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OPEN THREAD: What Were the Most Outrageous Episcopal Stories of 2007?

Friday, December 28, 2007 • 8:22 am


You know the ones I'm talking about: Those things that make you sit back, shake your head, and wonder if this church can descend any further into parody and farce. List them here and I'll tally them up. Tempting as it is, try not to editorialize on your suggestion(s). Just make your entry, and provide a link if you can.
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[1] Posted by RLundy on 12-28-2007 at 08:28 AM • top
[2] Posted by RLundy on 12-28-2007 at 08:29 AM • top

“That doesn’t happen. Not in my diocese with my permission.” +Bruno

[3] Posted by Br_er Rabbit on 12-28-2007 at 08:30 AM • top

“I accept.”
Katharine Jefferts Schori, when Dr Williams asked her regarding her response to the Communique at the Primates Meeting in Tanzania Feb 2007

[4] Posted by augustin on 12-28-2007 at 08:44 AM • top

I think the “June Bride” flap at Nova Southeast ought to be up there.

[5] Posted by Chris Molter on 12-28-2007 at 08:52 AM • top

This has to be in the top ten
<a href= “http://www.livingchurch.org/news/news-updates/2007/3/27/new-york-cathedral-transformed-for-elton-johns-birthday-party”> http://www.livingchurch.org/news/news-updates/2007/3/27/new-york-cathedral-transformed-for-elton-johns-birthday-party </a>

[6] Posted by revrj on 12-28-2007 at 08:53 AM • top

Elizabeth Kaeton suggesting Anne Kennedy is one child’s temper tantrum away from mass murder.

[7] Posted by Nasty, Brutish & Short on 12-28-2007 at 09:02 AM • top

Easily the Report of the Communion Sub-Group issued to the Primates at Dar es Salaam and brokered by Rowan Williams, which attempted to get “on the table” that ECUSA really had complied with the Windsor Report’s three requests, and thankfully not accepted by the Primates.
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2169/

[8] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 09:02 AM • top

Sarah’s post at SF “Bishop Andrus—How Could You? [Content Warning]”
Bishop Andrus—How Could You?

[9] Posted by AnglicanViaKenya on 12-28-2007 at 09:22 AM • top

+Mark Andrus in the SF liscentiousness parade

[10] Posted by Matt Kennedy on 12-28-2007 at 09:23 AM • top

I hate to say this, because I pray for the man daily, but the most outrageous story of 2007 was really a non-story.  The primates of the Communion, in council, issued a communique directing the establishment of a Pastoral Council.  The Archbishop of Canterbury reneged on his responsibility to name the members of the council and in so doing, gave the Episcopal HoB the power to veto decisionsof the primates of the Communion, just as he had previously allowed them to veto Lambeth 1.10 within the boundaries of their jurisdiction.  By demonstrating to the world that the tail can indeed wag the dog, he has threatened the very existance of the Communion itself.

[11] Posted by tjmcmahon on 12-28-2007 at 09:41 AM • top

South Carolina bishop election declared “null and void”—first time in 70 years:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2565/

Followed closely by the list of dioceses which did not consent to the consecration of Bishop Lawrence:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2578/

[12] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 09:41 AM • top

Oops, I misread the opening remarks before posting.  What I posted is a tragedy.  For parody and farce, I think bp. Andrus parade appearance would be a tie with the announcement that we will have a June bride among the HoB.  The second I find especially shocking- a clergyman being married in a civil ceremony- what is this church coming to?

[13] Posted by tjmcmahon on 12-28-2007 at 09:45 AM • top

Former Iranian President Khatami allowed to use the Washington National Cathedral pulpit to publicize his version of “world peace”:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/2006/iran-060908-rferl01.htm
—without being confronted with the substantial evidence that his “peace” would sacrifice an Israeli homeland:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/zionist-entity.htm
—without request that he apologize for Iranian human rights abuses (unlike the Harvard College Democrats, who wanted to hold Khatami accountable for his actions as President):
http://www.harvarddems.com/files/Khatami_statement.pdf
http://www.hrw.org/worldreport99/mideast/iran.html

[14] Posted by DayByDaySue on 12-28-2007 at 09:50 AM • top

In the spirit of this thread, might I suggest you open a New Year’s thread on predictions for the most outrageous story of 2008?  At the end of the year, you could give a “Iker for PB” campaign button for teh wildest accurate prediction.

[15] Posted by tjmcmahon on 12-28-2007 at 09:51 AM • top

McGreevy goes to GTS, wants to become Episcopal priest:

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2914/

[16] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 09:57 AM • top

I’d have to agree with the initial non-confirmation of Mark Lawrence. Especially in light of what developed in terms of past practice as well as the comments by those who voted for Bishop Robinson’s confirmation.

[17] Posted by Matthew A (formerly mousestalker) on 12-28-2007 at 09:58 AM • top

KJS appealing to the “ancient customs of the church” to Archbishop Akinola:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2911/

[18] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 10:01 AM • top

Bishop Andrus in the rear seat of an open convertible participating in the gay pride parade in San Francisco.  (This became the “bottom of the pit” story for me when I clicked on the link later offered on SFIF to gay pride day and then realized what really goes on…..shall we say, after the parade is over. Sometimes, it is better to heed the warning and remain naive.)

[19] Posted by Petra on 12-28-2007 at 10:05 AM • top

South Carolina election voided due to “canonical deficiencies” in responses
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/79901_83796_ENG_HTM.htm

[20] Posted by Piedmont on 12-28-2007 at 10:14 AM • top

The early invitations to Lambeth from the ABC:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/3039/

[21] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 10:14 AM • top

The abject failure of the Panel of Reference:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/1996/

The Episcopal Diocese of Minnesota inviting a convicted child sex offender to serve as retreat leader at its retreat house:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2054/

The HOB’s rejection of the Dar communique, including the lengthy and “feeling our oats” histrionic “statement” which I expect will be read for a long long time to come as pretty representative of early 21st century ECUSA:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2607/

Bishop of Maryland stamps foot at Archbishop of Ghana, says can’t come to his party:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2250/

Kenneth Kearon caught doing what we all already knew he was doing—conspiring and scheming with a favorite ally, Louie Crew:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/1959/

[22] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 10:28 AM • top

Wow…what a target-rich environment.

Top: Marc Andrus’s leatherboi parade.

Runner-up: Mark Lawrence’s rejection

[23] Posted by Jeffersonian on 12-28-2007 at 10:30 AM • top

comment deleted—commenter banned for willful abuse of blog; the progressives still haven’t apparently set up their own blog to promote whatever stories they wish

[24] Posted by phylmom on 12-28-2007 at 10:38 AM • top

The Virginia lawsuits fueled by Peter Lee’s lies.

Intercessor

[25] Posted by Intercessor on 12-28-2007 at 10:40 AM • top

Thread hijack alert….
Intercessor

[Intercessor - got it… G]

[26] Posted by Intercessor on 12-28-2007 at 10:42 AM • top

Greg stays in Room 815 at Windsor Hotel.

[27] Posted by Piedmont on 12-28-2007 at 11:23 AM • top

The complete capitulation and folding of the group formerly known as the Windsor Bishops at the New Orleans HOB meeting, in which they issued no minority report and almost to a man failed to vote nay to the awful HOB response to Dar:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/6358/

Bishop Bruno’s Brass-Faced Blandishments to reporters, helpfully captured on video for all the Anglican world to see:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/6294/
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/6295/

[28] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 11:27 AM • top

The unfortunate necessity of removing Greg from his leadership position at Stand Firm by SFAWBC.  And the complete lack of progress made by his counselors.  It is too tragic for words.

carl

[29] Posted by carl on 12-28-2007 at 11:51 AM • top

Ahhhhh!  There are just too many way too outrageous stories.  Way too many.  When did we cross the “no publicity is bad publicity” line?  It really is one outrage after another.  For my part, a bishop in the “licentiousness parade”, as Matt called it is the most outrageous.  I’d love to hijack diocesan convention, like when we’re being left-hooked to death with global warming, and get that horrible clip up front and center for all to see.  As if “we” are the problem.  That may be the most outrageous thing of all, i.e., that “we” are the problem.  (Ahab v. Elijah all over again).  As I said, there are just too many stories.  I have to go hurl now.

[30] Posted by Theron Walker✙ on 12-28-2007 at 11:57 AM • top

Rev. Fowler of RCRC proclaiming her abortion as religious freedom.

[31] Posted by Dr. N. on 12-28-2007 at 11:58 AM • top

—The farcical attempts at the “secret” gay communion service, including another attempt at a “Bruno Beguilement” . . .

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/8008/
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/8009/

—The letter of “encouragement” that KJS wrote Bishop Schofield:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/8114/

—The Diocese of Atlanta invites everyone to gay pride parade:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/3802/

—Suprise, surprise, surprise, the discovery that the diocese of Virginia violated the canons in their bishop election—and nothing was done about it:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/4580/
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/4634/

[32] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 12:08 PM • top

I think Bp Andrus at the parade is right up there, as well as the Islamo-Palian priest, but it seems for true long-lasting shock value, Bp Lee’s about-face regarding the Virginia parishes has to be number one. “Let your Yes be Yes…”

[33] Posted by DavidSh on 12-28-2007 at 12:20 PM • top

No one’s mentioned Louie’s website or the Clown Eucharist, or perhaps +VGR’s outrage in NOLA to +Rowan.

[34] Posted by DaveB in VT on 12-28-2007 at 01:26 PM • top

“Elizabeth Kaeton suggesting Anne Kennedy is one child’s temper tantrum away from mass murder”—-NB&S;Not to speak of so many revisionist bloggers’ silence about Kaeton’s calumnies and threats.

[35] Posted by Irenaeus on 12-28-2007 at 01:31 PM • top

Kenneth Kearon’s New Orleans dirty-work: helping ECUSA massage its defiance-as-compliance verbiage just enough to get a Lambeth committee’s seal of approval.

[36] Posted by Irenaeus on 12-28-2007 at 01:37 PM • top

Spong’s absurd, whining, petulant letter to ++Williams.

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/5630

[37] Posted by selah on 12-28-2007 at 02:03 PM • top

I would also include with Sarah Hey’s links to the Bruno Beguilements, the Susan Russell blog post that explained why it was technically correct the Bishop Bruno wasn’t actually authorizing the same sex blessing that he permitted to be publicly preformed in his diocese.

[38] Posted by Deja Vu on 12-28-2007 at 02:05 PM • top

The vetting of candidates for the Executive Council through Louie Crew.

[39] Posted by Piedmont on 12-28-2007 at 02:15 PM • top

Links, people! We need links!

[40] Posted by Greg Griffith on 12-28-2007 at 02:24 PM • top

I would like to receive an award for having supplied the most links and ideas. 

Humbly,

Sarah

[41] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 02:34 PM • top

Many have already mentioned the Anne Holmes Redding (Muslim priest) story which first broke in the diocese of Olympia diocesan paper.

Don’t think anyone has mentioned another absolutely shocking diocesan newspaper story.  Remember Northern Michigan’s so-called “response to the Primates” and it’s declaration that we ALL are Christ?

We seek and serve Christ in all persons because all persons are the living Christ. Each and every human being, as a human being, is knit together in God’s Spirit, and thus an anointed one – Christ.

[42] Posted by Karen B. on 12-28-2007 at 02:37 PM • top

Sarah has enough links to make a chain.  She’s just an iron ball away from implementing her coup d’état at the secret volcano lair. grin

[43] Posted by Piedmont on 12-28-2007 at 02:44 PM • top

Ah, I forgot about one aspect of the Anne Holmes Redding story.  Jim Naughton’s blatant attempt to get the whole thing swept under the rug.
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/3831

[44] Posted by Karen B. on 12-28-2007 at 02:45 PM • top

Well, my idea to supplement Sarah’s is from Susan Russell’s October Archive and the link is for the whole month,
http://inchatatime.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html
but the paragraph is in the post on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 titled “Hook, Line & Sinker ...”

As for Bishop Bruno, as noted (repeatedly and appearing to fall on very deaf ears indeed!) in the Diocese of Los Angeles presbyters need not ask for permission to provide appropriate pastoral care to members of their parish—and offering prayers for the blessing of their already blessed by God unions is understood to fall within the parameters of such appropriate pastoral care. (A policy quoted in The Living Church so you KNOW it must be true!)

The event was a “Blessing of Union and Holy Eucharist” to be held at
All Saints Church Pasadena, CA
http://jerryandbruno.com/index.php

[45] Posted by Deja Vu on 12-28-2007 at 02:51 PM • top

How about the shennanigans of the Bennigan boyz?

[46] Posted by DaveG on 12-28-2007 at 02:52 PM • top

I would like to receive an award for having supplied the most links and ideas. 
Humbly,

Sarah

I concur…simply a command performance!
In recognition of this achievement and in keeping in spirit with this thread please accept your award as follows:
http://www.episcopalbookstore.com/product.asp_Q_crit_E_2459#1

Intercessor

[47] Posted by Intercessor on 12-28-2007 at 02:55 PM • top

Bishop Lee renegs on agreed protocal to govern departures of parishes.

[48] Posted by DaveG on 12-28-2007 at 03:00 PM • top

“Abortion as a Moral Choice” by Rev. Anne Fowler.
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2007/12/06/abortion-as-a-moral-choice

[49] Posted by Dr. N. on 12-28-2007 at 03:01 PM • top

Ok, one more from me.  I wasn’t sure initially whether this was in 2007, but I checked, and yes, it was in January.

KJS’ interview with the Arkansas Democrat Gazette and her on the record denial of John 14:6

ADG: What about the rest of that statement –

KJS: The small box?

ADG: Well, the rest of the verse, that no one comes to the Father except by the son.

KJS: Again in its narrow construction, it tends to eliminate other possibilities. In its broader construction, yes, human beings come to relationship with God largely through their experience of holiness in other human beings. Through seeing God at work in other people’s lives. In that sense, yes, I will affirm that statement. But not in the narrow sense, that people can only come to relationship with God through consciously believing in Jesus.

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/1849

[50] Posted by Karen B. on 12-28-2007 at 03:12 PM • top

+Spence Niagara assenting to SSB’s.

Now why is this especially bad?
Three years before, Niagara synod voted for SSBs, and +Ralph withheld his consent, saying, reasonably enough, that he had an obligation to the wider church and wanted to consult with it.

So….........

In the intervening three years, the Global South made it clear that this type of thing was a potential communion-breaking issue, and General Synod 2007 voted down the motion approving SSBs.

One might think that the outcome of +Ralph’s discernment process would be fairly clear: there is no consensus approving SSBs.  So you would expect that +Ralph would again withhold consent when Niagara Synod voted for a resolution approving SSBs.

But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO….

+Spence gave his approval, citing as the deciding factor the just-made decisions of Ottawa Synod and Montreal Synod saying that their resolutions had forced the issue.

See,  I don’t think Ralph Spence is a liar. As far as I can tell, +Ralph is a (basically) honest person and good Christian.  The problem is that he sees no need to be consistent in his statements.  The pro-homosexual lobby, deeply embedded in Niagara’s Hamilton Cathedral and bureaucracy, operates under the principle:  “What’s mine is mine; what’s yours is negotiable.”  So it is impossible for orthodox to stay there in honesty and truth, because, aside from the issues we lose, today’s defeat of SSBs (in GS), or disapproval of Moloch worship, or disapproval of liturgical pole-dancing, is never final.  If a liberal resolution is defeted by 50 votes today, that is not a decision on the issue, but the beginning of a campaign to turn 25 people around or otherwise gather support for the same resolution 3 years down the round.

The orthodox are like the soldiers fighting the invading soldiers on the beach.  You fight hard, fire eveything you’ve got, and find that not only are they still coming, but paratroopers have landed behind your lines and are mowing you down as you retreat.  We then wait for orders telling us to regroup ourselves from headquarters, get no such reply,  and find while retreating that headquarters was abandoned long agoo.

No punchline; that’s it.

[51] Posted by Toral1 on 12-28-2007 at 03:42 PM • top

Mods: I missed the shortness guideline, didn’t read it before I posted.  Cut my above post in half (for by two-thirdss) and delete this one.

Tx.

[52] Posted by Toral1 on 12-28-2007 at 03:46 PM • top

Gerald Ford’s priest using his homily at the Natty Cat to bring up the Late Unpleasantness, and telling us (what he said) was the dead man’s opinions on said Unpleasantness. 

Also: Has any one else noticed that the list of Outrageous Episcopal Stories of 2007 is now twice as long as the list of Encouraging ones?

[53] Posted by Nasty, Brutish & Short on 12-28-2007 at 04:06 PM • top

How about posting the MDG’s above the altar in the place of the cross?

[54] Posted by Maxwell on 12-28-2007 at 04:31 PM • top

In the whole realm of eternity this surely isn’t the most outrageous and I’m not sure if it happened in ‘07, but there was when VGR listed his colonoscopy in the Diocesan rag….I wanted to pretend I wasn’t from NH!

[55] Posted by no longer NH Episcopalian on 12-28-2007 at 04:47 PM • top

$60,000 allocated for the three apostate bishops to travel accross the pond to tug at RW’s sleeve on behalf of the VGR agenda.
Intercessor

[56] Posted by Intercessor on 12-28-2007 at 04:52 PM • top

Jeffrey Steenson’s brutal public dressing down at the hands of David Beers and his thuggie bishop cronies at the Place of Disgrace in New Orleans.

[57] Posted by Intercessor on 12-28-2007 at 05:07 PM • top

Two words: Episcopal Visitors
Intercessor

[58] Posted by Intercessor on 12-28-2007 at 05:10 PM • top

[55] Posted by no longer NH Episcopalian. Was that to get his marriage license?

[59] Posted by Dr. N. on 12-28-2007 at 05:14 PM • top

No longer NH Episcopalian-

Is there no “end” to that man’s shenanigans?  No doubt we will now have to “flush” this vision from our memories.

And if his colonoscopy was like mine, he wouldn’t have remembered a thing anyway.

[60] Posted by bigjimintx on 12-28-2007 at 05:44 PM • top

Ahem… Can we please post more outrages, and refrain from making snide comments about VGR’s intestines?

[61] Posted by Greg Griffith on 12-28-2007 at 05:51 PM • top

Well, they are an “out”-rage of TEC. Ah, the Devil is active in this thread.

[62] Posted by Dr. N. on 12-28-2007 at 05:56 PM • top

Good Lord!  Did all this really happen in 2007?  This is like a hyperbolic mathematical function.  Within a couple of years at this rate there will not be enough blog-space in the universe to report all the Outrages…...life as we know it may come to an end.  Is this the strategy for TEC domination?  To hog all available blog space?

[63] Posted by Capt. Deacon Warren on 12-28-2007 at 06:09 PM • top

Like Luther’s 95 theses, these should be included as an Appendix to the GAFCON Proceedings. The 95 Outrages of 2007

[64] Posted by Dr. N. on 12-28-2007 at 06:16 PM • top

No one has mentioned the Buddhist monks erecting mandelas in the sanctuary of Trinity Cathedral, Sacramento:

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/8199

or the astrology workshop in Seattle

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/8120

or the Trans-sexual, Trans-spiritual Retreat in Oak Ridge N.J:

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/8289

I guess there are too many other things to discuss….

[65] Posted by selah on 12-28-2007 at 06:26 PM • top

The continuing embarrassing saga of +KJS Christmas messages - 2006 & 2007.

[66] Posted by DaveB in VT on 12-28-2007 at 06:39 PM • top

Wow!  Where to start.  I love the stories about the Bishop of Pennsylvania and his druid priest and priestess,  his bankrupting of the diocese, his refusal to resign,  the setting up of a shadow standing committee, I guess this all occured in 2007 in Episcopalian time.  The beat goes on. 
I also loved the Presiding Heretic’s tie dyed vestments.  All that would have been needed to make it the top of the list was the statue of Buddha and hymn to Giah, and lesbians wafting incense to Sophia.  Folks if the orthodox wrote an agenda for the revisionist to do all these outrages they would cry out at the unfairness of us. 
At least TEC still serves the Body of Christ providing illustrations of idocy, and warnings to the faithful as well as sermon illustrations and jokes.
Opps, forgot and editorialized,  just couldn’t help it.  Just don’t read the above.  Cheers and Happy New Year

[67] Posted by PROPHET MICAIAH on 12-28-2007 at 07:00 PM • top

Was Pat and Kate’s Amazing Race and TV kiss mentioned?

[68] Posted by Dr. N. on 12-28-2007 at 07:05 PM • top

Much worse than Ann Holmes Reddings bizarre declaration that she is “both Christian and Muslim” was the response by her Bishop, Vincent Warner, gushing about how excited he was about “the interfaith possibilities” of such an unholy merger; about what a woman of integrity Ann was (apparently, it takes a lot of integrity to violate the Oath of Conformity taken at your’ ordination, made before your church, your bishop, and God), and what a “natural bridge builder” Ann was. The “bridge builder” remark was, no doubt, made in reference to her lovely statement: “To walk into Al-Islam and be reminded that there are more people of color in the world than white people, that in itself is a relief,” she said. Hey, with bridge builders like Ann…..

[69] Posted by Bob K. on 12-28-2007 at 07:56 PM • top

How can you pick a winner out of this plethora of farce and outrage?  I keep coming back to Andrus riding in the SF Gay Pride parade and Bruno telling his bald-faced lies about SSBs.  And that got me thinking about the ABC, with a straight face, telling the world in NOLA that September 30 was not a deadline.

But the targets are so big and so many.  Feel like a kid in a candy shop.

[70] Posted by hanks on 12-28-2007 at 08:00 PM • top

#59 - I am speechless and ROFL!!!!!!

[71] Posted by no longer NH Episcopalian on 12-28-2007 at 08:28 PM • top

Interesting that not one of the revisionistas has posted on this particular thread.  Maybe, at long last, they are experiencing some embarrassment!

[72] Posted by no longer NH Episcopalian on 12-28-2007 at 08:32 PM • top

Most ridiculous story—The largest parish is Tucson, AZ avoiding the word ‘Lord’ because of its connotations of power.
Most subtly malevolent idea—Some Windsor bishops and others, after the New Orleans meeting, saying we are called to be a church of two minds and one heart.  (We are called to have the mind of Christ.  That’s one mind, not two.)

[73] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 12-28-2007 at 08:56 PM • top

Ref #14:  I concur.  “Make it so.”  (Jean-Luc Picard)

[74] Posted by CNightingale on 12-28-2007 at 09:11 PM • top

Sooooooooooooooo many from which to choose.  But some shine brigher than others - let’s see there’s

Episcopalians are smarter than Catholics  Okay technically that one was the end of 2006 but really it deserves a highlight.

How about . Andrew Smith being appointed to serve on the trial court of another bishop - while charges were pending against Smith? 

Then there’s the gay indoctrination gag by the School Board.

Oh my. Such awful memories does bring on indigestion.

[75] Posted by JackieB on 12-28-2007 at 09:25 PM • top

Most gag-worthy:
Bishop Andrus in his purple SATIN shirt at the gay pride parade.

[77] Posted by Edwin on 12-28-2007 at 09:42 PM • top

RE: “Maybe, at long last, they are experiencing some embarrassment!”

No chance of that . . . one of ‘em came over to this thread—as with so so so many others in the past week—and tried to hawk some sort of story they’re trying to get some attention to . . .

[79] Posted by Sarah on 12-28-2007 at 10:12 PM • top

Sarah, it is obvious from the Marc Andrus Parade that embarrasment is an emotion they have erased from their consciences.

(on leave from the Briar Patch),

[80] Posted by Br_er Rabbit on 12-28-2007 at 10:28 PM • top

“Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct?
  No, they have no shame at all;
  they do not even know how to blush…” (Jeremiah 6:15)

[81] Posted by Bob K. on 12-28-2007 at 10:36 PM • top

“Abortion as a Moral Choice” by the Rev. Anne Fowler.
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/8464

At another point, a few years later, I did have an abortion. I was a single mother, working and pursuing a path to ordination in the Episcopal Church. The potential father was not someone I would have married; he would have been no better a candidate for fatherhood than my daughter’s absent father. The timing was wrong, the man was wrong, and I easily, though not happily, made the decision to terminate the pregnancy.

If TEC could ordain such a candidate for “HOLY orders” in 1985/86, it is no wonder we are where we are in 2007.

[82] Posted by ToAllTheWorld on 12-28-2007 at 10:50 PM • top

As far as I can tell, NOBODY has topped #50 yet…

I cannot count the number of times that I have been told by people who are, more or less, on the orthodox side of things, that I should NOT refer to the PB as a “heretic” or as a “sub-christian gnostic.”

When this thread finally ends, would it be possible for somebody to edit a compilation of all of the outrages cited, minus the (at times very incisive and humorous) commentary? Just a simple list of outrages—maybe in chronological order, since there is no way we can ever organize them into a hierarchy of hideous things going on in TEC—along with notes regarding sources, etc. ?

In my opinion, this catalogue of spiritual atrocities SHOULD be sent to MANY people—both inside and outside of the Anglican fold—to document SOME of the things that are going on.

[83] Posted by bluenarrative on 12-28-2007 at 11:01 PM • top

re:#42

Don’t think anyone has mentioned another absolutely shocking diocesan newspaper story.  Remember Northern Michigan’s so-called “response to the Primates” and it’s declaration that we ALL are Christ?

We seek and serve Christ in all persons because all persons are the living Christ. Each and every human being, as a human being, is knit together in God’s Spirit, and thus an anointed one – Christ.

  As I now live in said diocese, I was thinking of including this (I frequently comment on it here and on other sites).  However, at the top of the page Greg specifically asked for Anglican and Episcopal stories.  I think we can all agree that whatever the diocese of Northern Michigan is, it is not either Anglican or Episcopalian, since the “affirmations” amount to outright denials of the creeds.  Of course, I suppose that would eliminate a good 50-70 dioceses at this point, so maybe we need to be lenient on the point.

[84] Posted by tjmcmahon on 12-28-2007 at 11:16 PM • top

DaveB in Vt,  The “Clown Eucharist” is old news—I first encountered this bizarre and patently offensive sub-christian rite way back in the late 80’s. I was on a retreat being held in a monastery and the priest running the event (a very nice guy, by the way, and somebody who was not completely devoid of any Christian sensibilities, though he was seriously impaired spiritually by too much time spent in the Diocese of New York under the episcopal oversight of Paul Moore), assisted by two other priests, decided to SURPRISE us with this awful thing… I think that almost everybody apart from the “celebrants” was appalled. Many of us fled the chapel, feeling defiled and horrified… Yet, apparently, this thing (the “Clown Eucharist”) just won’t go away… Lord, have mercy on ALL of us.

[85] Posted by bluenarrative on 12-28-2007 at 11:52 PM • top

[comment deleted—commenter banned for willful abuse of blog; the progressives still haven’t apparently set up their own blog to promote whatever stories they wish]

[86] Posted by John B. Chilton on 12-29-2007 at 04:05 AM • top

Ah, good. The reappraisers awaken.

(on leave from the Briar Patch),

[87] Posted by Br_er Rabbit on 12-29-2007 at 06:05 AM • top

That the Windsor Process is a good faith attempt to mend rent fabric.

[88] Posted by Sparky on 12-29-2007 at 06:29 AM • top

I would like to nominate +KJS great epistle to +Akinola, grammer etc.  intact, to include +KJS not sending it to +Akinola but publishinig it in ENS.  +Akinola’s reply just added further outrage!

[89] Posted by Dave B on 12-29-2007 at 06:35 AM • top

This is almost completely OT but I thought it would provide some nice levity here, in the midst of some very sad stories.  About 15 years ago ou r youth group at our Episcopal Church at the time put on a lovely, innocuous dinner theatre and the play was suitable and about faith.  The priest, a lovely man, had gotten a wholesale deal on the final course of the Chinese-themed dinner:  fortune cookies.  Problem was, he did not know they were X-rated fortunes.  Completely obscene.  Mine advised me to do some very interesting things to the person to my left. 

This still brings a laugh to our family suppers when we remember the event.

[90] Posted by GoodMissMurphy on 12-29-2007 at 07:36 AM • top

Elizabeth Kaeton blithely announcing on her website that she intends to perform “blessing” ceremonies for shacked-up unmarried straight couples as well as for gays.  And her bishop (surprise!) not taking any disciplinary action.

[91] Posted by st. anonymous on 12-29-2007 at 08:18 AM • top

I got two. I have kept thinking about things to add and I find that people (mostly Sarah Hey, dawgon’it) have already mentioned them.

Father Armstrong getting a pie thrown at him:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/2957

Ephraim Radner’s treatment at the HoB meeting in March and the betrayal at the last minute by Katherine Greib (who apparently had been plotting the betrayal for some time with 815).

Katherine Jefferts Schori correcting Rowan Williams grammar with her infamous “[sic]” (Couldn’t find the link. Perhaps Sarah can. Then she can get credit for this one, too.)

“Two Gay Episcopal Priests Joined In Ceremony Officiated by Two Episcopal Priests”
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/3198
(The combined ASA of both parishes of the happy couple was less than a 100.)

[92] Posted by robroy on 12-29-2007 at 08:28 AM • top

Very Disheartening Award:
From Archbishop of Canterbury—Sept 30th is only a suggestion, not a deadline.
jane, Edwin’s wife

[93] Posted by Edwin on 12-29-2007 at 10:04 AM • top

Worst:
Wicked Witch of The East Award: Lizzi Kaeton’s attack on Matt’s wife
Best:
Heart Jumps With Joy Award:  GAFCON

[94] Posted by teddy mak on 12-29-2007 at 11:19 AM • top

I dunno - it’s all insane to me now, especially with the supposed ruckus in SJ this past week at one of the missions - - anybody have info from “this side of the fence”???

[95] Posted by Opie56 on 12-29-2007 at 11:20 AM • top

Jane, since Sarah is getting most of the credit here, I’d like it known that I was first with the ABC’s claim that September 30th was not a deadline (see #70).

Seriously, here are two links (thanks to Baby Blue) on You Tube.  In the first (starting at about the 1:00 minute point) he talks about Dar es Salaam not having set an “ultimatum.”  In the second (starting at about the 4:40 minute point) he answers a question from the NY Times reporter relevant to the “deadline” of September 30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEy1qIpd1ws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuBZagqmtjM&feature=related

By the way, Greg, I thought bluenarrative (#83) had a great idea about putting all these horrors together in a comprehensive list.  So what are you doing New Years’ Eve?

[96] Posted by hanks on 12-29-2007 at 11:30 AM • top

That TEC and its representatives sued individual vestry members of churches in Virginia and Colorado…and then in Colorado the Episcopal Bishop wrote an extortion letter to vestry members trying to turn them from their principled theological stance…oh, see how they love one another…could TEC any more diminish its witness?

http://graceepiscopalcolosprings.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/firstamendedanswercounterclaimsanda01106854.pdf

http://graceepiscopalcolosprings.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/letter_from_bishop_to_cana.pdf

[97] Posted by Don Armstrong on 12-29-2007 at 11:48 AM • top

I agree with bluenarrative #83 and hanks #96 so much that I volunteer to assist.

[98] Posted by Deja Vu on 12-29-2007 at 12:00 PM • top

The final few words in this You Tube item from KJS in the last press conference at NOLA—“at the foot of the cross”—are absolutely bizarre in their context.  Only by listening does that come across.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BchMvduifo&feature=related

[99] Posted by hanks on 12-29-2007 at 12:16 PM • top

Not just listening but watching the look on KJS face as she says it!

[100] Posted by cramner on 12-29-2007 at 12:24 PM • top

Hanks, what a great video! Did that look like a smirk as she said “at the foot of the cross”?
What I noticed was the peculiar way she picked up the document with her thumb and forefinger of one hand. She did that twice. It looked like something she didn’t want to touch. If it were a sincere sacrificial offering, as she claimed, the body language would be to lift it with all the fingers and the palms of both hands.

[101] Posted by Deja Vu on 12-29-2007 at 12:34 PM • top

The smirk, the fingers, the shoulders! All the body language there is an entire conference.

[102] Posted by augustin on 12-29-2007 at 12:37 PM • top

No. 7 is correct; the absolute worst event, IMHO, was the ABC’s duplicitous and dishonest use of the duplicitous and dishonest “report” of the Subgroup of the JSC of the ACC, just in advance of the Primates’ meeting in Dar es Salaam.  That dishonest “report”- finding that TEC had substantially complied with Windsor - is proof positive, if any additional proof were needed, that the ABC and his minions will never discipline the TEC – never, never.  The ABC will continue to yammer on at Lambeth 2008 and beyond, while the orthodox of the TEC slowly melt away.  The ABC’s participation in the preparation and use of that patently dishonest “report” shows, beyond doubt, that the ABC is also dishonest and will stoop to any level to save the Communion.  I know that I am bitter about the ABC’s dishonesty, but I had naively hoped, against hope, that as ABC he would do something at Dar and thereafter.
Moreover, the JSC gambit was used again by the ABC and KJS to buffer the HOB’s non-response to the Primates’ demands and deadlines – which demands and deadlines the ABC was at great pains to tell us were, in fact, not demands or deadlines at all.  The ABC is, based upon his above referenced dishonesty, truly contemptible, and it is beyond foolish for the orthodox to waste anymore time in meetings, subgroups, or mediations, run by, or directed by, the ABC, including Lambeth 2008, which the terminally deluded are now heralding as the time, yes really the time, when action will be taken.
Of course, KJS and crew provided an avalanche of low lights, and buffoonery, most of which have been noted above; however, the ABC’s abandonment of the orthodox in the TEC is the most troubling to me – even when he had been fluffed up and bucked up at Dar by the Primates.

[103] Posted by EastTexAnglican on 12-29-2007 at 01:10 PM • top

[comment deleted—please do not use the blog to tout stories for which revisionists have their own blogs]

An additional note added to this deletion: Grace, this is your one warning.  No further warnings will be given you on this or any other thread.

Your statement that you wanted to discuss an alternate story—and then announcing you were leaving for several days—is somewhat obvious, don’t you think? 

We’re on a no-warning, immediate ban policy regarding this issue, as we have clearly and repeatedly explained the policy, and as revisionists have repeatedly and deliberately violated this policy by using our blog-space to attempt to promote whatever various humdrum stories they are touting. 

We have made an exception for you, and offered this warning and explanation—all of which, you already know.  And so your deliberate violation of commenter policy is disappointing.  If you have further questions, please feel free to privately email a blogger.

[104] Posted by Grace17033 on 12-29-2007 at 01:36 PM • top

I’m closing this thread now. Deja Vu has volunteered to go through the whole thing, arranging the stories in chronological order, with links. We’ll then post it as a Feature, probably Wednesday or Thursday.

Thanks - I think tongue laugh - to everyone who offered suggestions!

[105] Posted by Greg Griffith on 12-29-2007 at 07:34 PM • top

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