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Maury Johnston has now responded to my article Star Trip, in which I point out that Johnston, the author of two widely-publicized essays advocating the revisionist position, is also a longtime Wiccan priest.

For an apologia that purports to rest on inclusiveness and tolerance, it is heavy on prejudicial labels, name-calling and loaded phrases. While we try to limit our labels of the opposing side in this debate to "liberal/conservative," "revisionist/orthodox," or "reassessor/reappraiser," Mr. Johnston sees fit to label our side as "reactionary," "literalists," and the "obnoxious orthodox."

It is also a most unconvincing case that Mr. Johnston has left his Wiccan past behind, as the rest of this article will prove.

While Mr. Johnston insists he has left his Wiccan past, he also goes to great lengths to explain why it shouldn't matter what he once believed - or still believes.

The overwhelming evidence that Maury Johnston - "Shadwynn," as he is known in the Wiccan/pagan community - has not, as he claims, left paganism behind can be found in the numerous posts he has made in the Yahoo! Group called "AnamTuras."

There, he posted an essay - copyrighted 2001, 2005 - titled "To Be A Grailfriar." It is an explanation of what it means to follow his particular brand of Wicca - the "grail quest tradition":

The iconographic focus of the Grailfriar is the Cauldron of Wisdom, the Holy Cup of the Eucharist, and the Hallows of interior transformation sacred to Wiccan, Christian, and generic, esoteric seeker alike. In some small way, each of us wears invisibly the vestiges of the prophet's mantle, the vestment of the priest and the hooded cowl of the monk. We seek to see with the eyes of Jesus, to speak with the mouth of Sophia, and to listen with the compassionate ears of the Blessed Mother. We walk the Seer's Way, not fettered by the chains of tradition or religious parochialism. The Grailfriar lifts holy hands to rejoice in the Christian mystery of the Risen One at Easter, invokes the darksome presence of the Crone at the high Pagan sabbat of Samhain, and sometimes even infuses Matter with Spirit through the celebration of esoteric eucharists without any sense of spiritual inconsistency.

...

Grailfriars have sought to discover the roots of the Tree of Heaven in the soil of Earth's dampened, fecund darkness, and often pay the price in the hostility of those who are blind to the interrelationship between the heavenly and the chthonic, the transcendent and the immanent. We will be sneered at as deceived Christians, weird Wiccans, or barely tolerated as Christo-Pagans. But our primary responsiblity is to cultivate our relationship with the Beloved at all costs, and on all planes of perception; the Beloved who plays hide-and-seek with us as the Moon-goddess peeking through winter branches, the deep peace within a Buddhist shrine, the chant-haunted cloisters of monastic praise. The Grailfriar is a theological shape-shifter, seeking the one Truth hidden in a myraid of guises, and refusing to be dissuaded by the religious establishment's fear of esoteric exploration.

[emphasis mine]

In this post, he summarizes his religious beliefs:

For me, it has become increasingly difficult to be fenced in by any, one, particular brand of religion. In my early years, I was heavily involved in various forms of fundamentalist Christianity. As the years progressed and maturity brought deeper fissures of thought through my seeking heart, I became a pilgrim staying briefly in the attractive, beckoning sanctuaries of Lutheran, Catholic and Episcopal spirituality. Coming to grips with personal sexuality led me down the trail of the "gay church" (MCC) for a number of years. Finally, I summoned the courage to leave Christianity altogether, having been a Wiccan priest for 18 years. But Wicca can be too constricting with its unwritten code of "religious correctness" and a nascent theology which has far too many "shallows" for my comfort. So Christian is not an adequate label for me. Wicca is not an adequate label for me. I resonate with much of bhakti yoga and Krishna devotion, but do not wish to adapt a plethora of Hindu cultural trappings upon my essentially Western mystical outlook. I love the aesthetics of Buddhism; its serenity and emphasis on mindfulness, but cannot abide its lurking sense of cold, analytical, non-theistic pessimism. I am enchanted by the spiritual eroticism of the Sufi Way, ever seeking to be one with the Beloved, but have a block with the rigidity of Islam. Much of Gnosticism is appealing, but many of their sects got so lost in mythological fantasies that for me it obscured much of their essential wisdom....

[emphasis mine]

Jake and plenty of others have sneered that the real problem is that there are those of us who have the gall to point out Johnston's heavy involvement in paganism. There has been a lot of talk of motes and beams. But look at what Shadwynn himself wrote in this post from Thursday, Aug 25, 2005:

While I am thinking of it, I thought I would also share another New Testament passage relevant to the topic of judging others. The scripture in question consists of the last two verses in 1 Corinthians 5:11-13: "For what business do I have judging those who are without [the church]? AREN'T WE SUPPOSED TO BE JUDGING THOSE WHO ARE WITHIN [THE CHURCH]? But those who are without [the church] God judges."

First of all, I know this is from the pen of Paul, but whatever our opinions of some of his existential and time-bound pronouncements, he nevertheless possessed a lot of wisdom in some of his written thoughts. What I find fascinating is the fact that he encourages early Christians to continually exercise their faculty of judgment when it comes to the conduct, lifestyle and public demeanor of fellow Christians. This was simply common sense: he wanted Christians to display at least an internal consistency of faith and conduct so there would be no confusion as to what Christians practiced as the basic hallmarks of a life of appropriate piety.


Then he closes his post with this dynamite piece of advice:

So my advice to those who consider themselves Christians: Be terribly concerned about one in your midst who claims to speak as a mouthpiece of Christ, but whose vicious words contradict his claims. Use your judgment!

[all of Johnston/Shadwynn's posts to the group can be viewed here]

Sounder advice about being on one's guard could not be given, especially when he offers yet another description of himself from March 16, 2005:

I find that as I age in years and mature in spirit, I feel less affinity for any one, exclusive spiritual tradition. From an othodox, doctrinal stance, I am not a Christian. From a politically correct, popular Wiccan viewpoint, I am not truly a Pagan. I do not believe in any literal sense the creedal statements and dogmas of the Church; yet I have no problem embracing them as part of the Perennial Myth (ala Alan Watts). To me, concepts such as Incarnation, Passion, Resurrection, and Ascension are profound ways of conveying Truth, but if tomorrow they should find the bones of Jesus in an ossuary in a musty Jerusalem burial niche, it would in no way dampen my adherence to the archetypal significance of the Resurrection Story (unlike Paul, who felt that if his interpretation of Jesus' resurrection was wrong, all was doomed).

As far as Wicca is concerned, I have problems with its lack of scholarship, sloppy theology and often New Age naivete. That being said, I still find the celebratory Wheel of the Year far more satisfying than the liturgical calendar of the Church. But for the most part, too many Pagans seem to be simply environmental-oriented agnostics with a flair for the romance of ritual.

So here I am, relating very much to the figure of the Grail Hermit; not part of any one religious crowd, but deeply contemplative and aware of the importance to stay true to the guidance of Spirit. As much as I might want to, I simply cannot fit into any religious niche. I am put off by Christianity's smug sense of spiritual superiority; Paganism's shallow preoccupation with Nature while ignoring the need for inner transformation; Judaism's tribalism and increasing preoccupation with Middle East real estate as the focus of its religious reality; Islam's intolerance and lack of compassion; Hinduism's seeming ambivalence; Buddhism's predominantly non-theistic and pessimistic appraisal of life's purpose...need I go on? That is not to say that I find no value in these traditions; quite to the contrary. I relate more to the theology of the Bhagavid Gita than the Bible; I find Pure Land Buddhism to be almost like a trasplanted Christianity in Asian trappings, with beautiful emphasis on the graces of the Divine; I admire the pristine sense of transcendence found in the worship of Allah; I revel in the joys of bakti yoga and its personalized devotion to avatars of divinity; and the list goes on. In the last analysis, I can truthfully say that the only religious designations with which I feel comfortable would be a Pilgrim on the Way, a Seeker of the Spirit, a Poet of the elusive Presence.

[emphasis mine]

On December 22, 2004, Shadwynn offers up the poem "A Solstice Meditation," which contains these verses:

Our Goddess now arrives in wintry array,
the Queen of Holly
wreathed in darkened, prickly green;
Lady of Life-in-Death,
crowned with berries
blushed red from her Mystery's crimson flow.

Whispering through wind-riven pines,
she sings soft incantations of Evergreen,
blessing oak-fastened mistletoe
with the touch of Life that does not die.


LIGHTING OF THE YULE CANDLE

Tonight we light this candle
for the infant Solstice Sun;
one small flame to pierce the darkness;
a ray of hope,
a symbol of the Light within us all:
Light that can never be extinguished,
even by the longest Winter night;
Light that will grow into glory,
waxing strong despite the cold to come;
Light that dispels despair and resignation,
giving us a glimplse of golden days ahead.

Behold the Light that can never die,
reborn anew in the Solstice sky!

That's just the oldest of the posts that are available to a casual visitor to the "AnamTuras" Group. The most recent ones are from January and February of this year.

So it is impossible to believe Johnston's and Jake's claims that Johnston's days as an active, practicing pagan are well in the past. Indeed, it seems equally impossible to believe that Johnston is not, at this very moment, just as heavily involved in paganism as he ever was.

Jake then questions my "authority" in "demanding that I remove Maury's essays and disassociate myself from him," but nowhere did I demand any such thing. What I wrote was:

It is time for Louie Crew, Father Jake, Oasis, and the clergy of the Church of the Holy Comforter to tell us what they think of Mr. Johnston's 18-year association with Wicca - and as a priest, no less... not just a curious bystander.

...and:

...may we assume that they will take this opportunity to disavow themselves of Mr. Johnston's practice of Wicca, and to begin seriously to confront the influence of paganism among their fellow travellers?

Johnstons asks:

I have written a book on the Holy Grail and Goddess spirituality under the pen name of Shadwynn and I was a Wiccan priest for many years. And just exactly what does that prove? That I have a past? That I have varied religious interests? And the crime is...?

No one has accused Mr. Johnston of a crime. But the other thing he wants us to believe in his essay is that no one should be concerned in the least with his practice of paganism, even if he's continuing to do it:

Every seeker of the Holy has a history with God, a spiral of one's spirit ever reaching outward and upward into the spiritual universe in an attempt to see the Unseeable and touch the Lover who whispers to the stardust in their souls. Their feet often take them on pathways new, strange, and unfamiliar as they seek for traces of their Beloved in the varied sacred precincts of the world's religious impulse. Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Wiccan, Jew, Muslim, or Christian, the yearning for intimate union with divinity is the same. My pilgrimage has been no different from multitudes who have preceded me as they attempted to satisfy the inner longings of the pilgrim heart. I have searched through many forms of religious expression and come away with something valuable from each of them; and for that I am now hounded and harassed by the self-appointed inquisitors for Anglican orthodoxy.

In other words, we're all polytheist neo-pagans, it's just that some of us haven't gotten in touch with our inner Shadwynns yet.

Mr Johnston puts on a dramatic show, that's for sure. But no one is suggesting that he be hauled away and put in stocks, or a carrot strapped around his nose and paraded through the village. I am hopeful and prayerful that Mr. Johnston will - today - renounce his allegiance to paganism and his rejection of Christianity. I want him to come into the fold. I don't want to "run him out of Christianity" any more than I want to run my family and closest friends out. The question has never been whether I want Maury Johnston as a Christian brother, and the implication otherwise by Jake, Wilkins, et al, - even Johnston himself - is a straw man argument that exemplifies the dark motives they are trying to smear me and other conservatives with.

But there can be no doubt - no matter how hard Father Jake and others pound the pulpit - that Maury Johnston is, currently, an active pagan who articulated his outright rejection of Christianity as recently as October of 2005, and who was posting enthusiastic recommendations of pagan books and practices as late as February of 2006.

One thing that is conspicuously absent from Mr. Johnston's essay is any detail at all regarding his leaving the Wiccan faith.

In his postings everywhere else, he continually reminds us that he was a Wiccan priest for 18 years, but he gives no indication of the year he left the Wiccan priesthood.

Surely, during his 18 years as a Wiccan priest, he had some kind of proof that he was such a thing. A record of a ceremony, a piece of parchment, a medallion or a pin? Is there likewise proof of his leaving the Wiccan priesthood? A resignation letter, or even a statement on an Internet message board to that effect?

No such thing has been offered, neither in Johnston's essay at Father Jake's, nor on the numerous recent posts at the Yahoo! group. One would assume that if Mr. Johnston wanted to make a convincing case of his rejection of Wicca, he would offer some evidence with even a fraction of the enthusiasm with which he claimed his association. My strong suspicion - supported by the evidence I've listed above - leads me to believe there is no such evidence, because there is no reason for it to exist. Maury Johnston remains committed to a Wicca/pagan/neo-pagan spirituality, even as he is held up as a leading voice by the Episcopal fringe left.

So the question remains, as it has been since the original article was posted on Tuesday, is what the Episcopal left intends to do about the disturbing pattern of finding pagans, neo-pagans, Wiccans, Druids, and other practicioners of the occult among their fellow travelers.

Throughout this debate in the Episcopal Church, conservatives have assumed that the opposition wishes to continue worshipping Jesus Christ as the only Son of God, and the author of our Salvation; with the exception that they also want to do other things - ordain non-celibate homosexuals, bless same-sex unions - with which we strongly disagree. But now, as more examples emerge of Episcopal clerics and prominent lay activists leading double lives as pagan priests, it is a fair question to ask if those on the fringe left are in fact dealing from the top of the deck.

We have always assumed that Biblical revisionism was a means to an end, an end that encompasses full inclusion of homosexuals in every aspect of the church. But now we have more than good reason to wonder: Does the revisionist endgame in fact go far beyond gay inclusion, to include the elimination of Jesus Christ as the only Son of God; as the Way, the Truth and the Life?

Does the agenda of the fringe left involve the introduction of pagan beliefs, creeds, and rituals into this Christian church? If so, then debating the godliness of homosexual behavior really is waste of all our time, because the real elephant in the room is not homosexuals as bishops or gay marriage as a sacrament, but the very nature of Christ in the Episcopal Church, and why more than a few of the opposition seem all too ready to throw Him overboard, or, at best, crowd His boat with a long list of other "gods" and "goddesses."

It's one thing if we are talking about "reconciliation" and "unity" with people with whom we have a common understanding of who Christ is and why He was here. But it is another thing entirely to learn that among the ranks of those insisting the hardest that we should remain in this "listening process," are people who categorically reject Christianity and embrace all manner of paganism and witchcraft.

My challenge to Father Jake, Louie Crew, Oasis, and Holy Comforter remains, and is redoubled: Disavow pagans as spokesmen for your case. At least have the respect for your opposition to send Christians to speak for you. Do not equivocate on Jesus Christ. If an honest debate is what you want, then you owe your opposition - and the greater church - nothing less.
Comments:

What are we to make of an ECUSAn Priest who proclaims his “ecclecticism, eccentricity” and whose masthead accounces “Snake Oil for sale”?  One who has the gall to both defend paganism in the Christian church, while calling Greg “the Grand Inquisitor” and Stand Firm on a “Witch Hunt”.

Fr. Jake is not a priest—he’s a clown, on a mission to make the church look foolish.  And doing a damn fine job of it, from where I sit.

[1] Posted by Marty the Baptist on 04-09-2006 at 06:45 AM • top

There’s plenty to debate on the substance of the matter without resorting to name-calling.

[2] Posted by Greg Griffith on 04-09-2006 at 07:37 AM • top

At least we can thank Shadwynn for coining a wonderful euphemism for apostasy as practiced by the ECUSA revisionists: “theological elasticity.” Loosely translated it means:  No one’s “belief system” is too bizarre or blasphemous to find a home in ECUSA.

[3] Posted by William R. Hurt on 04-09-2006 at 11:33 AM • top

Greg, not name-calling, just describing Jake’s schtick.  Who was it that invented the Clown Eucharist anyway? Probably a proudly ecclectic and eccentric snake oil salesman…

[4] Posted by Marty the Baptist on 04-09-2006 at 11:54 AM • top

“...conservatives have assumed that the opposition wishes to continue worshipping Jesus Christ as the only Son of God, and the author of our Salvation...”

I can safely make that assumption with my moderate friends in ECUSA, but certainly not with others who by their own statements view Jesus not as the Son of God but as a prophet, not the sole means to Salvation but as just one of many teachers pointing toward God.

[5] Posted by Going Home on 04-09-2006 at 01:16 PM • top

It is becoming clearer to me.  MJ relates his “journey” in and out of all sorts of religions.  “But Wicca can be too constricting with its unwritten code of “religious correctness” and a nascent theology which has far too many “shallows” for my comfort.” He just doesn’t want to have any system of religion that restricts his autonomy to “be as God and to know good and evil.” Everyting is really fundamentalism to him!  Why would anyone want to have him in any leadership position?  He even forms his own “Jesus” to follow.  Like the troubled sea, he needs to find the real Christ and be established in Him.  May the Lord open his blinded and confused eyes.

[6] Posted by PROPHET MICAIAH on 04-09-2006 at 02:57 PM • top

Prophet, Mr. Johnston, who describes himself as a theological shape-shifter, does indeed have his own ‘Jesus.’ The ‘Jesus’ of Mauryism is himself elastic, taking whatever shape Maury wants. 
This is contrary to scripture--Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and for ever (Heb 13:8).  This faith has the outward form of godliness (2 Tim 3:5), but is not the faith once delivered.  It doesn’t proclaim the same message that was proclaimed from the beginning and is still being proclaimed around the world. 
Mr. Johnston uses contradictory and mutually exclusive terms like “post-Christian” and “Christocentric” to describe his faith.  I feel real compassion for him because I think it would be hard to find inner peace in the midst of such raging ambivalence. 
The Jesus of the faith delivered does indeed see his hungry heart.  The Jesus of the faith delivered is walking toward him through the raging storm, with His hand outstretched.  If only Mr. Johnston could recognize Him amidst all the other ‘Jesuses.’I pray that someone with a clear spiritual understanding will indeed lead Mr. Johnston to Him for whom Mr. Johnston has been searching all his life.  After such a deep involvement with the occult, it would be no casual undertaking, but Mr. Johnston’s hungry heart and unquestioned courage offer that hope.

[7] Posted by Jill Woodliff on 04-09-2006 at 04:13 PM • top

The one thing that could have helped in this whole situation is a good dose of humility.

Father Jake (which is the nom de web of New Jersey priest Terry Martin) posted Mr. Johnston’s essays.  Say what you will about the essays: they are clever and well-written.  They are also more scathing and prideful than anything David Virtue can ever hope to write.

When Johnston called Akinola the “African Anti-Christ”, I had to say whoa!  Who is this guy?  Thanks to Google we got our answers to that question.  The irony of a long-time Wiccan priest calling an ArchBishop an “Anti-Christ” is a bit too much!

And by the way, the Melnyk comparison only goes so far, because Johnston isn’t clergy (at least Christian Clergy).  However, when Fr. Jake/Fr. Terry posts Johnston’s bold essays as something Episcopalians need to consider, it is natural to wonder where the author is coming from.  The only information we got was that he is a layman at Holy Comforter Church in Richmond.

Johnston obnoxiously points out all the “theological errors” in others, without admitting any of his own.  Of course, he doesn’t think he has any theological errors and neither does Fr. Jake/Fr. Terry.  And that kind of illustrates a difference between reasserters and reappraisers.  For reappraisers, the only theological error one can have is questioning the morality of homosexual acts.  To reasserters, beliefs matter, the creeds matter, docterine matters.  These are two different churches.

I pray that some good can come out of this.

Peace.

[8] Posted by DietofWorms on 04-10-2006 at 07:57 AM • top

Exellent work, Greg.  I was particularly amused by the conclusion of Johnston’s article, comparing you to Saul of Tarsus and himself to St. Stephen.  It reminded me of other occasions when revisionists have spoken pridefully of their own “prophetic” vision and agenda.  Once upon a time, an iota of self-doubt was a hallmark of liberalism and, indeed, of Episcopalianism.  People who consider themselves prophets and martyrs have abandoned both great traditions.

And thank you, Jill, for your prayerful comment, which stands in such stark contrast to Johnston’s bile-filled rant against his “Episcoplian enemies.” Their anger is never far from the surface, but God’s saving Grace is indeed near at hand.

[9] Posted by Wilson on 04-10-2006 at 10:10 AM • top

Johnston is willing to buy bits and pieces of all of the following (at least):  Christianity, Buddhism, Hindu, Krishna, Sufi Islam, Wicca and Gnosticism.  But, he won’t buy any of them “whole hog.”

Fine.  That is his business.  But, by rejecting the authoritative orthodox theology and tenents of all of the above, and creating his own cafeteria style religion, he now follows the gospel of Johnston, not the Gospel of Christ.  It is a religion that, because it is not full of anything, it is empty of everything.

While I don’t know why anyone would take his opinions seriously (as opposed to any one of the ancient authorities), there is a place for people like Johnston to spout forth their opinions on such matters.  It’s called Unitarian Universalism, and they have churches all over the country.  He can explore the options of the cafeteria there all he wants—and probably set up one of his own for that matter—and they won’t care.

That’s what he is, a Unitarian.  When that moniker fits so nicely, why does he want to call himself a Christian.  And, why did he decide he wanted to call himself a Christian when that moniker makes no more sense than Buddhist or Muslim or any of the others.

The reason is simple.  Christ is the Way, the Truth, the Life.  The spirits that are leading Johnston through the cafeteria want to hurt Jesus and fool the world into believing a lie.  Unitarianism, on its own, is not a real threat to the Christian Church.  Unitarians in our midst however . . . well that is following the design of a spirit that knows what it is doing.  And, Johnston is its unwitting pawn.  God help him to open his eyes to Your Divine Truth and Wisdom.

[10] Posted by Eddie Swain on 04-10-2006 at 01:27 PM • top

OK, so we have a number of dabblers in Wicca among both our promenent laity and clergy.  Clearly some are not just after naughty thrills in the woods, and take the Wicca view of creation quite seriously.

It’s all very well to go on and on about how this is incompatible with Christian belief, but we know that already.  The problem is what to do about it; what can we learn from this unfortunate situation once we recover from being thoroughly scandalized.  Here’s one of the comments I left over on Fr Jake’s blog:

There is a rather disquieting and thought-provoking post from an Episcopal mailing list back in 2000 at http://listserv.episcopalian.org/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0005d&L=news&D=1&T=0&P=431.  The poster suggests that Wiccan spirituality is a satisfying supplement (or substitute; I’m not sure precisely what she’s advocating) to orthodox Christianity, which she finds dry, narrowminded, etc. etc. (all the usual).

Now, chacun à son goût, of course, and as good Americans we all strongly believe that everyone has a basic human right to tramp out their own particular road to Hell, but if our teaching of the Gospel has left this sort of unsatisfied hunger for transcendence and spiritual excitement, perhaps we should have our teachers concentrate more on the works of C.S. Lewis and Chesterton’s joyful Orthodoxy than on whatever the current hot psychotherapy self-help fad is.

The Christian view of God and His creation is wide, deep, and immensely, satisfyingly thick (to use Lewis’ term).  Why are we not communicating this effectively?

[11] Posted by Craig Goodrich on 04-10-2006 at 05:03 PM • top

From Bishop Michael Ingham of New Westminster:

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Ingham will need all the golf he can get in the coming years and beyond—because he believes there’s another giant controversy, beyond homosexuality, coming soon within Anglicanism.

It will be over the place of other faiths and the “absoluteness” of Christianity, he says. Ingham has already got a taste of the conflict after writing Mansions of the Spirit, which applauds people who are good Buddhists, Muslims and Jews.

“A Christian is one who believes Jesus Christ to be the way, the truth and the life. This is not to say there are no others,” he says. “This issue will be the next major battleground.”

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http://aacblog.classicalanglican.net/archives/000016.html

[12] Posted by jamesw on 04-10-2006 at 06:26 PM • top

Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Ingram answered, “[I dig what you’re sayin man, but] this is not to say there are no others”

One of em is lying…

[13] Posted by Marty the Baptist on 04-10-2006 at 08:19 PM • top

I know I am coming in late to this party. Actually, I think I read Greg’s reply to Maury Johnton’s whiny screed, posted on Fr. Apostasy’s web howl, when Greg first posted it.

Let’s quit beating around the bush here and state facts. Johnston is a heretic, plain and simple. And no, I am not advocating that we burn him at the stake. Like Jill Woodliff above, I believe we should pray for God’s grace to touch and soften the hearts of all heretics - including Fr. Jake/Fr. Terry, and the leadership of the Episcopal Church.

I just think it is time to drop this pretense of revisionist/orthodox; reappraiser/reasserter; or liberal/conservative and be plain - it is a case of heretic vs believer. Why can we not at least have the minimal honesty to speak of the situation as it is, instead of trying not to offend anyone?  That serves no usefukl purpose.

[14] Posted by Allen Lewis on 04-25-2006 at 12:01 PM • top

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