Be loving in everything you do." - I Corinthians 16:13-14
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"Be on your guard. Stand firm in the faith. Be brave. Be strong. Be loving in everything you do." - I Corinthians 16:13-14 |
Conrad also obtained a restraining order Wednesday against her partner, saying Peterson punched a hole in the wall during an argument and threatened to harm a friend.
"All I want to say is that the civil union was a big source of pride for me, and now it's not," Peterson said.
"...and sin when it is finished bringeth forth death." James 1:15
# Posted by: Prophet Micaiah at December 15, 2005 10:54 PMSadly, I could say the same thing about heterosexual marriage.
My prediction is that the same-sex unions will reach a higher level of "breakups" than heterosexual marriage -- but we shouldn't be all that proud of that stat.
We ought to have held the line on adultery, pre-marital sexual activity, and no-fault divorces long, long, long ago. Ironically, the Episcopal church had the most difficult divorce discipline of any denomination until we "modernized" it in 1973.
# Posted by: Sarah at December 16, 2005 07:46 AMWhat, a woman committed an act of domestic violence??? Preposterous!
/snark
# Posted by: Marty at December 16, 2005 04:10 PMIn my earlier years I did some canoeing with a women's group that drew a high number of Lesbians. One woman in particular told me about the little known and well kept secret of the high level of violence in many Lesbian relationships.
I am sadened by the almost gleeful tone some take when homosexual relationships break up. I hope we all can feel compassion over someone elses pain, no matter how it comes about or what sin is involved. It is often through brokenness that we come to reach out to God for healing.
# Posted by: Pam C. at December 16, 2005 06:37 PMPam,
There's no glee among us about this breakup. One of the things homosexuals are always telling us is that the reason for their characteristically brief relationships is precisely that they're not allowed to have official unions. "Give us 'real' marriage," they say, "and we'll show you we can be just as stable - even more so! - than heterosexuals!" This is simply the latest proof that that's false.
To the extent there's something gleeful in our tone, it's only because we don't feel that this is something God has joined together.
# Posted by: Greg at December 16, 2005 08:17 PMGleeful tone---no, but there should be anger even rage that these poor people are trapped in the sin of sodomy and the one earthly institution, the Church, that should offer the one remedy of true repentance, forgiveness, and grace has gone over to the dark side and tells them they are blessed and should celebrate their sin and even be a bishop! When this all begins to unravel and lead to even more misery the church has nothing but pious platitudes, god-talk, a gutted gospel, and a stamp of approval of their deadly sin. As the Apostle Paul says, "...the wrath of God is revealed from heaven..." I just had to touch lightly on this subject. Kyrie Eleison
# Posted by: Prophet Micaiah at December 16, 2005 09:58 PMWell, back to the gay singles bar to prospect for another lifelong committed relationship.
NEXT: Gay "Custody Of The Children" battles. The War of The Rosies? Stay tuned.
Merry CHRISTmas
the snarkster
Glee, no. But I do confess a little "toldjaso" urge.
# Posted by: Gulfstream at December 17, 2005 08:01 PMHi all. Apropos of nothing, the Diocese of Newark, which gave us both John Spong and Louie Crew, will disappear from the map in our lifetimes. According to news reports this most liberal of all Episcopal dioceses,
has lost nearly 24,000 congregants, or 46 percent of its membership, since 1972. That's nearly three times the average decline in the Episcopal Church nationwide, the report said.
Maybe they can bolster their numbers by starting GLBT divorcee outreach.
This is in response to the Lesbian relationship that ended. As a gay man, I do feel compassion for the two women who's bond is now broken by violence. NO WOMAN SHOULD EVER HAVE TO TAKE A BEATING FROM ANYONE. That being said, it is difficult for most LGTB relationships to blossom, even in the wake of all the freedoms we are now receiving. We as LGBT people have been taught from birth to hide what we are, and who we love. Therefore, it would be impossible for straight men and women to all of a sudden expect us to function at the level of heterosexual marraiges. We have not had all the practice that you have had. It takes time for us to get upto that level. When the african americans where released from slavery, it would have been foolish to expect them to come in from out of the fields and start functioning as well as their white counterparts that had nice homes and educated children. It is taking a while for them to get there, with each small victory they are closer to living on the same plane as White people. It is going to take us time to work out where we fit into a life out of the shadows, and in the light. It would be easier on us, and the general public, if we were lent a hand, a kind heart, and some understanding.
I am speaking from my own heart, and not the heart of every LGTB person, just as no one single Episcipalian could speak for Episcipalians from around the world. Thanks for reading.
Michael.
:-)
The same Bible that clearly addresses the sinfulness of sexual immorality, including same sex relationships, also commands us to love each other in spite of our sin (whatever it may be). It also tells us we are all guilty of immorality. So we love each other, pray for each other and provide material help. But if a person loves someone as prescribed by Holy Scripture she or he cannot lend a hand to support the very conduct that God has told us is distructive.
I agree with you that the break up of this relationship doesnt prove much. The heterosexual divorce rate is a scandal among church members, the acceptance of divorce in cases other than abandonment, infidelity or abuse (on the part of the other party) was a compromise that shackled the church on family issues.
# Posted by: Barnabas at December 21, 2005 11:09 AMSeems to me the relationship was damned from the start by the falicy of the premise. There is no there there. The notion that same-sex couples can form "marriages" is so contrary to common sense that we should laugh loudly, and often. They can't produce children by normal means, therefore they are not deserving of the protection we afford our child producing marriages. That's what marriage is all about, folks. Get used to it.
# Posted by: Gulfstream at December 23, 2005 09:09 PM