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Monday, January 21, 2008 • 5:01 pm


A senior Iranian lawmaker warned the Netherlands on Monday not to allow the screening of what it called an anti-Islamic film produced by Dutch politician, claiming it "reflects insulting views about the Holy Koran."

Alaeddin Boroujerdi, head of the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Commission, promised widespread protests and a review of Iran's relationship with the Netherlands if Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders' work is shown.

"If Holland will allow the broadcast of this movie, the Iranian parliament will request to reconsider our relationship with it," Boroujerdi said, according to IRNA, the official Iranian news agency. "In Iran, insulting Islam is a very sensitive matter and if the movie is broadcasted it will arouse a wave of popular hate that will be directed towards any government that insults Islam.

Wilders calls his 10-minute film "a call to shake off the creeping tyranny of Islamicization, " and said it could air as early as this week on Dutch television.


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Wilders is a creep and a fascist, but he’s right about this.  How far is the West willing to go to give a terrorist veto over what we can and cannot do?  [Intercourse] Iran.

[1] Posted by Jeffersonian on 01-21-2008 at 05:05 PM • top

In Iran, insulting Islam is a very sensitive matter and if the movie is broadcasted it will arouse a wave of popular hate that will be directed towards any government that insults Islam.

I wonder how the Iranian masses would find out about the showing of this movie in the Netherlands.  Maybe Iranians all speak Dutch,  spend each day searching the Internet in search of Dutch films that insult Islam.  But somehow I kind of doubt it.  You don’t suppose that some interested parties in Iran would tell the masses just to inflame them, do you?  Naaahhhh.  That would never happen. 

carl

[2] Posted by carl on 01-21-2008 at 05:10 PM • top

That’s probably the worst thing to say to a Dutchman, if you’re trying to talk him out of something. 

Look, if he’s Reformed, make your case by creating an argument based on the integrity of Lord’s Day observance.  If otoh he’s a child of the liberal culture in Holland, then send him a gift basket full of MJ.

[3] Posted by Moot on 01-21-2008 at 10:37 PM • top

The article says he is an atheist.

[4] Posted by Deja Vu on 01-21-2008 at 10:53 PM • top

So tonight Moot is talking about a basket of MJ and Baby Blue is featuring a song about magic mushrooms. What is up with the Anglican orthodox?

[5] Posted by Deja Vu on 01-21-2008 at 10:55 PM • top

What is MJ?

[6] Posted by driver8 on 01-22-2008 at 12:10 AM • top

I’m guessing MJ -> “Mary Jane” -> marijuana??

[7] Posted by yohanelejos on 01-22-2008 at 05:08 AM • top

yohanelejos - Yup. 

Deja Vu - I’m going to play the ‘Legal’ card.  The substance is legal in Holland (at least, the last time I checked), provided it is consumed in what they call tea houses, or special businesses where you can do that on the premises.  So, though I was speaking somewhat tongue-in-cheek, I was not encouraging anyone to break the laws of the land.  wink

And frankly, in this situation, “not encouraging anyone to break the laws of the land,” is a principal that both nutty sides would do well to embrace.

[8] Posted by Moot on 01-22-2008 at 06:39 AM • top

Among others expressing curiosity, yohanelejos wrote

I’m guessing MJ -> “Mary Jane” -> marijuana??

Well, it could also be an abbreviation for mot juste, French for “exactly the right word or expression.”

Contra [3] Moot, that would, in my humble opinion, be the perfect thing for an Iranian official to say to a Dutchman. But, then again, I am probably the last person you want spreading oil on troubled waters—I would be prone to substitute napalm for oil in cases involving such governments such as that of the charming, polite and cultured Ahmadinejad. wink

Blessings and regards,
Martial Artist

[9] Posted by H. Potter (aka Martial Artist) on 01-22-2008 at 04:41 PM • top

...that would, in my humble opinion, be the perfect thing for an Iranian official to say to a Dutchman.

Yeah, but note my qualifying statement:  “if you’re trying to talk him out of something.”  For thousands of years, the Dutch haven’t bought into what would have been so obvious:  “Hey - you can’t live on that marshland !  And if you do, there will be dreadful consequences.  Better’d play it safe!” 

Iran rightly sees a bunch of hedonists.  But they’ve also failed to recognize a collective will that has staved off (mostly) the North Sea. 

Poor Iran.

[10] Posted by Moot on 01-23-2008 at 03:07 AM • top

[10] Moot,

Sorry that you didn’t catch my multiple attempts at irony (i.e., substitution of napalm for oil to calm troubled waters, comment about Ahmadinejad’s leadership, winkie), for which my apologies. That having been said, for what earthly reaason would I want to talk the Dutchmen (or Dutchwomen, either) out of showing the film.

Yes, the Dutch are hedonistic. Who made it the business of Iran to dictate to the Dutch (people, government, or corporations) what to show, or what not to show, on their televisions, movie screens or anywhere else for that matter? Not only have the Iranians failed to recognize the collective will of the Dutch people, as you so rightly point out, they have also failed to see that they have neither the authority nor the ability to dictate such terms to another country. Were it not for the requirements of the Gospel and the presence in Iran of a substantial number of good people who do not countenance the ravings of these lunatics, Iran would be an excellent candidate to be the subject of an international experiment in metaphorical time travel!<sup>†</sup>

Blessings and regards,
Martial Artist

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<sup>†</sup>—A (very thinly) veiled reference to the expression “bomb them back to the Stone Age.”

[11] Posted by H. Potter (aka Martial Artist) on 01-23-2008 at 10:05 AM • top

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