone on my list.  But I’ve challenged myself lately to be as calm-yet-direct about who I am as my pagan friends are.  So when I send a card, it’s gonna be Christian… especially to my non-Christian friends.  It’s almost a culturally sanctioned way to witness.  Then, I’ll actually send the silly cards to my Christian friends who I know have the Christmas story already figured out.

My favorite card to send to my non-Christian friends says on the front: “For unto you is born this day…” (with a picture of a baby’s footprint) and inside: “A Savior, which is Christ the Lord” (with a picture of a man’s handprint with a large blood drip on the palm.  Kinda in-your-face, but it’s the Gospel in a nutshell.  Which is different that a “small box.” 

I’m a Christian.  It’s what I do.

Barbara Walters was clearly stunned and offended that the President of the United States, “of all the people”, sent her a Christmas card with an overtly religious message.
She didn’t state it clearly, but it seemed to me that she was particularly offended that the card was using a Hebrew scripture as a prophecy of Jesus Christ. This would be particularly offensive to her as a Jew.
She did ask whether Muslims received the same card. I got the impression that she wondering if this card was designed for sending to a Jewish target market with the intention of evangelism.

I for Pete’s Sake, I have gotten a White House Christmas card for the past several years, and it has ALWAYS had a quote from the Old Testament on it, since the Bushes have been in at least.  Every year.

Maybe I need a Babbwa-Engwish Dictionary.  What does “Hahwuhs” in the post title signify?

Deja Vu - You give Ms. Walters too much credit for deep thinking on this topic.  I think she just assumed that the President ought to check his faith at the door, since we have such a pluralistic-melting-pot-hodgepodge-hybridized culture nowadays, and the point seems to be that he/we must spare no pains to make everyone comfortable and happy all the time. 

Didn’t say it was a GOOD assumption.

Why would anyone send a card to a Muslim anyway? You know they’re Muslim and they aren’t celebrating Christmas, so what’s the point? I do send Hanukkah cards to Jewish friends. Our Lord was raised Jewish so I think it’s cool to remember their holiday,

Imagine a religious Christmas card. Who would have thunk!

You alone are the LORD. You made the heavens, even the highest heavens, and all their starry host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You give life to everything, and the multitudes of heaven worship you. Nehemiah 9:6

I am convinced that in this day and age Charles Schultz could not have made Peanuts Christmas special where Linus quotes from Luke.

Well actually, Muslims do believe in the virgin birth and that Jesus was a prophet. So there is some shared beliefs and it makes some sense to send Muslims a Christmas card. In my experience Jews are the most touchy about it, maybe because Jesus was Jewish and Christianity builds from Hebrew scripture.

I agree, Robroy…it is one of our absolute Christmas favorites and we say that all the time:  There’s no way you’d get LInus in the spotlight telling Charlie Brown “what Christmas is all about” by quoting Luke, in this day and time.

One interesting note, if you’re an afficianado of Peanuts, is to notice when Linus steps into the spotlight to deliver those words from Luke he drops his security blanket for the only time, ever in my recollection.  It’s interesting because the blanket is so important to him, especially in this Christmas special (remember he even tells Lucy he may make it into a sportcoat when he grows up). 
It’s a classic show.

I believe hahwuhs is horrors.  I don’t know what the noove is, though.  The language of my glorious Brooklyn ancestors has the word noive which means nerve so that might be what G² is referring to.

I was tempted.  But . . . decided to not waste one minute and 44 seconds of my life listening to those annoying women. 

HeartAfire, great observations about A Charlie Brown Christmas.  I was thinking along those lines earlier today.  Thank goodness some network decided to run that wonderful Peanuts special again this year so that today’s youngsters can see it.  (I remember the first year it aired on TV—I think I was in the first grade.   God bless Linus, and his creator!  And President Bush.  And may God bless (and help) even Babbwa!

Agree with that, robroy. In fact, I’ve read some snide remarks lately made by TV commentators in the press and on the web, saying things to the effect that “A Charlie Brown Christmas” is stuffy and preachy, just not at ALL enlightened for this day and age. It would seem simple enough; Christmas commemorates the birth of Jesus Christ. It gives us a window into the past; as I recall, A Charlie Brown Christmas was first televised in either ‘65 or ‘66, which would have made me 9 or 10. Being completely unchurched, I nevertheless remember being moved when Linus recited from the second chapter of Luke, and also at the end, when the gang joyfully but reverently sang “Hark the Herald Angels Sing.” Even though I didn’t understand the meaning behind it all, I could sense that something of the sacred, something eternally true was being conveyed. It seems that many in this generation sneer at Schultz for being some kind of religious fanatic. If society has changed as much as it has during the last forty years, it makes you wonder whats in store for the next forty, should the Lord tarry.

Cindy T wrote:

My favorite card to send to my non-Christian friends says on the front: “For unto you is born this day…” (with a picture of a baby’s footprint) and inside: “A Savior, which is Christ the Lord” (with a picture of a man’s handprint with a large blood drip on the palm.  Kinda in-your-face, but it’s the Gospel in a nutshell.  Which is different that a “small box.”

Where did you get the card? I am looking for one to send a non-Christian. All the Christian-themed cards I have found so far are only suitable to send to another Christian.

++ABC skipped Advent and said

Christmas, as I see it, is the very beginning of that sense of huge human dignity in all the people around us - and that’s what I think we are celebrating.

“http://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/releases/071212.htm

I like to think that Schulz would absolutely make his Christmas special even today.  If you’ve ever heard his reasons for pushing it at the time I think you understand why.

The question is whether or not a major network would air it.  Not sure about that.

Only Baba Wawa could get her panties in such a bunch, then in the LORD’s sense of humor, His Word was just read to all who listens by an improbably source.

Once again, will tell the story of a Christmas party, in a small manufacturing company owned by a Jewish family.

The foreman of the plant, with some trepidition, asked the “boss”, if he would allow a Christmas party for the employees the last week before Christmas. 

The owner replied, “Of course”, I have no objection, in fact I’ll even provide refreshments”.  The foreman was a bit taken aback.

The owner went on, “Look, if you all want to celebrate the Birthday of a little Jewish boy, why should I object?”

I was there, I heard it, and was truly touched..

Grannie Gloria

You guys and gals have it all mixed up.
What they are sending is

Xmas cards.

...still in the Briar Patch,

kyounge1956 - I’m not sure where I got my cards, probably at a Christian bookstore.  They are made by DaySpring Cards, so maybe some internet searching would turn them up.  I do buy a box whenever I see them, because I think they are so classic—simple and to the point.  I’m running out, so I’ll be looking for more myself.
Merry Christmas!

Yup, I searched DaySpring and found it.  It must have struck a chord with many others because they’ve turned the design into other stuff.  But you can get the boxed cards.  Try this link:
http://store.dayspring-store.com/fohaco.html
Uh, Happy Advent III

I think it’s a great card although I usually pick cards that use a text from the Gospels.  I send it to all my friends, most of who know that I’m a Christian.  After all, Christmas Day is the day when we celebrate the birth of Jesus.  It’s a small witness, but nevertheless a witness to one of the most important days of the year.

Deja Vu,

To my mind, in answer to your question—“Do you send a religious message Christmas card to people of other faiths?”—this is the ideal time to do it.

In my experience people are not upset over your sharing your joy over a Christian day.  They are pleased to be included, even if they don’t believe what the day is all about.  I have even encouraged people to attend Christmas Eve services in order to observe “a cultural experience of another demographic.”  ; > )

When I send cards, I try to send the same card to everyone.  I try to find the most Christian message possible.  I agree with drjoan.  It is a wonderful opportunity to be an evangelist for the mere cost of a stamp.  I have never once had anyone ask that I discontinue sending the card.
Barbara needs to get a real life.  I caught what appeared to be a slur at Elizabeth Hasselhoff but didn’t quite get it.  It was too repulsive of a display for me to waste another 1:44 on.

Jeff in California, I fear that you are not a Southerner.

“Hahwuhs” is a word used by many Southern females to indicate a disgrace of catastrophically large social proportions.

“Hahwuhs!  . . . The woman wore spandex.” 

“Hahwuhs! . . . The debutante ball was an organizational disgrace—there was not a covered walkway for the women and it poured.” 

“Hahwuhs! . . . The list of homes for the annual Civil War Homes Historic Pilgrimage Tour left off the traditional final Sherman-burned ruin at the end of Jeb Stuart Boulevard.”

What this says about Greg Griffith’s ability to channel Southern women is best left “under a veil of secrecy.”

But honestly, I think that Ms. Walters would have used a less Southern version of the same sort of word “Hahwuhs” . . . probably something like “Weally, Dahwling” . . . with a curled lip and raised eyebrow.

I have friends who are, alas, militantly anti-religion. In the past I have sent them secular cards. This year, everybody is getting the same card, I think. (No, they are not all mailed yet…)

Man, I better go out and buy a copy of “A Charley Brown Christmas” before the sucker is banned from public viewing. God grief, indeed.

I meant “good grief”. Freudian slip. Sorry.
AP+

Thanks for the link to dayspring.  I stored it to my list of favorites.  I love it!!!  I wish I had seen it earlier, the Christmas cards are beautiful.

boortz.com had this posted in Nealz news yesterday.

CHRISTMAS RESOLUTION

Yesterday the House voted on a resolution to recognize the importance of Christmas and Christianity in America. Alright Boortz ... big deal. Well I just thought I would point out a bit of hypocrisy.

There were nine Democrats that voted against the Christmas/Christianity resolution. Those representatives were: Rep. Gary Ackerman (N.Y.), Rep. Yvette Clarke (N.Y.), Rep. Diane DeGette (Colo.), Rep. Alcee Hastings (Fla.), Rep. Barbara Lee (Calif.), Rep. Jim McDermott (Wash.), Rep. Robert Scott (Va.), Rep. Pete Stark (Calif.) and Rep. Lynn Woolsey (Calif.).

Now with one exception (Rep. Lee) all of these Democrats voted in favor of the October House resolution to honor Ramadan, a Muslim religious observance day

Number 47 in the series “Why I Detest Barbara Walters”.

the snarkster

Why is “The View” still on the air?  Who watches it and why?

Re: The Christmas resolution.  I live next to Bobby Scott’s district.  I hope this vote prominently figures in the advertising during his next run for office.  I know the guy is a flaming liberal, but this surprised even me.  His district is a predominantly black, gerrymandered one, but I bet his constituents would not approve of this vote.  Bobby’s justification for his vote is here .

I only send overtly Christian cards at Christmas.  Usually one of the three wise me and inside, the inscription, “The wise still seek Him.”  I get them from the NRA.

Three wise MEN!  Darn it, one of these days I’ll learn to proof before hitting “submit”!

I get a kick out of sending Christian Christmas cards to my jewish, muslim, and hindu friends.

It’s the dumbest show around.  I really don’t think she even thought about what she was saying…“I’ve never gotten a religious Christmas card.”  Hello.  If it ain’t religious, it ain’t a Christmas card!

I received a State holiday card from the Kremlin.  Translated, it said my 1942 refrigerator would be ready for me to pick up in six to eight years.  It also mentioned something about each according to his ability, each according to his needs.

I forwarded it to Babba Wawa.  I thought it might cheer her up.

Consider the talent of the program - ABC has to use four women to fill five hours of programming a week. Compare that with the production of people like Oprah, Letterman, Conan or Leno who produce the same amount of content with one quarter the on-air labor. You can go even further and look at the more than 15 hours of radio programming a Limbaugh cranks out. Then you have someone like Sean Hannity that does 15 hours of radio plus another 5 hours of TV with a co-host.

Now, little of what this groups puts out is edifying or something I seek out on a regular basis, but on quantity alone The View must be considered a lagging performer.

Christopher,
I believe “noove” is nerve.

This particular card from the White House is emphasizing the Creator, as BB points out. The Founding Fathers affirmed their belief the Creator. The Jewish faith and the Muslim faith affirm belief in a Creator. To object to these particular verses on the White House Christmas card seems to imply a rejection of a Creator. Barbara Walters really seems to be objecting to religion and an expression of belief in a Creator by the President of the United States.

CJ - “noove” would be Baba Wawa’s unique pronunciation of “noive” - hope this helps…

Twas the month before Christmas
  When all through our land,
  Not a Christian was praying
  Nor taking a stand.

  Why the Politically Correct Police had taken away,
  The reason for Christmas -
  no one could say.
  The children were told by their schools not to sing,
  About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.

  It might hurt people’s feelings,
  the teachers would say,
  December 25th is just a “Holiday.”
  Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit
  Pushing folks down to the floor just to get it!

  CDs from Madonna,
  an X BOX, an I-pod,

  Something was changing, something quite odd!
  Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanzaa,
  In hopes to sell books by Franken and Fonda.

  But as Targets were hanging their trees upside down,
  At Lowe’s the word Christmas, was nowhere to be found.

  At K-Mart and Staples and Penney’s and Sears,
  You won’t hear the word Christmas;
  it won’t touch your ears.

  Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-si-ty
  Are words that were used to intimidate me.
  Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen
  On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton!

  At the top of the Senate,
  there arose such a clatter,
  To eliminate Jesus,
  in all public matters.

  And we spoke not a word,
  as they took away our faith,
  Forbidden to speak
  of salvation and grace.

  The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and discarded.
  The reason for the season,
  stopped before it started.

  So as you celebrate “Winter Break” under your “Dream Tree”,
  Sipping your Starbucks,
  listen to me.

  Choose your words carefully,
  choose what you say -

  Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  not Happy Holiday.
  Our Countries were founded
  under the Christian way,
  To our “guests” I can say,

  If You don’t like it,
  You don’t have to stay!!

Maybe Bahbah would have prefered a more political card, with pictures of Herod waterboarding the Magi to get them to talk.

What I don’t get is why Bush chose a passage from Nehemiah. He should have chosen Jeremiah. Who wouldn’t want to hear from a bullfrog wine connoisseur that likes to sing “Joy to the World”?

I thought it was the Brooklyn word noive.  Thanks a lot.

Obviously, a Christmas card should be about Christ.  But hearing the commentary on how truly horrible an OT quote, which doesn’t even mention Christ, is - well, you just can’t make this stuff up. 

Bush sent out a card that is acceptable to a majority of Americans (Christian and Jewish) based on a Christian tradition (we won’t even touch the marketing by the greeting card industry). 

Would it have been more acceptible if it had a sleigh and eight tiny reindeer?  Because the tree and Santa are religious figures, too.  Maybe her point was that no card should been sent out.  If we were the White House, we’d strike her off the list.  (Santa, are you listening?)

Dear Christopher Hathaway,

You wrote

You ever get the feeling there is an ocean of stupid out there and we’ve just been swimming in the shallows?

You seem to be having difficulty in getting the right metaphor and also to be having a spot of trouble orienting yourself as to who is in which part. Please allow me to help orient you.

First, it is not an ocean, it is actually a pool. And, you have also got your regimes backwards. It is the gene pool that those people are “swimming” in and they have all been generally swimming in the shallow end.

Blessings and regards,
Martial Artist